Scritti Politti: Classic Or Dud

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I used to have a rare 12" of a toasting version of "The Word Girl" by Tippa Irie or someone which I bitterly regret losing, if anyone by any chance has a digital version of it I'd be eternally grateful.

rwillmsen (rwillmsen), Sunday, 27 February 2005 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link

The toasting's by Ranking Ann. It's on the cd version of Cupid & Psyche.

robertw, Sunday, 27 February 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

cupid and psyche is one of my favorite albums ever. it's so bright and shiny and capitalist sounding. it reminds me of nyc for some reason. every once in awhile i'll pull it out and it turns into a brief obsession of superlatives in my head. i haven't heard any other scritti albums though.

basquiat (disco stu), Sunday, 27 February 2005 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Love love love them. Have had C+S since it came out, first on casette and then on CD, one of the few bands I have continued to be a fan of from early teen years.

Say, I have a 7" pressing of "Jacques Derrida/Asylums in Jerusalem", and of "Faithless" (both Rough Trade original pressings) - would they be worth anything at all? I always figured not really.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 28 February 2005 00:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Put C+S'85 and a few songs off Provision on a cd the other day and it was
so great to listen to them again. God, I love(d) that band. The arrangements and production still awe me.

One of my best memories from my last job (recording studio) was telling Tawatha Agee, Fonzi Thornton and BJ Nelson (background vocalists) how much I loved them on the Scritti records (among others). They seemed pretty amazed I knew about their work on them.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 28 February 2005 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I was going to play "Songs to remember" in the car this morn,off the minidisc I made (with the 12" Faithless substituted). But I left it at home.

MG, Monday, 28 February 2005 10:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I just heard "Jacques Derrida" for the first time last night, and have since downloaded some other songs, and Scritti Politti sounds almost nothing like what I'd expected. I was thinking something very much along the lines of the Human League or Depeche Mode.

Closer to Steely Dan or something (not exactly of course). The singing is way more palatable than I'd expected.

It's really weird that I somehow never knowingly heard anything by SP, considering how much college radio I was listening to at the time they would have been active.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"Jacques Derrida" sounds like Simon and Garfunkel and the Beatles (and others), but also like nothing else.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes.

p.s. Dat Da Dat da do be do hoo hoo

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Is anyone else the proud owner of Scritti Politti - Early. I just picked it up today and it's my first exposure to the band.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 12 March 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

No one ever said if my 7" singles were worth owt :(

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 12 March 2005 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link

They are worth owt.

mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 12 March 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Also ILM please STFU about Scritti Politti. It's annoying to read about this poncy 25-years-ago band over and over. Thanks.
-- KENNY LOG IN (____________...) (webmail), March 15th, 2005 1:07 PM. (link)

(From the Alex NYC KJ fixation thread.)

How annoying, exactly?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 17 March 2005 08:58 (nineteen years ago) link

300 new posts by tomorrow please

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

i know it's cheeky to request outside of request threads but can anyone mail me 'She's A Woman' if they have it? yes i am aware it is rub

Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not rubbish - I'll take it any day over the original.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Thursday, 17 March 2005 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I like this thread.

mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

So did most people GET Green's post-structuralist tricks in 1985 or did he have to explain it to them? How big was the album in the US? I remember hearing "Perfect Way" back then and just loving that twitchy beat and synth-bass; it took me years for me to marvel how he'd managed to smuggle "interrogative" into a pop song.

The album hit #50. Provision topped at #113. "Perfect Way" was #11, "Wood Beez" #91 or something like that, and "Boom! There She Was" made it to #54 or somewhere around there.

Is anyone else the proud owner of Scritti Politti - Early. I just picked it up today and it's my first exposure to the band.
Bought it as soon as it came out. Went straight to Vinyl Fever after school and bounced like I was on a pogo stick when I had it in my hands. I ended up buying another copy later on that day at another store (as I had pre-ordered it but they didn't tell me it was in yet) and gave it to my friend Courtney because she is the only person I know around here who'd appreciate it and I wanted to share the experience with someone I knew. She quite loves it. "Doubt Beat" makes her smile.

"Jacques Derrida" sounds like Simon and Garfunkel and the Beatles (and others), but also like nothing else.
To me it starts out like a gentler version of The Monochrome Set before exploding into something that seems to have been left off of Prince's Dirty Mind for not being sparse enough.

Say, I have a 7" pressing of "Jacques Derrida/Asylums in Jerusalem", and of "Faithless" (both Rough Trade original pressings) - would they be worth anything at all? I always figured not really.
Fuck, keep those, they're fabulous. I certainly wouldn't sell them!

What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Best Voice Ever

Not Even Better Than George Michael

(OK, the "Wood Beez" vocal is pretty good.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 10 August 2006 06:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Reynolds on Cupid and Psyche 85 era music: "A mosaic of hyper-syncopations and micro-rhythmic intricacies."

Totally overblown overstatement.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 10 August 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I really love "Cupid & Psyche" and the underrated "Provision". As for "Songs To Remember", I do like "The Sweetest Girl", but I still think Madness did it better.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 10 August 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I was pondering your love for the album, actually! It is not all that "melodic." Sounds maybe like average '80s soul/R&B album filler compositions (though I like the two singles OK).

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 10 August 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

There isn't an older album I've heard this year more often than CAP '85. Reread Simon, Tim: he's quite ambivalent about Mega Pop Green, which makes his advocacy of White Belly Black Beer curious.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Looking at it again, I find that section peculiar (end of Ch. 21 in the UK edition). Everything is praised and spun positively until the end when it is all questioned on political (and presumably aesthetic also) grounds.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds maybe like average '80s soul/R&B album filler compositions

OK, no. Sorry - listening to it for the first times after buying a copy for a dollar. Am not the biggest lyrics guy in the world. Listening to it for the second time while paying attention to the lyrics (which I didn't do first time), the compositions "sunk in" more.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 August 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

five years pass...

We got a bit carried away (assuming it would sell out instantly and at most one of us would succeed in getting tickets) and bought one more pair than we needed for the Thursday night of this:

http://www.scritti.net/

So if anyone wants two tickets at face value, let me know.

toby, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

Go on I'll have em...not likely to see Scritti at a venue this small in a hurry...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

Cool - webmail sent.

toby, Thursday, 3 November 2011 06:41 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

Scritti are playing live with Michael Clarke at the Tramway in Glasgow for his new work.... i got tickets for two of the three nights, i thought all three would be excessive.

The Work is on at the Barbican too from the 17th-27th of october but I can't confirm Scritti's live presence that night.

jed_, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

those nights, rather.

jed_, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Do you have a link?

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

via the Tramway facebook page:

Really exciting news just announced: Scritti Politti will be performing live as part of Michael Clark Company’s world premiere performance of New Work 2012 at Tramway next week - can't wait!

http://www.tramway.org/events/Pages/Michael-Clark-Company-New-Work-2012.aspx

no confirmation one way or the other re the barbican shows.

jed_, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

i know that this work has been in development for a while, including a dry-run (sort of) in glasgow earlier this month. scritti composed part of the score for this dry-run but on those shows the score was played over a PA. they'll be playing live in glasgow with michael clarke but (i've just checked) they are on tour at the time of the barbican shows so live sets there on any of the nights are unlikely.

jed_, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Ah shite, I'm in London then.

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

When I heard "Perfect Day" on the oldies station a couple weeks ago I made ridiculous hand movements and head thrusts sitting in traffic.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

I was thinking The Saints there.

That's not my fault, it's Perfect Way, innit?

Mark G, Thursday, 27 September 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

He's playing with Saint Etienne in December too, glad to see that he's finally got over his stage fright.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 27 September 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

i met GG last night. so cool. he looks truly amazing for 57. if i didn't know who he was and was told he was early 40s i would believe it easily.

jed_, Sunday, 7 October 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

Okay so, I know hongro-bashing can seem pretty played-out, but this:

Old music is usually better than recent music. At least it has been during the past 15 years.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 March 2003 23:43 (9 years ago) Permalink


is pure gold

beta male misogyny is here to stay (bernard snowy), Sunday, 7 October 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Was in the car with a friend (who, in her defense, has a real job and is very busy and hasn't bought new music in 15 years and generally only listens to music in the car on the way to and from important clients). "Perfect Way" came on the satellite '80s station, and she absolutely freaked out ... negatively! She said it sucked, could be Milli Vanilli (name similarity just occurred to me), etc., and I was absolutely floored that anyone could hate that song but also by the difficulty of conveying what makes the band special, how its polish is partly what makes it subversive, how its nods to hip-hop and NYC's avant scene were subtly radical, how the lyrics were sometimes so smart and clever it was easy to miss how smart and clever they sometimes were. All that stuff. Just a tough band to capsule to someone who only knows them from that one song which blends together with all those other one-songs from that period of the '80s.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 26 January 2014 14:38 (ten years ago) link

This bump made me play "Hypnotize" on repeat all day yday

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 January 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link

why only yesterday

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Monday, 27 January 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link

CONTINUE

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Monday, 27 January 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link

I had work today.

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link

I remember my ex flipping out about the video years ago and me thinking "Eh, it's not bad" and then I rewatched it yday and I was like "HOLY SHIT THIS IS AWESOME"

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link

I love it when lazy, half-assed stuff winds up being unintentionally brilliant.

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link

even at the time "Perfect Way" sounded baroque: until Jam-Lewis a few months later it was the hardest thing on pop radio. And Gartside snuck "I'll forget how to remember with you" and "I took a back seat/a back hander" into a pop song

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link

My w was "It's a bit too lovey-dovey" but hey. I think she preferred the Skank Bloc stuff, Which is fair enough, I do too.

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link

Wonder if we'll get a new album from him soon? Already eight years since White Bread Black Beer.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:35 (ten years ago) link

I met him, did i mention that? ha. he was huge and beautiful.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:21 (ten years ago) link


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