What is the darkest/hardest music you like?

become lycanthrope, and you shall see into the dark as if it was a new breed of air for you cancerous lung.

fear not the darkness, better yet fear but embrace the darkness. and the hardness. embrace it.

conner Djifrens

I swear that some out there jazz wigs people out more than crazed metal. I used to play some out there Sun Ra and it would totally freak out a roommate I had. Frankie Teardrop by Suicide also would freakout a room mate I had.

I don't get deep into the real barky metal, but I listen to plenty of old punk. I think the most intense and dark stuff that I like is really early Swans and Through Silver in Blood by Neurosis. I like em both, but I have to be in the mood.

Through Silver in Blood by Neurosis

^^^

XP: What's even funnier about Gnaw Their Tongues is that Maurice also plays in the band fronted by his younger sister, which is an indiepop-band in the style of The Breeders!

"... nothing we could do, we can't, we can't separate ourselves from our own people. (pause, children crying in background) ... For twenty years laying in some old rotten nursing home ... (pause) ... taken us through all these anguished years. They took us and put us in chains and that's nothing. ... (stuttering) ... there's no comparison to that, to this. They've robbed us of our land, and they've taken us and driven us until we tried to find ourselves ... we tried to find a new beginning, but it's too late. You can't separate yourself from your brother and your sister. No way I'm gonna do it. I refuse. I don't know who fired the shot, I don't know who killed the Congressman. But as far as I'm concerned, I killed him. You understand what I'm saying? I killed him. He had no business coming. I told him not to come. ... (long pause) ... die with respect, die with a degree of dignity. Lay down your life with dignity. Don't lay down with tears and agony. It's nothing to death, just like Max said. It's just stepping over into another plane. Don't, don't be this way. Stop this hysterics... This is not the way for people who are socialistic Communists to die ... no way for us to die. We must die with some dignity ..."

So is this music? And, as the thread title says, do you like it? I've heard it and find it a bit snide. Without redeeming features even perhaps. A bit lame as well - comparing this to a TG album is a bit like comparing Faces Of Death to The King Of Death. For starters it's not a field recording, is it? But whatever helps you justify owning it, I suppose . . . I'm not having that much of a go either because some of the subject matter dealt with on some of the music I like, leaves a lot to be desired really. It's an arbitrary line to draw but my line's drawn before recordings of people committing suicide.

Current dark listening: Admiral Angry, Gnaw, SunnO))) (Black One), Khanate (Things Viral), TG (Third Annual Report), Burial Hex, Switchblade (ST 2009)

XP: What's even funnier about Gnaw Their Tongues is that Maurice also plays in the band fronted by his younger sister, which is an indiepop-band in the style of The Breeders!

― Marty Innerlogic, Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:05 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lawl I love the shit out of this guy and didn't know that, nice - he used to make jungle/breakcore type stuff as well

there is an early skepticism ep called 'ethere' that is pretty dark in the depressing sense. i don't actually find it depressing at all, but it probably meets the definition for a lot of people.

The thrashier, more melodic end of Death Metal - Carcass, Death, Entombed etc

slipknot

Though I do own Scum by Napalm Death. That's pretty fucking unpleasant sounding.

this is the cuetest thread i ever did start

slipknot

― ☞ ☹ (markers)

lol @ u

Napalm Death is totally mainstream now. I go to houses where people have a lot of money and they have expensive tattoos and Napalm Death on their shelf like a fashion accessory! Totally goes with wine now.

That's why I started buying records by retarded children and the like, we need to find new levels of discomfort!

http://i39.tinypic.com/24g7rm0.jpg

lol @ u

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor)

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all markers teenage faves are coming out now

Avril's great

current 93 stuff always seems like crazy dark like i can't even listen to it but i like it in theory

I like Current 93 they don't really have talent just great ideas, major turnoff for people who think they know what talent is.

i dont listen to hard or dark music

There is plenty of dark / hard funk and r + b. "Dark" isn't just for whitey.

I used to play any of these records whenever I had parties at my house and it was getting too late.

Aksak Maboul - Un peu de l'âme des bandits
Residents - Duck Stab
Roger Payne - Songs of the Humpback Whale
Lamborghini Crystal - Dial: 747 Creepozoid
Luasa Raelon - Automatic Satan
Luasa Raelon - Season of the Witch

Nurse With Wound / Whitehouse - The 150 Murderous Passions

Yah I guess Wolf Eyes or Pan Sonic or something like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vId0KOlY6V8

dunno if i mentioned it on this thread already, but i found this alb really pretty upsetting:

http://terrornoiseaudio.blogspot.com/2009/01/runzelstirn-gurgelstck-asshole-snail.html?zx=f79e409a8a5ca892

not too interested in clicking on a link that includes the phrase asshole snail in it

links to a wilco bootleg, go for it

miles davis - black beauty: live at filmore west

deep n hard psychofunk

xp: ow my eyes.

i know i've listened to asshole / snail dilemma but i can't remember it! dark n hard is techno / dub for me these days, something with a lot of structure.

metal if i listened to any

I like Current 93 they don't really have talent just great ideas, major turnoff for people who think they know what talent is.

o_O ??

links to a wilco bootleg, go for it

― Ward Fowler, Monday, September 20, 2010 2:17 PM

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New Order - Sunrise is as hard as i can handle.

bleakest album:

Peter Sotos "Buyer's Market"

it's a collage/cut-up of personal, first hand testimony sourced from mainstream TV, radio and documentaries in which victims of abuse talk about being sexually molested, raped, exploited; prostitutes describe violent and awful experiences; crying children narrate their own sexual abuse; and family members sob about the torture and murder of their loved ones.

what makes it especially disturbing is the way that the collation/editing/presentation of it seems to conjure up the question of whether or not it is used by Peter Sotos to get off on these descriptions of violence and cruelty, and in order to work that out, your own imagination gets fired up with "would this thing turn me on if I was some kind of pedophile creep?", and *that very structure of vicarious participation* is, I think, what the record is supposed to be about- the "Buyer's Market" is the mainstream media feeding frenzy for authenticity/realness, hypocritically tsk-tsk-ing about the very atrocities it serves up

and yet (and here's the second twist) the claim that this record is about media seems like a convenient pseudo-intellectual / falsely "critical" fig-leaf to cover up a pretty basic and super fucked up enjoyment in other people describing pretty unimaginably horrific experiences.

So, i would say, hands down, this is the darkest/hardest-to-listen-to record I own.

You feel disgusted with yourself after you listen to it, like you need a shower or something.

rammstein

oh, just noticed that thread title is "music you like", not "record you own"

diff question.

I'd say the darkest *music* would be:

Brainbombs "Urge to Kill"
Sutcliffe Jugend "When Pornography Is No Longer Enough"

which take the Sotos-style scenarios of rape, murder, molestation, kidnapping and abuse and set them to heavy post-Stooges psych rock (Brianbombs) and Whitehouse-style power electronics (Sutcliffe Juged) respectively. They are both *great* as completely demanding, powerful, un-ignorable musical experiences. and yet also beg a lot of the same questions of intent / moral complicity / false-critique that the Sotos does, while actually being, you know, "music".

I would like to say something obscure and hip but realistically it's just Slayer.

hahahaha thank god you've allowed me to retract that rather stupid joke - would listen to those records! my favourite foetus song is narrated from a paedophile's POV - sometimes this stuff is highly compelling psychological engagement rather than exploitative trash

xp

my actual answer to this question? tough - would probably say something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf0qaIzaYDc

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkh2W0Le4Mo

^^^^^^^so, so, so, so, so, so good

ARGH here's a version that DOESN'T chop off the last 30 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBHnJNEbNZw

Xasthur can play too but I'm not linking any of his stuff tonight.

Carcass, Esoteric, Harvey Milk, dälek, Nattens madrigal

ok I really like three of those and would probably dig the other two so yeah that post can be added to my own tentative list

dälek is probably my favourite discovery of 2010 and their stuff kills like little else...esoteric's last album was a terrifying, overwhelming blinder, nattens madrigal is fury on tape

Harvey Milk are probably mine too.