In A Similarly Silent Way

Paul Schütze - Apart (disc 1) (electronic / microtonal take, but definitely chasing 'Shhh / Peaceful" - his later band 'Phantom City' was more about 70's Miles) - http://www.furious.com/PERFECT/schutze1.html
Brian Eno - "Iced World" (I wish The Drop had just been a 60 minute version of this track)

isn't that somewhat closer to ambient er...Eno than jazz? Fripp & Eno, say?

(christ, that jambient post has made me almost physically ill--just imagining the horror, the horror. *shivers*)

xxxp

i have a record with Tony Allen and Doctor L called Psycho on Da Bus that definitely reminds me of IASW, but with an afrofunk edge.

http://www.myspace.com/doctorlmind

http://www.last.fm/music/Doctor+L,+Tony+Allen,+Jean+Phi/Psycho+On+Da+Bus

definitely listen to K.I.S Compatible in the lastfm flash player (might be a bit more mellow bitches brew, but still has those sounds)

Bohren Und Der Club Of Gore maybe? Especially Geisterfaust.

Listening to Bennie Maupin's Jewel In The Lotus from 1974 -- definitely has a bit of the IASW vibe. Hancock's on this one too, naturally. Either way, wow, beautiful record! GET IT.

I would say that each of those records by the Mwandishi members are similar to In a Silent Way — not just the Maupin, but Eddie Henderson's Sunburst and Julian Priester's Love, Love as well.

Especially Geisterfaust.

read this as Geirzeist

this thread covered similar ground:

Miles Davis - In A Silent Way

on it i suggested the already-mentioned 'zawinul' alb, and also 'timeless' by jon abercrombie/jan hammer/jack dejohnette, especially the magnificent title track

'hanging gardens' is a v gd call; parts of 'ege bamyese' by can and of course 'zawinul/lava' on eno's 'another green world' also vibrate w/ some of the same teo macero space/time splice magic

check out the Polwechsel/Fennesz-Wrapped Islands disc I put out a few years back (on Erstwhile). I thought about namechecking IASW in the PR, but decided in the end it was a bit too much of a stretch. definitely an overlapping vibe, though, worth investigating for sure...

Harvest Time off this:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/MyJazzWorld/SO5iM5Qvo2I/AAAAAAAADVY/_Ac7ce5N2DY/PharoahSanders_Pharoah.jpg

Hmmm, the image was there for a second. Anyway, it was Pharoah Sanders' "Pharoah" album (aka Harvest Time). It has lovely cover art too.

Okay maybe I made up that "(aka Harvest Time)" part. Anyway, I'll be quiet now.

Except to say that it can be heard here: http://myjazzworld.blogspot.com/2008/10/pharoah-sanders-pharoah.html

Nice, I've never heard this album

hey! this one hasn't been mentioned yet: Van Morrison's Common One! It opens and closes with a Silent Way tribute pretty much. Great album, by the way, maybe one of Van's most underappreciated? Maybe just underappreciated by me -- hadn't heard it til recently. I also heard some of the Necks, and yeah, they are rad too.

found a good selection for this thread, purchased on a whim this weekend:

herbie mann - the stone flute

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm181/karl_ktarn/3-34.jpg

here's a review i found online:

A startlingly original departure from the trademark soul-jazz sound of Herbie Mann, this spacious and atmospheric 1970 recording flows within the vein of Miles Davis' Bitches Brew-era explorations. Throughout the record, Mann's flute floats in and out over sparse string arrangements, a light and airy gust of psychedelic bliss. The album opens with the exotic Eastern sounds of "In Tangier," arranged with unmistakable references to the original version recorded by 60s pop-icon Donovan on Hurdy Gurdy Man. Violins, viola and cello are all used to create a feeling of sailing through the celestial ether in a stoned state of mind. The second track is a rare cover of "Flying," the spaced-out Beatles instrumental from The Magical Mystery Tour, which Mann manages to recreate with an even more hallucinatory vibe. "Miss Free Spirit" is a strongly avant-garde affair, held together by Miroslav Vitous (soon to join Weather Report), who keeps things grooving along with just the right amount of restraint. Vibraphonist Roy Ayers showcases his bold imagination and technical prowess as a forward-thinking jazz player, a talent that would soon be suppressed as his commercial funk persona took over in the 70s. A major highlight is guitarist Sonny Sharrock's solo on "Miss Free Spirit," which makes a strong case for why Miles Davis recruited him to play (albeit uncredited) later that year on the epic Jack Johnson soundtrack. This is a totally unique Herbie Mann record, a must for fans of late 60s and early 70s fusion experiments of the highest caliber.
---John Ballon (email)

The Tortoise thread revive made me go hunt down Jeff Parker's solo records, and they would fit the bill here.

"almost makes up for all those horrid weather report albums dude did...almost."

why hate? they put out some wonderful dreamy stuff. i remember hearing weather report for the first time expecting some bleating prog fusion stuff and i couldn't believe how ambientmellowpretty it was. (long time ago. first album with airto.)

i just don't like 'em i guess. i have a couple...heavy weather..and something else...

While admitting that I probably have no idea what I'm talking about, doesn't some Jon Hassell have the same vibe?

the earlier pre-jaco weather report stuff is different than the later stuff like heavy weather though. i think anyone who digs shorter/zawinul stuff with miles would dig the first WR album and the live in tokyo stuff.

i think i only have jaco type stuff. the way all the instruments sound on the two i have really bothers me....it gets my inner rockist/jazzist all up in arms.

the zawinul album i was talking about upthread is probably my favorite record i've bought this year so maybe i should check it out.

anyway i don't wanna be a negative nelly and distract peeps from peepin that herbie mann record, it's great!

have to say thanks again on this thread for the Necks reccs! Eeeyowch, they are incredible.

this album is like son of silent way: maybe a little funkier.

http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/1/10/albumcoverEddieHenderson-Sunburst.jpg

i think anyone who digs shorter/zawinul stuff with miles would dig the first WR album and the live in tokyo stuff.

― scott seward, Sunday, December 7, 2008 9:21 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark

live in tokyo is a GREAT record

Why was Sunn 0)))'s "Alice" from their last album (Monoliths & Dimensions) never added to this thread? Anyway, adding it now. ;-)))

In light of this - http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/miles-davis-in-a-silent-way-round-21-nicks-choice/ - I'm thinking I might pursue a few more of these soundalikes.

David Behrman - On the Other Ocean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGLg_d_0UDE

Always thought this was a shameless ripoff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xs4ddoxPtc

Post Up Your Mixtapes 2014

garrett list's your own self is giving me a bit of an in a silent way fed through minimalism vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJaLBtbhWs

The first two Weather Report albums with Miroslav Vitous on bass definitely fit in the Bitches Brew/In A Silent Way axis points.

There are other tunes later on in Weather Reports records that get into that area too.

that garrett list is really hitting the spot. thanks!

^^^ That Garrett List recording is spectacular indeed. Reminds me of Pharoah Sanders' Let Us Go Into The House Of The Lord. Pretty hard to buy though, it seems :(

this was mentioned upthread but wow this is similar and really good

http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/2/23/albumcoverJohnAbercrombie-Timeless.jpg?1203727973

Van Morrison's 'When Heart is Open', mentioned by Tyler upthread, is very good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78-RiXhzz6M

8 years and no mention of Les McCann's Invitation to Openness?! It kind of slips into a Silent Way parody at times but it's a lovely warm listen,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqYkosktnmg

Mercury rev played Ssh/Peaceful live, not sure how frequently, but it did make it onto Lego My Ego as part of a medley with Very Sleepy Rivers.

Thanks for the Paul Schutze recommendation - very much enjoying Apart.

you guys check this one out yet?
https://schlarb.bandcamp.com/album/plays-music-for-airports

I listened just the other day. Hmm. I think I like the first track, but I sort of lost interest (I know this is part of the point). What did you think?
I think I prefer the Bang On A Can version.

i thought they pulled it off nicely -- obviously very much "let's do music for airports like in a silent way" but i dig it.

I'm not super familiar with Music For Airports - own it, rarely listen to it - but that Psychic Temple version is VERY Silent Way. Nice.

Didn't Eno say his idea of ambient music came from listening to He Loved Him Madly from Get Up With It at semi audible volume as he lay in bed ill?
So some echoes of Miles might be likely.

It’s early 1975, and Brian Eno strains to hear the recording of 18th century harp music a friend has given him.

Eno is in recovery after being hit by a car and can barely get out of bed. After putting the record on with great difficulty and lying back down, he notices the volume is too low, and that one channel on his stereo is blown.

The sheer pain of moving forces him to listen to the record at a volume that barely eclipses the background sound of the room around it.

eno talked about he loved him madly in the On Land liners:

When I was in Ghana, for instance, I took with me a stereo microphone and a cassette recorder, ostensibly to record indigenous music and speech patterns. What I sometimes found myself doing instead was sitting out on the patio in the evenings with the microphone placed to pick up the widest possible catchment of ambient sounds from all directions, and listening to the result on my headphones. The effect of this simple technological system was to cluster all the disparate sounds into one aural frame; they became music.

Listening this way, I realised I had been moving towards a music that had this feeling; as the listener, I wanted to be situated inside a large field of loosely-knit sound, rather than placed before a tightly organised monolith (or stereolith, for that matter). I wanted to open out the aural field, to put much of the sound a considerable distance from the listener (even locating some of it “out of earshot”), and to allow the sounds to live their lives separately from one another, clustering occasionally but not “musically” bound together. This gave rise to an interesting technical difficulty. Because recording studio technology and practice developed in relation to performed music, the trend of that development has been towards greater proximity, tighter and more coherent meshing of sounds with one another. Shortly after I returned from Ghana, Robert Quine gave me a copy of Miles Davis’ “He Loved Him Madly”. Teo Macero’s revolutionary production on that piece seemed to me to have the “spacious” quality I was after, and like “Amarcord”, it too became a touchstone to which I returned frequently.

Always thought Talk Talk's last two albums have a heavy In A Silent Way vibe.

And then there's this... incredible Finnish spiritual jazz from the early 80s.

https://soundcloud.com/arclighteditions/jone-takamaki-trio-bhupala-i-ale003

there's a donald byrd record from the late 60s called Kofi

just getting around to this. excellent.

oooh yes that is v nice

Checking Kofi out now and wow, yes this is the good stuff. Loving the buttery tremolo'd Rhodes. Thanks for the bump, budo

kofi is indeed dope. that material went unreleased until the mid-90s!

as unperson noted on the reissue thread, that Luis Gasca record mentioned a bit upthread here has been reissued again in South Korea

only 12 posts until someone mentioned The Necks, good job ILM

haha i guess this is where I learned about the Necks, way back in 2008! I love them.

would love to see them live!
decent 2022 release too https://thenecksau.bandcamp.com/track/imprinting

obv a very different beat from tony williams so not sure how similar

I’ve seen them three times, always different, always the same. The last one was in the open air at dusk, I was fucking levitating by the end of it.

their live shows are almost embarrassingly sexual

Found this, which I think is a compilation of 3 tracks from the same tv show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmlZnnRsPOc

& if nobody's said Santana's Lotus it is pretty great in a liquid electric jazz way hich may not be exactly referent to that particular Miles lp but fits into the continuum. & has Leon Thomas onboard.

Donald Byrd's Ethiopian Knights is pretty great too.

& Sonny Sharrock's Paradise is more balmy funk stuff with clouds of noise guitar . Again not sure if it does directly reference IASW but is a bit of an outlier in his catalogue for that balmy sunny funk stuff. That extended Whiskey A Go GO by the Herbie Mann group is also interesting since its that band from the turn of the 70s with some versions of tracks from the Sharrock's more avant late 60s lps being played.

Lego My Ego the bonus disc that acme with Yerself Is Steam at one point had a version of Very Sleepy Rivers that went in and out of a track they called Shh Peaceful . I thought it was the version from this set so should be this one. Haven't listened to this through to see how much it shows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bm4iNxvTpI

I did find Mercury Rev mixed into various eras of Miles very well anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg6ZLG41C6s

Psychic Temple - Music For Airports (Live Studio Performance)

yes! this rules, wow

nice!

this one fits in: https://cached.media/homage

Not obscure, but after listening to In A Silent Way since age 17, I loved discovering Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay a few years ago.

totally. don't sleep on Straight Life either

Nice one tyler - like that.

Do we need an ambient Americana thread? I guess the Fahey one does the trick but still...

not a bad idea — there's that "wide open desert music" thread, but that might be slightly more specific

Got to say the 2 keyboard version of the Allman Brothers with Chuck Leavell on electric piano and only Dickie on guitar doing “Elizabeth Reed” off the Wipe the Windows live album has a silent way vibe. Worth checking out if unfamiliar with the take.

one of the biggest miles rips ever; intentionally so. still good imo-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEdP5DWFRcc
mark !sh@m ― "azael"

did you know our friend mark is a fairly hardcore scientologist?

Yup but I still listen to Miles too, despite the latter's own personal shit

Huh. I didn’t know that. I guess he might be responsible for Van Morrison giving a special thanks to L Ron Hubbard in the liner notes to Inarticulate Speech of the Heart.