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This is too good. I can't wait for this show!

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Friday, 6 May 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

they were fucking great last nite in PDX!! andy gill looked like he had just woken up, staring down the crowd through puffy eyes hacking at his guitar = awesome. jon king was indeed spazzed out, and now looks like an MP. they got into a fight briefly and andy was on his cellphone onstage. two encores; they genuinely seemed happy to be playing! (except when they were bickering). andy's tone was absolutely coruscating and mr. allen was quite thrashy/funky. recommended!

f, Friday, 6 May 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

what did they get in a fight about? was andy calling an airline to fly him home?

I can say that Gang of Four live was probably the best rock show I've seen since the last time I saw Sleater Kinney (several years).

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 6 May 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i have no idea what they were squabbling about. at one point andy was saying something to the crowd and the drummer was hitting a drum and andy turns and says "oi, cut it out ginger baker"

but they all gave shoutouts to david allen at the end

zzz12S`, Friday, 6 May 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

yyyeeeeeooowwwwzah

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 7 May 2005 07:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I just got back from the Seattle show. Jon banging on a dented microwave with a large stick during He'd Send In The Army was really bizarre. Have they been doing this at other shows? He totally destroyed that thing. It was cool the way they varied the echo on the mic while he did that, too.

I found it hard to tell at times how much they were really enjoying it. Andy didn't seem very happy for some reason. It was wild to watch Dave, Jon and Andy move all over the stage at the same time and somehow avoid bumping into each other! You can kind of see why a band like that might not get along very well. Personally I love "I Parade Myself" so I'm glad they played that one. The way they played Damaged Goods sounded soo good - like they'd added a little something you couldn't quite put a finger on.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Saturday, 7 May 2005 07:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for the replies! I think the thin/flat sound is part of what makes the first album work for me more than the follow-ups did. Stuff like "I Love a Man in Uniform" just sounds too slick to me, although it's been a while since I've listened to that material, so maybe my tastes have changed. But I suppose I wouldn't mind going to see them do an amped-up version of their early stuff.

But $22.50 ticket price + $12.50 worth of Ticketmaster bullshit + $2.50 mailing fee + gas to Chicago + tolls + parking near Metro = $50 + time spent driving on freeway and in Chicago traffic, so I might sit this one out and just go catch the last film of the Ozu series that's playing on campus instead. But thanks for the advices anyway, y'all.

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 7 May 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

...really looking forward to tonights show,given what has been posted here. below is an article from this weeks georgia staright.

Gang of Four rises again

By alexander varty

Publish Date: 5-May-2005
The guys in Gang of Four have reunited for the first time in more than 20 years, and they evidently couldn’t be more delighted about it.

The guys in Gang of Four have reunited for the first time in more than 20 years, and they evidently couldn’t be more delighted about it.

Twenty years ago, Gang of Four bassist Dave Allen would have scoffed at the notion that he’d ever join singer Jon King, guitarist Andy Gill, and drummer Hugo Burnham in reforming the world’s best-ever agit-pop band. Even more risible would be the notion that in order to do so, he’d be working out with a personal trainer to make sure his middle-aged body was up to the rigours of the road.

“It’s really funny,” says the former U.K. resident, reached at home in Portland, Oregon. “When I was in my 20s, I did kind of mock the idea of Mick Jagger still playing when he was 50 years old, and now I’m doing it. It’s like, well, ‘Oops!’ People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones—at Rolling Stones, even.

“So I began a workout regime with a trainer starting in February of this year, because after the U.K. tour I realized that I wasn’t as fit as I thought I was,” he continues. “Even though we pulled it off and it was great, I ended up catching the flu, and I just felt, ‘Well, shit, if I’m going to do this, I’m going to do it properly.’ But we’re all in good shape, really, although Hugo is more overweight than he should be. But that’s his personal choice. I mean, he didn’t go out and get a trainer.”

For a second, there’s a flash of the combative spirit that both animated the original Gang of Four lineup and that led to Allen’s departure in 1982. (King, Gill, and Burnham soldiered on with a string of replacement bassists until 1984.) Otherwise, the veteran musician sounds like he’s mellowed considerably since the days of “At Home He’s a Tourist” and “Damaged Goods” but not so much that he’s going to let the Gang of Four’s legacy be usurped by all the younger groups—including the Rapture, Franz Ferdinand, and the Faint—currently claiming them as a major influence.

“All these bands that the press talk about that are taking from the punky-funky-jerky sound of the Gang of Four… It’s all well and good, musically, but they’re not doing anything lyrically,” he says. “They’re not saying anything. Even with Bloc Party, which gets thrown around as an example of a good Gang of Four–sounding band, it just sounds like sloganeering. Which we were adamantly against, just vehemently against. We did not stand up and throw our fists in the air and go, ‘Kill the rich! Bring down the government!’ There was a certain subtle irony in everything we did.”

Irony, yes, and a degree of brutal physicality. So much so, in fact, that if the Gang’s Saturday (May 7) appearance at the Commodore Ballroom is anything near as powerful as its sweat-drenched appearance there in the early ’80s, a cathartic good time will be had by all.

Allen, for one, thinks the revived Gang can deliver.

“The job we have at hand, as we keep reminding ourselves, is that we have to be as good, if not better, than we were the first time around,” he notes. “So that was the immediate challenge we set for ourselves, and it worked. We’ve worked really hard in rehearsals; we’re very demanding on each other. But what’s also happened is that we’ve matured. We’re just as volatile, but we’re less quick to fly off the handle, which I think is very important. Now before we start attacking each other there seems to be more of a pause, and then we get some discussion going. But that just comes with age. Three of us have kids, for instance, and if you can handle that, you can handle a band, ’cause that’s just about as bad as it gets.”

william (william), Saturday, 7 May 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

William, you're going to have such a great time... Trust me.

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 7 May 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Hugo is more overweight than he should be. But that’s his personal choice.

hahaha

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 7 May 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Didn't stop his drumming from being A+ tight. Lots of people in the audience were shouting "HUUUUUUUUUGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" last night.

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 7 May 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

oh my fucking god!!!!! incredible!!!! highlights::the microwave beatings of king,the guitar destruction [litterally] of gill,the unbelievably tight playing of burnham/allen. how they never stopped moving/roaming about the stage. having seen both the slint reunion and now the GoF reunion,tough as it is for me to chose which was better ,i would have to say the GoF! do not miss this if you can get to a show!!!

william (william), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Newsflash-Gang of Four don't like Radio 4 so much

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 9 May 2005 04:24 (eighteen years ago) link

haha, are you going to spill the beans and tell the people why, Ms. Timmons?

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link

What I want to know is are they using a different microwave each time? Did it start out with the front door attached, William?

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Monday, 9 May 2005 04:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Did it start out with the front door attached, William?

...yup...it was white with a black front door. jon king used a short baseball bat type club to utterly destroy it. again...i can't urge people enough to catch them should they play your town in the next two weeks. i was really surprised the commodore ballroom was not more than 75% full.

william (william), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:01 (eighteen years ago) link

We saw some people walking out with the demolished microwave after the show Friday night.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link

A black front!! You're kidding! Ours started out with a white front and white body! Although to be honest it was already about to fall apart before he started banging on it.

Did he start banging on it while it was on a platform of some kind and then continued to bang on it as it fell on the floor of the stage? What happened to the microwave on your end? I recall a roadie also conveniently moving the microphone closer when it fell on the floor.

xpost - brilliant! A destroyed microwave from Gang of 4! Next trend in music will be...toaster ovens on stage!

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:10 (eighteen years ago) link

King told KEXP on Friday that on one tour stop, the promoter didn't get a microwave. Instead, there was a walk-in fridge -- I swear I heard this right.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Next trend in music will be: have your lead singer sing vocals from inside a walk-in freezer.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Ahead of their time again!

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

King told KEXP on Friday that on one tour stop, the promoter didn't get a microwave. Instead, there was a walk-in fridge -- I swear I heard this right.
I thought I heard that, too!

That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:23 (eighteen years ago) link

the microwave's glass was taped too, to prevent it from breaking. hahah i cant believe they're doing that at multiple shows! classic

jake b. (cerybut), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I think that Ian Dury were a lot better at combining new wave with disco than Gang Of Four ever were. Also, !!! are currently better than GoF at what GoF were doing back then.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Geir, have you found anyone else who agrees with you? I think most would differ with your take.

steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, !!! have a lot more to do with later Pop Group, Pigbag, Grace Cale's Dubset, and the funkier moments of 23 Skidoo than they do with Gang Of Four... the !!!/Go4 comparison is a puzzling one, Geir...

(You can like !!! better if you wish, though.. no one's going to stop you there)

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Ian Dury--the music-hall influence on GO4 to be elaborated upon further, I'm sure...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I think we're forgetting about PUNISHMENT OF LUXURY in this whole equation!

(They were a really weird disco-punk band in that they fully integrated a Syd Barrett/"Nuggets" Acid Bubblegum element to their post-punk-disco that was pretty genius.)

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

The music hall influence is the exact reason why Ian Dury was better.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I probably like Ian Dury a shade better than Go4 but it's a really weird comparison, it's not like they have a hell of a lot in common

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a broken microwave if Go4 wants to use it. It'd be an honour. Unfortunately, the closest they're getting to my city is Washington, D.C., and that's about a 15-hour drive away. Why no Atlanta date?

That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post.

"Hit Me with Your Rhythm Stick" and "I Love A Man in Uniform" musically are sorta in the same ballpark. I like 'em both.

I like Ian and the G04 but for the most part, it's kinda apples and oranges. I'll take Entertainment over New Boots, if I haveta choose.

steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I probably like Ian Dury a shade better than Go4 but it's a really weird comparison, it's not like they have a hell of a lot in common

What they do have in common is they mixed new wave and disco. Although Ian Dury's music hall/pubrock was of course a different kind of new wave from GoF's postpunk.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 9 May 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

What Ian song should GO4 cover?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

"Wake Up and Make Love Like Anthrax With Me"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry I asked.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

but where is the love for Blue Rondo a la Turk, goddammit?

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 04:03 (eighteen years ago) link

"Morley and Mr. Sanchez"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw a geezer from Gang of 4 talking with Reynolds et al the other week. He was rubbish.

I think I have not heard their music for years, but I have a feeling it is rubbish, also.

the bluefox, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

well you are wrong!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

What's the definition of geezer?

peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Was there mention of a kiosk?

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Mpls show semi-wrecky but I'm not sorry I went, despite the vile Quest and CC promotion. The microwave was on a flimsy stand which fell over. Gill checked his cell phone messages. "At Home He's A Tourist" was dedicated to "BROOOOCE." "Gluttons for punishment, are you?" inquired J. King re requests for an encore. Afterwards, overheard young fans remark disapprovingly on what they described as King's "cock rock" moves. What can I say -- one person's "cock rock moves" are another's ultra-spaz charisma. Hugo and Dave were excellent. Middle-aged people be getting PAID. "Some are insane and they're in charge." Yeah.

box of socks, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Going tonight with a small caravan of friends. Is it worth it toput in a concentrated effort to make it on time to see Radio 4? I know that the GangofFourers have made it public about their dislike for Radio 4, but I'm not sure if that's meant personally, or musically.

peepee (peepee), Friday, 13 May 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Check out Menomona if you're going to check out any band. They weren't really my thing, but at least they liked what they were doing, and had it down.

Radio 4 looked like the fucking Mighty Mighty Bosstones after weight loss and a class in Disco-Wave-Punk 101. (Sorry to the Radio 4 lovers.) They're not terrible live, but I'd punch their mugs if I had to deal with them in a bar or, oh say, a dressing room.

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

well, i GUESS you should also see the headlining band too. sigh. (haha. minor details, sorry.)

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

They're not terrible live

Not quite praise there, is it?

peepee (peepee), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

THEY WERE REALLY GOOD, weren't they, box of socks? i thought the mix was a little tamed, gill's guitar wasn't doing the sparks-of-the-subway-rails thing i was hoping for. but other than that, i was really impressed, and touched actually! everyone knew all the words! "you said you're cheap YOU COST TOO MUCH" pogo pogo pogo

i missed radio 4, thank god

g e o f f (gcannon), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Yep, it was great seeing them -- glad you had fun too, g e o f f. "Semi-wrecky" in my drunkpost above = they screwed up a couple of songs, Gill visibly annoyed; and yeah, the guitar sound wasn't quite as DESTROY as expected but still pretty fucking undeniable. Intentionally missed Radio 4 as well. I was in the front (stage right) thrashing like a mad thing (Rock Neck ahoy) so did not see much of the audience, but had a sense of restrained head-bobbing; good to know people were rocking. And they mentioned the poster of Sitting Bull as Land Lord that they sometimes used as backdrop in the old (pre-Clear Channel tour) days! "Touched," definitely -- it was an evening of (some of the) old-timey roots music encoded in my DNA, still powerful on its own merits. PLEASE SEND ME EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS.

box of socks, Friday, 13 May 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

The sound at the quest blows.

Gang of Four I thought were pretty fantasic...a few flubs, but what energy and just the sense of "wow this is what the REAL THING looks/sounds like"

radio 4 can eat a bag of bongo dicks.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link


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