(Lock down the Hobbit, not Bond, etc.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 September 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
the hobbit would be a much bigger money maker than bond. cost more though I guess.
― akm, Friday, 25 September 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess I just am comfortable with the fact that I read these books decades ago. So if someone wants to make a spectacular $200million fantasy film based on these properties, I'll gladly get high and watch them.
this is the the best outlook on this subject i've read.
these are also more conventional fantasy stories - not nearly as complicated or as much info to try to squeeze in as LotR, so i'm actually more hopeful about these than i was about the Fellowship of the Rings when it was announced. i just hope each one isn't 3 hours long. i really have no patience for long-ass movies.
― A polar bear you can see in a snowstorm (rockapads), Friday, 25 September 2009 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Thanks for the back-up rockapads. See you in the front row.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 26 September 2009 01:28 (fourteen years ago) link
have changed outlook from 'not seeing these' to 'will be seeing these but am dreading them'
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 September 2009 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
That's years of dread dude. Bummer.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 28 September 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link
it's fairly low level stuff, tbh. am coping.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 08:47 (fourteen years ago) link
How in the world is MGM 'teetering on bankruptcy'?
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 28 September 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Nvmd, this is a dismal looking list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer_films#2008
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 28 September 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost reparations for those traumatised by stargate
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe the MGM managers should go on a magical quest to steal some treasure off a big dragon.
― Oppositional Soup (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE MONEY U FUK
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
BAGGINSES' JOB TITLE WAS "THIEF" FFS
― Oppositional Soup (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link
you may have something there.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow, how did MGM become such garbage?
― I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
del Toro's out.
So happy about this. Love this guy's imagination, but he has a knack for making dreck.
Then again, you could do a lot worse. Fingers crossed for Alfonso Cuarón or, why not?, David Gordon Green.
― sean gramophone, Monday, 31 May 2010 06:51 (thirteen years ago) link
We're not talking about Brett Ratner here. Maybe he's made some stuff you didn't care for but "dreck"? Please to explain...
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 31 May 2010 08:45 (thirteen years ago) link
time to get luc besson on dis ting, about a decade too late imo
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 31 May 2010 10:11 (thirteen years ago) link
cometh the hour, cometh mcg
― history mayne, Monday, 31 May 2010 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link
up and coming s spielberg should probably get a chance at a big franchise
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 31 May 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link
It's all down to the basket case that is MGM and the extended unsureness around finally resolving a sale so they could get the funding locked in. Personally I'm pretty bummed about this, I think he would have done wonders. Jackson's indicated he's not directing so hmm. Might be interesting to see if he looks at home for someone; it would actually make a little more sense given his often-stated desire to continue developing NZ's film industry as a whole.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 May 2010 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah jeez del toro is perfect
― max, Monday, 31 May 2010 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
o shi: JOHN BOORMAN
― transient truff (history mayne), Monday, 31 May 2010 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link
The main story on this:
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2010/05/30/36920-guillermo-del-toro-departs-the-hobbit/#more-36920
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 May 2010 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i know these guys are rich and all but i do feel bad for people in such an all-or-nothing business that they can work on pre-production on something for a couple years and then just have it all go up in smoke like this
― Christina NAGLera (some dude), Monday, 31 May 2010 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Maybe he's made some stuff you didn't care for but "dreck"? Please to explain...
The two Hell Boy movies are pretty much my archetype of "cool design", "neat story and characters", "wow is that a shitty finished movie".
― sean gramophone, Monday, 31 May 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link
^ OTM OTM OTM
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 31 May 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder if his Hobbit movies would've had neat stories and characters.
― Christina NAGLera (some dude), Monday, 31 May 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
And let's not forget Blade 2
would've been pretty easy to snort "lol The Frighteners" a decade ago too
― Christina NAGLera (some dude), Monday, 31 May 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
yes, yes it would.
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 31 May 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I dunno: Frighteners felt promising, not quite the movie Jackson seemed to want to make. Whereas del Toro's failures just feel like he sorta sucks. (I enjoyed Pan's Labyrinth until the ending.)
― sean gramophone, Monday, 31 May 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
it turns out middle earth was just a figment of a little girl's imagination
― pokám0n (dyao), Monday, 31 May 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Dreamed by a dog on an island.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 May 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
the little fat beardy girl forgot about tom bombadil, but misremembered in some fucking werewolves in the second film iirc
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 31 May 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
The above assessments of Del Toro OTM, but damn this could get a lot worse. Scared to hear the next name.
― 99 anna hay-uff jussa woan' do (Jon Lewis), Monday, 31 May 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Michael Winterbottom-
Dwarf-orgy (hardcore, obv) followed by prolonged and explicit killing of an actual dragon.
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 31 May 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Boorman would be dope actually. Too old now, I suspect.
― 99 anna hay-uff jussa woan' do (Jon Lewis), Monday, 31 May 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Haha I've got it-- Von Trier!
― 99 anna hay-uff jussa woan' do (Jon Lewis), Monday, 31 May 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
was tryin to think of van trier tbh
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 31 May 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
David Lynch. He did Dune, so why not?
― StanM, Monday, 31 May 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
He did Dune
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 31 May 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
as long as it isn't peter jackson
― transient truff (history mayne), Monday, 31 May 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Good point. xpost
― StanM, Monday, 31 May 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Re del Toro dreck: I liked both Hellboy movies, Pans Labyrinth...he has a great 'fairytale sensibility' imo ...am bummed he's off this.
Just watched Adventures of Baron Munchausen....god Gilliam could make an awesome Hobbit (assuming Gilliam wasn't Gilliam and could bring it in on time, in budget, &c...that is to say, so not gonna happen)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 31 May 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Pretty good summary post on what the background all was:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/05/guillermo-del-toro-hobbit-mgm-peter-jackson-quits-baggins.html
See also the past six months of MGM commentary over at Nikki Finke's site.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 May 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
If there's one message that "Inside Job," Charles Ferguson's new documentary about the financial crisis, imparts to audiences, it's that even the most far-flung factors can give rise to serious real-world consequences.
On Sunday an object lesson in that truism hit the film world, as fan boys and the rest of us suddenly found ourselves the unexpected victims of Wall Street woolliness.
CHILLING. really brings it all home. "can't happen here" much??
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 31 May 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I learned it all from you, s1ocki! Oh wait wrong moral lesson.
If anything I'm betting McKellen's out now as Gandalf; he'd already said he would be involved only if he didn't have to commit for another long back-and-forth period to NZ and I don't think anyone would blame him if he bowed out.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 May 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i really can't see how this can possibly happen now unless they just completely hand it over to another studio
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 31 May 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Well the only reason why this has to do with MGM at all is the extremely bizarre rights situation, which came about thanks to, of all things, that Rankin-Bass animated Hobbit talked about upthread. Ever since the seventies when Saul Zaentz -- who I think still has final say as original rightsholder, but I could be wrong -- split the difference between the Rankin-Bass TV projects and the Bakshi movie there's been no one overall Tolkien film rights package, and the making of that earlier Hobbit created a situation that eventually resulted in MGM having a say in the matter instead of it just being New Line/Warners straight up. It's one reason why Warners went ahead and put in the bid to take it over but MGM's creditors didn't accept that and etc. etc. here we are today.
Actually looking over at Finke (though the story is by Mike Fleming) there's this:
http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/del-toro-leaves-the-hobbit-and-evidently-peter-jackson-wont-be-next/
...which mentions that Sam Raimi had initially wanted the directing job. So maybe him?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 May 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link