End of Cold War = End of Rock Music.
Simple.
― PhilK, Sunday, 28 October 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link
usually what Geir says is at least halfway sensible or (if nothing else) well-thought-out, but MCR better than "hip-hop" in general? nigga please.
off-topic: Geir, have you read the SFJ piece that's had a lot of discussion here lately?
― stephen, Sunday, 28 October 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link
He's commented on the thread about the SFJ piece, and is hoping the New Yorker (or at least some Scandinavian publication) will let him publish his rebuttal--"No Rock in 2007 is Melodic Enough---And Hip-hop and R'n'b Are to Blame"
― curmudgeon, Monday, 29 October 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
What do people get out of this 'emo' music anyway?
-- Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
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It's pop music Backstreet bullshit for kids from big cities who want to think they're 'hip' but lack the essential imagination to abandon the music of their parents.
-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
Um guys, good music can be found both on and off the charts, and dismissing entire genres is not exactly a strong way to make an argument.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 29 October 2007 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link
A lot of rock (and pop) in 2007 is melodic enough. Which is exactly what ILM'ers and SFJ are bitching about as they wish it was less melodic.
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 29 October 2007 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Naah, it's melodically drab too. A good melody is inseparable from a good rhythm anyway, due to the importance of phrasing.
― moley, Monday, 29 October 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link
lol curmudgeon we were just c+p'ing shit.
obviously one would need to listen to hours and hours of emo music before deciding it's all rubbish.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 29 October 2007 00:28 (sixteen years ago) link
are we really going to turn the first ever ilm thread - boring as it generally is - into another Argue-With-Geir-About-Something-He's-Already-Made-His-Mind-Up-About thread.
― J0hn D., Monday, 29 October 2007 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link
It's what kept ILM going through the years.
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 29 October 2007 00:50 (sixteen years ago) link
This is really the "first ever ilm thread"?
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 29 October 2007 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Songs About Quitting Your Job? is.
― Just got offed, Monday, 29 October 2007 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I just got fired, what should I listen to?
― The Reverend, Monday, 29 October 2007 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link
What are some recent-ish indie rock records that are actually worth hearing for someone who doesn't listen to this stuff anymore? I guess I want more art school kid indie rock (that ISN'T ANNOYING!) rather than indiepop, though tunes are a good thing sometimes too. No gimmicks unless they're really good ones. But not boring either.
― admrl, Sunday, 18 May 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I dunno. I mostly listen to astrology records.
― contenderizer, Sunday, 18 May 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Who are they? Do they sound like the pixies?
― admrl, Sunday, 18 May 2008 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I was hoping this would be an all-star tribute line-up with Steven Malkmus and Isaac Brock and Doug Martsch trading off verses, all like "Mother, mother..."
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 18 May 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I did a search, trying to find the rolling 2k11 thread, and stumbled upon this. I lol'd a bit to find out this is the first ILM thread. I just assumed it was a "Sun Ra - C/D" or a "Steely Dan - S/D" thread that started the madness.
― musicfanatic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link
u missed Songs About Quitting Your Job?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link
the rolling 2k11 thread you were looking for.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link
but seriously, did anyone see Reynols before they cancelled their tour? If anyone's gonna save indie, it's a band like that.
― Mangrove Earthshoe (herb albert), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link
lol reynols
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link
life goes on
― van smack, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 05:41 (thirteen years ago) link
obla-di obla-da
― van smack, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link
― Tom, Saturday, 26 August 2000 00:00 (10 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Damn!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
sadly, nothing has happened in indie rock since 26 august 2000 00:00.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
reynols jeez
― basedketball (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
none more indie. Reynols/No Reynols is the shit
props to Otis breaking down the Five Colleges w/ the old Scooby Doo analogy
― The indie rocker is the modern hippie, and the internet is his LSD (herb albert), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
emo existed back in 2000?
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yes
― basedketball (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJzAoxvWizw
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link
^good song but I tend to use EMO to describe nasally, whiny, childish, dramatic and/or flowery vox that really grate on me. And apparently I am more prone to hating these voices as apparent by various indie threads on ILM. Then again, even I like a few singers with nasally, whiny, childish, dramatic and/or flowery vox. Just not as many as everyone else.
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Heady days, heady days:http://www.fourfa.com/
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i find that when i speak to younger people (I'm 32) they have a wildly differing idea of what "emo" means than I do.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
!: http://xconditionedx.blogspot.com/2008/05/90s-emo.html
tylerw OTM
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
and then i'm like: "young people! let's get our emo facts right!"
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
'emo' should remain an insult imo. even in conjunction with music
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
how in the living hell is rye coaltion emo???
― basedketball (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i think i have a braid record on vinyl.
emo changed again after this thread. What generation of emo is it now?
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 14 August 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link
Did we really let the twentieth anniversary of this thread go entirely unmarked? I suppose we were all a little distracted.
― Matt DC, Monday, 31 August 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link
There's an analogy between the Five Colleges and Scooby-Doo, with each school a different character. Hampshire is Shaggy. Will Oldham is an alum; he's probably as close to the stereotypical Hampshire student as anyone (hyperintellectual, violently odd, stupidly pretentious).Sorry to correct 20-yr-old misinfo, but Oldham didn’t go to Hampshire. (He attended Brown, but didn’t graduate)
― “Pizza House!” (morrisp), Monday, 31 August 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link
(Maybe this was pointed out later in the thread, I stopped reading at that point)
― “Pizza House!” (morrisp), Monday, 31 August 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link
Lol
― Two Little Hit Parades (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 August 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
they were probably mixed up with Elliot Smith.
Tom's blog from the first post is still archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20001206155500/http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~tewing/2000_08_20_singlesa.html
Apparently the offending emo bands were Get Up Kids and Samiam.
― peace, man, Monday, 31 August 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link
what is indie rock's "What's Going On"
― life is beauitul (rip van wanko), Monday, 31 August 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
^"Float On"
― “Pizza House!” (morrisp), Monday, 31 August 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link