the necks, "hanging gardens"
― Jordan, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
(like, totally)
― Jordan, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, i was going to ask if there was any electronic music that recalled this -- will check out the Pole record.
― tylerw, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
xp Was just about to say Necks, their whole output kind of fits surely?
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
don't know the necks! who are they? recent?
― tylerw, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
first neu! record (kinda)
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I was just about to suggest The Necks as well...
http://www.discogs.com/release/327414
Brian Eno - Discreet Music
― Treblekicker, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
It's the ultimate hybrid of JAZZ and AMBIENT an sounds like an improvised JAMsession: by mixing these three words together I hereby invented a brand new musical style >this is JAMBIENT !
gross
― Jordan, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
but the necks are awesome. hanging gardens is one of my favorite records.
― Jordan, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
lol, jambient
― tylerw, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link
[It's the ultimate hybrid of JAZZ and AMBIENT an sounds like an improvised JAMsession: by mixing these three words together I hereby invented a brand new musical style >this is JAMBIENT !]
Ewww. Hadn't noticed that.
What about He Love Him Madly?
― Treblekicker, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I give you JAMBIENT
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha. Move D has some explaining to do :)
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14108
― Treblekicker, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Paul Schütze - Apart (disc 1) (electronic / microtonal take, but definitely chasing 'Shhh / Peaceful" - his later band 'Phantom City' was more about 70's Miles) - http://www.furious.com/PERFECT/schutze1.htmlBrian Eno - "Iced World" (I wish The Drop had just been a 60 minute version of this track)
― Milton Parker, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
isn't that somewhat closer to ambient er...Eno than jazz? Fripp & Eno, say?
(christ, that jambient post has made me almost physically ill--just imagining the horror, the horror. *shivers*)
xxxp
― "I'ma lose my religion and go secular on you, boy" (Ioannis), Monday, 13 October 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
i have a record with Tony Allen and Doctor L called Psycho on Da Bus that definitely reminds me of IASW, but with an afrofunk edge.
http://www.myspace.com/doctorlmind
http://www.last.fm/music/Doctor+L,+Tony+Allen,+Jean+Phi/Psycho+On+Da+Bus
― jaxon, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
definitely listen to K.I.S Compatible in the lastfm flash player (might be a bit more mellow bitches brew, but still has those sounds)
― jaxon, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Bohren Und Der Club Of Gore maybe? Especially Geisterfaust.
― Matt #2, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Listening to Bennie Maupin's Jewel In The Lotus from 1974 -- definitely has a bit of the IASW vibe. Hancock's on this one too, naturally. Either way, wow, beautiful record! GET IT.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I would say that each of those records by the Mwandishi members are similar to In a Silent Way — not just the Maupin, but Eddie Henderson's Sunburst and Julian Priester's Love, Love as well.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Especially Geisterfaust.
read this as Geirzeist
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
this thread covered similar ground:
Miles Davis - In A Silent Way
on it i suggested the already-mentioned 'zawinul' alb, and also 'timeless' by jon abercrombie/jan hammer/jack dejohnette, especially the magnificent title track
'hanging gardens' is a v gd call; parts of 'ege bamyese' by can and of course 'zawinul/lava' on eno's 'another green world' also vibrate w/ some of the same teo macero space/time splice magic
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link
check out the Polwechsel/Fennesz-Wrapped Islands disc I put out a few years back (on Erstwhile). I thought about namechecking IASW in the PR, but decided in the end it was a bit too much of a stretch. definitely an overlapping vibe, though, worth investigating for sure...
― jon abbey, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Harvest Time off this:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/MyJazzWorld/SO5iM5Qvo2I/AAAAAAAADVY/_Ac7ce5N2DY/PharoahSanders_Pharoah.jpg
― matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Hmmm, the image was there for a second. Anyway, it was Pharoah Sanders' "Pharoah" album (aka Harvest Time). It has lovely cover art too.
― matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay maybe I made up that "(aka Harvest Time)" part. Anyway, I'll be quiet now.
― matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Except to say that it can be heard here: http://myjazzworld.blogspot.com/2008/10/pharoah-sanders-pharoah.html
Nice, I've never heard this album
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
hey! this one hasn't been mentioned yet: Van Morrison's Common One! It opens and closes with a Silent Way tribute pretty much. Great album, by the way, maybe one of Van's most underappreciated? Maybe just underappreciated by me -- hadn't heard it til recently. I also heard some of the Necks, and yeah, they are rad too.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
found a good selection for this thread, purchased on a whim this weekend:
herbie mann - the stone flute
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm181/karl_ktarn/3-34.jpg
here's a review i found online:
A startlingly original departure from the trademark soul-jazz sound of Herbie Mann, this spacious and atmospheric 1970 recording flows within the vein of Miles Davis' Bitches Brew-era explorations. Throughout the record, Mann's flute floats in and out over sparse string arrangements, a light and airy gust of psychedelic bliss. The album opens with the exotic Eastern sounds of "In Tangier," arranged with unmistakable references to the original version recorded by 60s pop-icon Donovan on Hurdy Gurdy Man. Violins, viola and cello are all used to create a feeling of sailing through the celestial ether in a stoned state of mind. The second track is a rare cover of "Flying," the spaced-out Beatles instrumental from The Magical Mystery Tour, which Mann manages to recreate with an even more hallucinatory vibe. "Miss Free Spirit" is a strongly avant-garde affair, held together by Miroslav Vitous (soon to join Weather Report), who keeps things grooving along with just the right amount of restraint. Vibraphonist Roy Ayers showcases his bold imagination and technical prowess as a forward-thinking jazz player, a talent that would soon be suppressed as his commercial funk persona took over in the 70s. A major highlight is guitarist Sonny Sharrock's solo on "Miss Free Spirit," which makes a strong case for why Miles Davis recruited him to play (albeit uncredited) later that year on the epic Jack Johnson soundtrack. This is a totally unique Herbie Mann record, a must for fans of late 60s and early 70s fusion experiments of the highest caliber.---John Ballon (email)
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
The Tortoise thread revive made me go hunt down Jeff Parker's solo records, and they would fit the bill here.
― WmC, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
"almost makes up for all those horrid weather report albums dude did...almost."
why hate? they put out some wonderful dreamy stuff. i remember hearing weather report for the first time expecting some bleating prog fusion stuff and i couldn't believe how ambientmellowpretty it was. (long time ago. first album with airto.)
― scott seward, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i just don't like 'em i guess. i have a couple...heavy weather..and something else...
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
While admitting that I probably have no idea what I'm talking about, doesn't some Jon Hassell have the same vibe?
― Hideous Lump, Sunday, 7 December 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
the earlier pre-jaco weather report stuff is different than the later stuff like heavy weather though. i think anyone who digs shorter/zawinul stuff with miles would dig the first WR album and the live in tokyo stuff.
― scott seward, Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i think i only have jaco type stuff. the way all the instruments sound on the two i have really bothers me....it gets my inner rockist/jazzist all up in arms.
the zawinul album i was talking about upthread is probably my favorite record i've bought this year so maybe i should check it out.
anyway i don't wanna be a negative nelly and distract peeps from peepin that herbie mann record, it's great!
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
have to say thanks again on this thread for the Necks reccs! Eeeyowch, they are incredible.
― tylerw, Monday, 13 April 2009 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link
this album is like son of silent way: maybe a little funkier.
http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/1/10/albumcoverEddieHenderson-Sunburst.jpg
― m coleman, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i think anyone who digs shorter/zawinul stuff with miles would dig the first WR album and the live in tokyo stuff.
― scott seward, Sunday, December 7, 2008 9:21 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark
live in tokyo is a GREAT record
― 69, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Why was Sunn 0)))'s "Alice" from their last album (Monoliths & Dimensions) never added to this thread? Anyway, adding it now. ;-)))
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 19 September 2009 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
In light of this - http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/miles-davis-in-a-silent-way-round-21-nicks-choice/ - I'm thinking I might pursue a few more of these soundalikes.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link
David Behrman - On the Other Ocean
― bidfurd, Sunday, 12 February 2012 11:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGLg_d_0UDE
― doug watson, Sunday, 9 February 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link
Always thought this was a shameless ripoff:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xs4ddoxPtc
― Austin, Monday, 10 February 2014 01:45 (ten years ago) link
Post Up Your Mixtapes 2014
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Monday, 10 February 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link
garrett list's your own self is giving me a bit of an in a silent way fed through minimalism vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJaLBtbhWs
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 28 March 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
The first two Weather Report albums with Miroslav Vitous on bass definitely fit in the Bitches Brew/In A Silent Way axis points.
There are other tunes later on in Weather Reports records that get into that area too.
― earlnash, Saturday, 28 March 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
that garrett list is really hitting the spot. thanks!
― who is dankey kang (Karl Malone), Saturday, 28 March 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
^^^ That Garrett List recording is spectacular indeed. Reminds me of Pharoah Sanders' Let Us Go Into The House Of The Lord. Pretty hard to buy though, it seems :(
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Sunday, 29 March 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link
this was mentioned upthread but wow this is similar and really good
http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/2/23/albumcoverJohnAbercrombie-Timeless.jpg?1203727973
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link
Sanctuary from Bitches Brew sounds a good deal like ISW.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 24 August 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
"Nowhere" by Bob Moses (recorded in 1967-68 but shelved until 2003) gives off strong proto-IaSW vibes. shame it doesn't continue for another 15 or 20 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdnqcOwMjb0
― nothing in the dialog (unregistered), Friday, 3 January 2020 00:38 (four years ago) link
this track by Luis Gasca starts off sounding like IASW rip, the rest of the album, For Those Who Chant, has other stuff going on (Carlos Santana, chanting etc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVMV2VyiKr4
― mizzell, Thursday, 14 May 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link
I love that album. The personnel is amazing: Gasca on trumpet, Joe Henderson on tenor sax, Hadley Caliman on flute, Carlos Santana and Neal Schon on guitars, Richard Kermode on organ, George Cables, Gregg Rolie and Mark Levine on piano and/or electric piano, José "Chepito" Areas on vibes, Stanley Clarke on bass, Lenny White and Michael Shrieve on drums, Carmelo Garcia and Coke Escovedo on timbales, Mike Carabello and Victor Pantoja on congas, and Garnette Mims, Joan MacGregor, Rico Reyes, and Snooky Flowers on other percussion.
It's only ever been released on CD once, in Japan, and the prices on Discogs are far more than I'm willing to pay.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 14 May 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link
Brand-new music from Anthony Nemet, who's collaborated a bunch with Meg from U.S. Girls and her husband Max Turnbull--this is In A Supersilent Way, but IMO he nails it, maybe uncannily so but man I love this sound (another band from here in Toronto that I'd also recommend to folks, who are friends of/peers with Anthony but come from the Soft Machine/prog end of jazz fusion, would be Zacht Automaat):
https://tonypriceto.bandcamp.com/album/interview-discount
― call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link
lol, “Zacht Automaat” looks like a failed English-to-Dutch translation of “Soft Machine” (correct would be “Zachte Automaat”)
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
It is--the bandleader, Carl Didur, is a huge Softs fan
― call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:44 (three years ago) link
this tony price record is crazy
is he sampling or did he actually manage to get a band to sound like this or is it both ?
― budo jeru, Friday, 22 May 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link
He has good/interesting horn players on the session (Daniel Pencer on bass clarinet plays live with Andy Shauf; Andy Haas on sax was in Martha & The Muffins early on and now plays in the Cosmic Range), which helps IMO, and obv treated the sounds (electric keys, etc.) for max Teology
― call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 03:39 (three years ago) link
https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2020/05/26/tune-in-zone-out-silent-ways/
― tylerw, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
Eddie Henderson's Sunburst― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:11 AM
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:11 AM
his two mid-70s blue notes (sunburst and heritage) are so appropriate for this topic. more polished and funky than what miles had done, but the more i hear those two albums through the years, the better they sound. there's a very opaque quality to them that i just can't articulate - there's moments on both that still don't sound like anything else to me.
― ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link
also here's a fun late 70s eddie henderson tune-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk1GDzvHtMI
"connie" (1977)
― ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link
All but one of Henderson's '70s albums are good to great. For those who don't know, Realization and Inside Out are basically Mwandishi albums released under Henderson's name, and then Sunburst, Comin' Through, Heritage and Mahal are all slick jazz-funk gradually evolving into disco. He made one more album, 1979's Runnnin' To Your Love, that I've never heard, but he's lying down shirtless on the cover, caressing a flugelhorn, and I think I'm safe in passing on it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link
there's a donald byrd record from the late 60s called Kofi
just getting around to this. excellent.
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link
oooh yes that is v nice
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 10:20 (one year ago) link
Checking Kofi out now and wow, yes this is the good stuff. Loving the buttery tremolo'd Rhodes. Thanks for the bump, budo
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link
kofi is indeed dope. that material went unreleased until the mid-90s!
― judging the world through jaundiced eyes (Austin), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
as unperson noted on the reissue thread, that Luis Gasca record mentioned a bit upthread here has been reissued again in South Korea
― sleeve, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link
only 12 posts until someone mentioned The Necks, good job ILM
― sleeve, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link
haha i guess this is where I learned about the Necks, way back in 2008! I love them.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link
would love to see them live!decent 2022 release too https://thenecksau.bandcamp.com/track/imprinting
obv a very different beat from tony williams so not sure how similar
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link
I’ve seen them three times, always different, always the same. The last one was in the open air at dusk, I was fucking levitating by the end of it.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link
their live shows are almost embarrassingly sexual
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 11:34 (one year ago) link
Found this, which I think is a compilation of 3 tracks from the same tv showhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmlZnnRsPOc
& if nobody's said Santana's Lotus it is pretty great in a liquid electric jazz way hich may not be exactly referent to that particular Miles lp but fits into the continuum. & has Leon Thomas onboard.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 11:45 (one year ago) link
Donald Byrd's Ethiopian Knights is pretty great too.
& Sonny Sharrock's Paradise is more balmy funk stuff with clouds of noise guitar . Again not sure if it does directly reference IASW but is a bit of an outlier in his catalogue for that balmy sunny funk stuff. That extended Whiskey A Go GO by the Herbie Mann group is also interesting since its that band from the turn of the 70s with some versions of tracks from the Sharrock's more avant late 60s lps being played.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 11:51 (one year ago) link
Lego My Ego the bonus disc that acme with Yerself Is Steam at one point had a version of Very Sleepy Rivers that went in and out of a track they called Shh Peaceful . I thought it was the version from this set so should be this one. Haven't listened to this through to see how much it showshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bm4iNxvTpI
I did find Mercury Rev mixed into various eras of Miles very well anyway.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 23:33 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg6ZLG41C6s
Psychic Temple - Music For Airports (Live Studio Performance)
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 22 February 2024 13:29 (two months ago) link
yes! this rules, wow
― budo jeru, Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:12 (two months ago) link
nice!
― bendy, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 18:21 (one month ago) link
this one fits in: https://cached.media/homage
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 18:36 (one month ago) link
Not obscure, but after listening to In A Silent Way since age 17, I loved discovering Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay a few years ago.
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 18:43 (one month ago) link
totally. don't sleep on Straight Life either
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:33 (one month ago) link
Nice one tyler - like that.
Do we need an ambient Americana thread? I guess the Fahey one does the trick but still...
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:33 (one month ago) link
not a bad idea — there's that "wide open desert music" thread, but that might be slightly more specific
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:51 (one month ago) link
Got to say the 2 keyboard version of the Allman Brothers with Chuck Leavell on electric piano and only Dickie on guitar doing “Elizabeth Reed” off the Wipe the Windows live album has a silent way vibe. Worth checking out if unfamiliar with the take.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 10 March 2024 01:40 (one month ago) link
one of the biggest miles rips ever; intentionally so. still good imo-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEdP5DWFRccmark !sh@m ― "azael"
did you know our friend mark is a fairly hardcore scientologist?
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 19:43 (one week ago) link
Yup but I still listen to Miles too, despite the latter's own personal shit
― sawdust lagoon, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 23:34 (one week ago) link
Huh. I didn’t know that. I guess he might be responsible for Van Morrison giving a special thanks to L Ron Hubbard in the liner notes to Inarticulate Speech of the Heart.
― bbq, Thursday, 18 April 2024 01:54 (six days ago) link