Neither. BTW, there should be an intermediate category for bands such as Mazzy Star, Strokes and so on. Not great but passable.
― Vision, Monday, 13 October 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link
"So Tonight That I Might See" is brilliant, and not samey. It's one of the best albums of the 90s, if you ask me. Their other albums sound samey to me.
― Dogface Chain (res), Monday, 13 October 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Not bad live as I recall.
― Michael White, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Beach House is sort of a watered down version of Mazzy Star's worst moments.
― Dogface Chain (res), Monday, 13 October 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Beach House *really* sounds like Kendra Smith post Opal solo records.
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Now why did I forget how good of an album opener "Halah" is.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 June 2009 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Dud.
― litcofsky, Thursday, 4 June 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
man, whatever happened to Roback
― Kool G Lapp (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 4 June 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
he guested on Bert Jansch's last record ... but yeah, he sure dropped out.
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 June 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
feel like i read that mazzy star was planning a new album ... but that might've been like 8 years ago.
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 June 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
"Kevin said he'd produce the album for me after he got done with his."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 June 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link
hee hee. from wikipedia: "In 2000, the band reunited for a mini-tour in Europe, which featured new songs that Sandoval later revealed in interviews would be on the new Mazzy Star record, which was also recorded during this time. However, these sessions were not released."
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 June 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Wrote a couple songs for Maggie Cheung in this 2004 movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388838/
Other than that, probably just kicking back in Norway
― Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 4 June 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
And is really where the name came from?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Horseshoe-Canyon-Star-Sheriff-Midnight-Mazzy_W0QQitemZ330328389339QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0
― Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 4 June 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Capital C Classic. 'blue light' is an all-time fave song and 'so tonite i might see' would be a perfect album if '5 string serenade' was a verse & chorus shorter
― 6335, Thursday, 4 June 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i always think the third album is unfairly overlooked
― the ring toun (electricsound), Thursday, 4 June 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Loved them unreservedly during their heyday. Need to listen again.
These people were not joking around with the sad! I observed/interacted with different members of the band at a few various points during the 90s, just pre-show bar activity & such. For the most part, I recall being struck by how sullen they were as a general rule, as if they had some major goth cred to uphold (but they didn't, really). At one point I observed Hope walking over to a remote corner in a shitty nightclub & crying silently to herself.
― "alt-black" (Pillbox), Friday, 5 June 2009 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I've been listening to "So Tonight That I Might See" a lot lately. It's really just . . . beautiful.
― Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Friday, 19 June 2009 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ fucking great album. I'm lukewarm about the first and third albums though. The first sounds kind of undeveloped to me, while the third's songs aren't as memorable.
― Jesus Christ, Chiropractor at Law (res), Friday, 19 June 2009 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link
This really is one of those perfect bands who should never, ever blemish their legacy by 'reuniting'
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 19 June 2009 07:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i love mazzy star. the second album is prob the best but i usually feel more inclined to listen to the first. 'halah' indeed is an incredible opener and could even be my favorite song by them
haven't heard the third album tho
― mark cl, Friday, 19 June 2009 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah after I posted that last night I listened to STTIMS in its entirety and I'm pretty certain it's just perfect. I do also really like She Hangs Brightly but don't reach for that as often. Never really got into the 3rd album.
― Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Friday, 19 June 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah the 3rd album was a huge letdown for me at the time.
― baaderonixx, Friday, 19 June 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
First album is a stroke of genius, the perfect mix of druggy/hazy psych and folky beauty.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 19 June 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
The only thing letdown I experienced from Among My Swan was due to the godawful title! I don't see where the big quality dropoff claims are rooted, being that it should have been pretty obvious to anyone who had been listening from the beginning (of MS or, better yet, going back to the band's days as Opal) that Roback et al only had a few tricks up his sleeve, which he just cycled through as needed on his albums. As such, any expectations for an evolutionary step forward from STTIMS would have been sorely misguided.
For the uninitiated, check out Opal's Early Recordings. You will not be disappointed.
― lol? I nearly wtb 1 (Pillbox), Friday, 19 June 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't see where the big quality dropoff claims are rooted
I know every song on STTIMS, but I can only remember one on AMS despite many listens.
― Jesus Christ, Chiropractor at Law (res), Friday, 19 June 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm still in love with Hope Sandoval's voice. They're music being quite simple I've never understood why I get completely immersed when listening to them. It's like the musical equivalent to heroine for me. And it's not nostalgia fueled either... I started listening to them about 5 years ago. Wish I was there when they still existed.
― Moka, Friday, 19 June 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't really care for their homogeneity, either.
― Moka, Friday, 19 June 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
hope's warm jets album is way better than the last mazzy record.
― tylerw, Friday, 19 June 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I can only remember one on AMS despite many listens
I got 3! 'Flowers in December', 'Disappear' and 'Take Everything'. But yeah, haven't a clue what else was on it.
― Enemy Insects (NickB), Friday, 19 June 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
wow Hope Sandoval announces that a new Mazzy Star will come out.
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
wow! got a link?
― Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't see that comin'.
― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Heard something about this today, forget where. I thought it was just a solo release.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
eh? all i got was this: http://www.mbvmusic.com/new-hope-sandoval-mp3-blanchard/11677
― tylerw, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
(new warm inventions mp3)
I got this in my mail today. Sorry bout the formatting...don't have time to fix:
Since the release of Mazzy Star's debut album She Hangs Brightly, Hope Sandoval has defined the sound and style of California psychedelic dream pop. The world took notice when the breakthrough single "Fade Into You" (from sophomore album So Tonight That I Might See) hit the airwaves and MTV heavy rotation. Sandoval's trademark vocals helped to make her a modern day music icon. Now the revered singer returns along side My Bloody Valentine's Colm O'Ciosoig to deliver her long awaited sophomore album Through The Devil Softly on September 1.Over the past decade, the sought after vocalist has collaborated with artists from across the musical landscape: The Jesus & Mary Chain, Air, Death in Vegas, The Chemical Brothers, Massive Attack and Bert Jansch, to count a few.In 2001, she joined Colm O'Ciosoig to form Hope Sandoval & the Warm Inventions and release their debut Bavarian Fruit Bread. Now on Through The Devil Softly, the definitive star of the Paisley Underground scene reignites her trademark sound in an epic journey across the 11-song album. The project continues the laid-back, slowcore sound they are renowned for and places Sandoval's sensuous, hypnotic voice in the forefront. Recorded in both Northern California and the Wicklow Mountains of Ireland, the spare, subtle arrangements reinforce Sandoval's gentle vocal style.An extensive North American tour is planned for Fall 09, with dates in the UK and Europe to follow.Grab the lead track 'Blanchard' instantly below:Blanchard Mp3Hope Sandoval MyspaceHope Sandoval Facebook
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
that's about the Warm Inventions, not Mazzy Star though.
― Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry should have provided the link: http://pitchfork.com/news/35854-mazzy-stars-hope-sandoval-returns-with-new-album
The last paragraph. It does sound a bit vague but yeah this is pretty unexpected.
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link
the definitive star of the Paisley Underground scene
love hope but this is twaddle
― c.c. crabcock (electricsound), Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:18 (fourteen years ago) link
mazzy star should release a split single with mbv
― c.c. crabcock (electricsound), Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Of course, it's perfectly safe to make this claim, because Kendra Smith is off the grid.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess
― c.c. crabcock (electricsound), Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i shall take this moment to point out that suki ewers' solo album, derivative of mazzy/galaxie that it is, is completely gorgeous
― c.c. crabcock (electricsound), Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Hope Sandoval has collaborated with Massive Attack in the past!? What? When?
― Moka, Thursday, 9 July 2009 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link
tis forthcoming apparently
― c.c. crabcock (electricsound), Thursday, 9 July 2009 07:53 (fourteen years ago) link
hey this Warm Inventions record is pretty good!
― Jack Kirby's Orangutan Surfing Civilization (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 November 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
actually a good deal more diverse and dreamier than Mazzy Star, not as monotone in its instrumentation and production style
― Jack Kirby's Orangutan Surfing Civilization (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 November 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
The new one or the one from earlier this decade? Haven't heard the new one, but I'd dare to say I like the first Warm Inventions record better than *any* Mazzy Star record. Not that I don't like Mazzy ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 19 November 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
the new one, Through the Devil Softly
― Jack Kirby's Orangutan Surfing Civilization (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 November 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i may have been slightly exaggerating back in 2009, but whenever bavarian fruit bread comes on (it's a fave of my wife's) i'm struck by how good it is.
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link
TBH i kinda feel that way about the second warm inventions record - through the devil softly - which gets more plays than any MS record around mine
caveat of course that i like mazzy star just fine but TTDS just hits the spot for me more consistently and deeply, it always feels a bit heretical when i tell friends tho'!
i saw the warm inventions tour that record and it was a really beautiful show (although i heard that some of the other dates on that tour were a bit troubled)
― umsworth (emsworth), Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link
New single is lovely: https://youtu.be/WBbEVzgoEhA
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 27 April 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
oooh, new EP in June! so happy they're in the studio these days
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link
You made my day
― done and dusted (Ross), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link
Mazzy Star are coming to Los Angeles:
February 26 & 27 The Cathedral Sanctuary atImmanuel Presbyterian ChurchPresale:Thu, 1/17 at 10am – Thu, 1/17 at 10pmPassword: CELEBRATEPublic On Sale: Fri, 1/18 at 10am
― Bee OK, Thursday, 17 January 2019 01:46 (five years ago) link
i think i need to go!
they're really good live!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 17 January 2019 03:26 (five years ago) link
I think I might need to go too!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 17 January 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link
BTW, Hope Sandoval is on a Bobby Gentry tribute album, singing "Big Boss Man" - In Praise Of: Bobbie Gentry, "The Delta Sweete"
― sbahnhof, Sunday, 20 January 2019 07:02 (five years ago) link
So I went to the Oakland show and one of the LA shows, and they were pretty magical. Especially the LA show in a gorgeous old church. Listening to the after-show banter at a nearby bar, was amused to hear how many fans were aggrieved that the stage was unlit so they couldn't get any good pictures or even see Hope Sandoval. They had a big screen with these animated overlays that changed for each song that was great though. Some fans don't know they're born.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link
i forgot all about these shows, glad you had fun Hazel.
― Bee OK, Friday, 1 March 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link
Hoping for the best
😢Yesterday I got bad news, diagnosed with breast cancer. Still processing the whole thing. Please send healing thoughts and pics of puppies, kittens, snakes, tardigrade, and space things. Thanks.— Suki Ewers 🎶💫✨🚀🛰🦠🧬🧪 (@sukianemone) February 20, 2020
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 21 February 2020 04:37 (four years ago) link
RIP David Roback.
https://pitchfork.com/news/mazzy-stars-david-roback-dead-at-61
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 22:51 (four years ago) link
Damn
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link
oh no, that is terrible news! one of my absolute favorites
― avellano medio Inglés (f. hazel), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link
RIP. Damn shame.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link
Shit.
― Mule, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:46 (four years ago) link
I just listened through the Mazzy-catalogue just the other day. Love them.
― Mule, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
RIPsuch a great sound, and enduring I still run across new bands of people in their 20s that are clearly influenced by Mazzy Star
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 00:04 (four years ago) link
so much "dreampop" owes them a huge debt
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link
Mazzy Star were EVERYTHING to me in the early 90s, and led me to the wonders of Opal too. I'm really shocked.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 00:27 (four years ago) link
RIP
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 00:37 (four years ago) link
RIP. She Hangs Brightly is all-time.
― Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 02:55 (four years ago) link
some of the druggiest music ever made, it hangs in its own special hazy sweet spot and practically makes the walls drip when it's playing
(meant as high praise)
― sleeve, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:11 (four years ago) link
The guitar tone of "Ghost Highway".
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 05:57 (four years ago) link
This is horrible news. He meant a lot to the LA scene. RIP
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 06:44 (four years ago) link
https://www.latimes.com/obituaries/story/2020-02-25/david-roback-mazzy-star-dead
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 07:21 (four years ago) link
No way... This really sucks. Amazing sounds and moods.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 09:56 (four years ago) link
Being quietly destroyed here by Still and Seasons of Your Day - inevitably I spent less time with them than the early records but there's no loss of magic.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:14 (four years ago) link
Cause of death is cancer. :-((
― nathom, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:53 (four years ago) link
god these records sound SO GOOD, so much space, great sound, everything
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link
yeah Among My Swan was sounding fantastic last night — I kind of slotted that one as the weakest of their original three records, but I think I was wrong. Just a totally enveloping soundworld/mood.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link
“I wanted to make music that I felt and if people liked it, fine, otherwise the music would be enough reward.”
― Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link
Only just heard this news, fucking hell
― ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
Extremely good article here, many reflections from friends and collaborators:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-03-06/david-roback-mazzy-star-susanna-hoffs-opal-cancer
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link
:(https://reverb.com/item/44135848-1968-fender-telecaster-guitar-blonde-w-bigsby-owned-by-david-roback-44566
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 9 September 2021 12:37 (two years ago) link