Tindersticks : classic or dud

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actually i'd like a copy of this too. i'd hoped i might find one in a junk shop but no joy so far.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently it's 'The Red Strut' by JSR Clemente.

braveclub (braveclub), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Naff art from the tat gallery

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Total classic. FInally got hold of a copy of "Simple Pleasures." I've been wanting it for years. Pleasantly it is nearly devoid of Hinchcliffe's show stealing and often unnecessary violin caterwauling and so much the better for it.

kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

yup, it's their best.

amateurist, Saturday, 23 February 2008 09:17 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Dusted off their first two albums, reminded of why I loved them so much etc.
Also, their cover of Kathleen is something to die for.

Marco Damiani, Monday, 17 August 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

New Tindersticks, anyone as excited as I am?

Jacob Sanders, Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

^loved that film.

looking forward to a new tindersticks but it's a bit soon after the last one to actually get excited. i liked the last one a lot though.

jed_, Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Is that the one about the love doll? I did like that movie.

Jacob Sanders, Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I actually thought the last one was a career lowpoint. The loss of three members including Hinchcliffe did them no favours. I've been a fan since the early days, it was great to see them come back after the split but it's just not the same band I fell in love with anymore.

anagram, Friday, 8 January 2010 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Loved the last album after a while, this one's a disappointment. Two or three keepers and a lot of dreck.

Simon H., Friday, 8 January 2010 06:48 (fourteen years ago) link

the idea that i didn't know there was a new album makes me feel oddly sad. any details?

what's the film above?

djh, Friday, 8 January 2010 11:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Lars and the Real Girl but i'm not sure of its significance here.

jed_, Friday, 8 January 2010 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link

perhaps it's a pointer to stuart staples current image?

djh, Friday, 8 January 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link

the idea that i didn't know there was a new album makes me feel oddly sad. any details?

You're forgiven – we're getting ahead of ourselves here, it's not actually out yet. Release date 25/1 in Europe and 16/2 for the rest of the wide world.

anagram, Friday, 8 January 2010 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't believe i never contributed to this thread. the first album ruled my world when it came out, after that the returns diminished quickly. i didn't listen to anything past the third album, i think. what attracted me to them was a blood and flesh like quality of the music. i had not heard something like that before. perfect night time music. i also loved the length of the album. it must have been 78 minutes or so, every second of the cd format was used. and additionally there was no inessential song. after that it could only go downhill. i especially got bored by the singer's voice.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 January 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i didn't listen to anything past the third album, i think

Sadly for you, you jumped ship at just the wrong time. The fourth album is an absolute delight, brimful of short, snappy and soulful tunes. I love the first album as well but I wouldn't say there were no inessential songs on it. same goes for the second and third albums, both of which top 70 mins if I recall correctly.

anagram, Friday, 8 January 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

It's wasn't until Curtains that I really started loving the Tindersticks, Simple Pleasure, Can Our Love, and Waiting on the Man are my favorites. The Hungry Saw sounds almost uninspired, like band just wanted to put an album out. The new one didn't surprise me much either. Not as bad as the last one, but I guess they aren't the same band anymore.

Jacob Sanders, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah the fourth album is the best, i think. everything after that has been increasingly dull. some of it verging on self-parody (though honestly they were flirting with that with their 2nd album).

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

and yeah the big change for me was after they lost their drummer, who i think was the best thing about the band.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

first is still my favorite. a vague hazy late night bar concept album cohesion maybe based on the cover painting still haunts me the way only some isolated tracks do from the subsequent ones. and i could swear the national, especially the boxer, springs from the brow of that first one. not much difference in the vocal performance between and lyrical sentiment of say "city sickness" and "brainy"

kamerad, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

national have much more conventional Rock arrangements though. the whole "chamber pop" thing is a big part of what tindersticks were.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

People write off The Hungry Saw at their peril - it's really a pretty neat little album, not really much like any of the others but with lots of memorable songs and mood pieces ("The Other Side of the World," the title track, "Boobar," "The Organist Entertains.")

Simon H., Friday, 8 January 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

which is the 4th album? the last one i bought was curtains. i don't even remember listening to it. it was a big deception. always the same sound but without the enthusiasm, the pathos and the exuberance of the first album. just plain dull.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

the only time I hear em now is when I see a Claire Denis film.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

which is the 4th album?

Simple Pleasure. Naughty but nice cover shot.

anagram, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

they maybe have gone on too long but they haven't offended me in any way. they don't thrill me quite the way they did when the first album came out and it was all I listened to for a year.

akm, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

the new albums maybe would have been better presented as further stuart staples solo albums since thats what they kind of are (and I like his solo records also).

akm, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

The Hungry Saw is superb. one of their best records.

jed_, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link

new album out.

djh, Friday, 22 January 2010 10:45 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Anyone seen the Asphalt Ribbons album for sale recently?
Or have a copy for sale, either CD or vinyl?

djh, Monday, 26 April 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

this dude sings like Basehead

jeezy and the ayy-dog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

the national guy sings like this dude

kamerad, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

saw them last night in SF, accompanying segments of Claire Denis films as part of the SF International Film Festival. They aren't doing many of these shows so if they do another one near you, go, was exceptional.

akm, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.filmlinc.com/film-comment/article/claire-denis-and-tindersticks - review of clarie denis sdtks box

LOL @ "we all have our croissants to bear"

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 23 June 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

New song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v1eFVOj4is

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:08 (twelve years ago) link

What happened to Staples' voice? It sounds an octave higher. I dig the song though.

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 January 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

four weeks pass...

This album's terrific. Opening track 'Chocolate' is a clear descendent of 'My Sister' from the second album and has a wicked narrative twist. Staples' voice is sounding great too, less pub singer more proper crooner.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

I agree, it's a great album., The songs are just so much better than the last album, I'm really surprised by it!

Who's singing in Chocolate btw?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

Well, not singing, speaking. That's not Staples is it?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

it's David Boulter

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks! Do you rate the new album?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

Haven't heard it yet but they just announced two nights in a comfy theatre in my town so I'm very happy. tbh I'm still not 100% convinced by the post-breakup lineup but it's growing on me.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

<3 <3 <3 "This Fire Of Autumn"

lil kink (Matt P), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

there is a LOT on spotify. think it's gonna be a tindersticks monday tbh

lil kink (Matt P), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

I missed what happened with the break-up.

djh, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

Half of them left, including Dickon Hinchcliffe who was the violinist and strings arranger so was key to their sound. They regrouped with a new line-up. AFAIK none of them has ever spoken in public about what caused the split although Staples has made it pretty clear that they needed a new direction at that time. He might have fired them for all I know.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know if it's ironic that this "new direction" sounds like a return to old (great) form? It's why I like this album at least.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, had realised half the band had gone.

What I meant is that I hadn't heard anyone talk about it ... which is rare these days ... and perhaps dignified.

That said, I haven't heard much talk about Staples' facial hair either.

djh, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link


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