what are barack obama's flaws?

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seriously that's the funniest shit i've read in a minute

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Before joining the newspaper, she was a senior adviser for the Republican National Committee and was appointed a public affairs director in the Department of Health and Human Services by President Bush.

fifth from the b (The Reverend), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Right now Obama is holding his cards so tightly to his vest it would be about impossible to discern any of his intentions once elected, apart from those carefully-shaped and electorally-advantageous ones which are officially embalmed in his stump speech soundbites. Very few of those will survive contact with political reality.

We won't see him really shake loose from this mode until after Nov. 4. I wonder if he'll ever come to a point in his presidency where he can cut loose and start freewheeling a bit. Or if that is contrary to his nature.

Aimless, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Is that a paraphrase from a post on The Corner?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

If so, then it was transmitted to my brain via the luminiferous ether, because I don't read The Corner.

This is simply my impression of the last month and a half since the Republican convention. This stage of the election is all about caution if you're the clear front runner and the undecided vote is not especially large. The election is his to win or lose. He's playing not to lose. Not a very astonishing choice, really.

As for political reality, adding an extra trillion dollars in federal debt in the past 50 days has left Obama very little wiggle room for attaining his platform.

As for 'his nature', he strikes me as quite circumspect and cautious by nature. He speaks in bold strokes, but seems to act with containment. I could be wrong. He'll no doubt grow and change in the job.

Aimless, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:46 (fifteen years ago) link

No president in my lifetime has grown in the job, except malevolently.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe you're the problem.

Kerm, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

You never know.

Not saying that O can't do it, but FISA and "I love markets" are not encouraging signs.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

didn't tell liar/homicidal fuckup Colin Powell to shove his endorsement

Dr Morbius, Monday, 20 October 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

seems intent on winning election, within grasp with fortnight to go.

besides - not that he shouldn't - but has he even responded yet? i've heard him mention it in a speech, but nothing else.

schlump, Monday, 20 October 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, with supporters like these....

"On that Saturday 10,000 households in Scranton were canvassed for Obama and another 5,000 canvassed on Sunday. I realized that we did just what the "Chicago Machine" would do. I had seen it often enough in my youth: the Ward Boss, the Precinct Captains, and the Block Captains...caring and knowledge of the individual affairs of each citizen goes with the system...The audacity of it: to build a nationwide machine based on the Chicago Machine. Now nobody groan - the Chicago Machine WORKS. We have seen the birth of a huge, wonderful Machine, the new Dem Machine, which will carry us all forward into an Age of Mutuality."
-- Martha Miller

"Being a liberal and a young upstart, I always questioned things - especially my superiors. Over the last month I have stopped this habit...By and by, the Mother Brain has earned my respect. Instead, I take comfort knowing that my time is not taken for granted; my superiors use me efficiently and intelligently. To me, that matters more than you know."
-- Ryan Kushner

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/beverly-davis/otb-campaign-journals-oba_b_135285.html

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I realized that we did just what the "Chicago Machine" would do.

holy shit.

Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse (kenan), Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

build a nationwide machine based on the Chicago Machine

holy shit.

Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse (kenan), Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

the Chicago Machine WORKS

christ on a cracker.

Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse (kenan), Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, a mirrorworld anti-Chicago Machine where there's no neighbourhood coercion or turkeys, yeah?

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I think you get the option to be wired into the Machine OR Mother Brain.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

"the new Dem Machine, which will carry us all forward into an Age of Mutuality."

Somewhere, Huxley laughs?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost to suzy: or graft, bribery, extortion, racism, waste, arrogant flaunting of all of the above, and on, and on, and on...

Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse (kenan), Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

The other day my mom started foaming about La Machine Chicago - and tying O to same - based on living there for one year only. Try to argue with her and she's all OH YEAH, I BEEN TO HYDE PARK - IN '67.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 23 October 2008 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

(What makes that photo is the banner in the distance reading "HELLO DEMOCRATS!")

Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse (kenan), Thursday, 23 October 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

It's possible that he's a little TOO awesome ...

polyphonic, Thursday, 23 October 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

haha Dr. Morbius you should e-mail John Dean, tell him you found the liberal authoritarians finally, they're no longer a theory.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 23 October 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

were they ever just a theory?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I think they're a whole corner of that ideology graph thingy, actuellement.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I think that well-known ideology graph thing (http://www.politicalcompass.org/index) is pretty clearly a libertarian indoctrination tool.
There's a whole body of literature surrounding the concept of authoritarianism, and as far as I know to align libertarianism as its polar opposite strongly misrepresents authoritarianism.

Dan I., Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

don't confuse Political Compass for the World's Smallest Political Quiz. The former makes conservatives foam at the mouth because it (generally) pegs them as authoritarians, and libertarians foam because its emphasis on value questions highlights their proximity to conservatives.

sad man in him room (milo z), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

(but the idea of a 2-axis or 3-axis ideology guide is generally pretty stupid as a rule)

sad man in him room (milo z), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

ah, okay, thanks!

Dan I., Friday, 24 October 2008 02:09 (fifteen years ago) link

to align libertarianism as its polar opposite strongly misrepresents authoritarianism

Who did this? we're talking about LIBERAL authoritarians. the Daleys, Humphrey, all the Dem senators not named Feingold, etc.

You just KNOW those two Obama Youth robots quoted on HuffPost are going to cluck their tongues at anyone who protests President Bam governing (and bombing) from the "center." "He has to do this to get re-elected!"

Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

you are truly a seer

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

despite yr condescension i think most of us are pretty aware around these parts that obama will not be ushering in a totally post-partisan age. yes, people will be there to cheerlead whatever he does. i dont see why u think thats news to anyone.

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

uh, we are IN a postpartisan age, that's the problem.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

wtf are you talking about never mind

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

morbs/feingold 08

BIG HOOS was a communisteen orgadriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

but morbs like 48.5% of this country maintains a polar opposite view than you (and the other 48.5% or so) on practically every single issue there is. how do you propose anything ever getting done? short of the blue coastal states seceding from Jesusland?

p.s. i think it's a little early to take Barry to task for countries he hasn't bombed yet.

flyover statesman (will), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

he's way smarter, more likable, and likely more decent than we've had in decades. give him a shot.

flyover statesman (will), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ otm

Wanting the moon is understandable, but is no reason to turn down the offer of a few genuine moon rocks.

Aimless, Friday, 24 October 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I am giving him a shot. But I think liberal reforms have been deemed impractical by the entire ruling class since at least 1980. Time will tell if the New Depression shifts the spectrum.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=populism_without_pitchforks

He's apparently a "communitarian populist!" Thanks, intellectually lazy "progressive" JACKASS. Perhaps you would consider investing in a DICTIONARY before you become a WRITER.

"Communitarian Populism!!" You know, how Hitler rolled!! Jesus Christ. Obama's greatest flaw really is having supporters like these.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 October 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

and yes I already feel guilty for linking that piece and possibly causing other people to try and read it

El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 October 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

no its cool i saw the populism without pitchforks in the url before i clicked

some sort of sweetpea New Deal (Lamp), Sunday, 26 October 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Him being the antichrist could be a problem, apparently.

http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/images/Picture%205-166.jpg

(lol)

StanM, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Topeka KS 66604

imperial management trainee (latebloomer), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL at one medieval thought accusing something incredibly dense like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arminianism of being satanistic.

StanM, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Amen.

ℵℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜ℘! (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

amen xp!

8 HOOS Dog (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll amen if the screed writer can learn to spell 'worshipped'. HAHA.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Monday, 27 October 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

the most impressively irritating thing in the world is the font used by Phelps' propaganda posters

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Monday, 27 October 2008 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link


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