― joseph (joseph), Sunday, 24 April 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 24 April 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Dinner itself was great but I quickly got a sense of how informal it would be in relative terms in that not only was every line of the reading interrupted by a snarky comment from everyone else in the family other than the dad, who seemed somehow world-weary and pleased at the same time (I can still hear his half-sighed "Baruch Adonai"), but Steve's younger brother attended wearing a Red Hot Chili Peppers shirt. In itself perhaps merely quizzical to some eyes, but the fact that it portrayed a naked illustration of Madonna raised my eyebrows a touch.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link
**manischewitz wine = it's like the jewish night train.**
Jayzus Xist I can't stop laughing at this.
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 25 April 2005 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Also AaronK WTF I thought that baking powder shit was no good for Passover!
― quincie, Monday, 25 April 2005 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link
every few years i try a little just to make sure i don't like it, and i don't like it! sweet noodles = one of those bridges i don't think i'll ever get across.
― my friend flicka (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link
passover is the one religious holiday i think is pretty neat, all told
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link
sweet noodle kugel is fucking awesome. i dont know what you all are on. it's creamy and eggy and sweet, and sometimes has cherries in it.
my potato kugel turned out KICK ASS, btw, and it's great with sour cream. I turned the heat down to about 300 for the last hour, as it looked like the top was getting a bit too brown (wasnt). whatever it was, it's soft and potatoey and tasty.
― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 25 April 2005 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
I personally prefer the sweet kugel, which is the equivalent of growing up in the Bronx, spitting in Biggie's face and tattooing "THUG LIFE" on my chest.
I fucked up already -- at the Rhythm and Sound show yesterday, the bathroom attendant had a jar of candies and I took a Werther's Original on my way out. About ten minutes later, I realized what I'd done. Jeeeeez.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 25 April 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 April 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
http://users.rsise.anu.edu.au/~fergus/wallpaper/lightning/800/lightning_2.800.jpg
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 25 April 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 25 April 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― quincie, Monday, 25 April 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link
My mom bought me a bunch of matzah bagels (the GOOD kind that taste not unlike actual bread). Fittingly, I forgot to bring them home with me. I also meant to take one of her boxes of matzah for making fried matzah one night, but I forgot that too (and I can't find any near where I live). Fortunately, I did bring home some chicken, gefilte fish, and a few sweets.
So essentially, this will be a no carbs week for me (potatoes excepted). Which is perhaps a good thing, because I've been overdoing it on the carbs over the last few months. Except this means I CAN'T GET FULL.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Did anyone on ILX keep Passover besides me?
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 1 May 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 1 May 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
last night, my parents made pasta with dinner because "there's nothing about it in Leviticus"
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 1 May 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
also, i used the sephardic custom (im half israeli, so its ok too, hah) of rice/beans/corn being ok. except basically it just meant that i had like, soda and stuff with corn syrup in it. i never got around to having rice or beans. actually, it worked out really well. i made my matzo lasagne, that went over well, lots of fried matza, and tons of fruit. easiest year yet. still, saturday night i went out to get the now customary pizza.
― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
I did Sephardic Passover one year when I felt like going out for nachos one night.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 2 May 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 2 May 2005 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 2 May 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― reno sweeney (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
These are somewhat rhetorical questions, since Hurting's Rule #1 applies.
I had gefilte fish with my lunch four times this week. How can anyone not like the stuff?
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― reno sweeney (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 2 May 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link
my aunt called tonight asking where everyone was as she had prepared her usual enough food for two dozen people meals
my mother: 'um, passover starts TOMORROW night"aunt: ' oh"
she called her daughter-in-law and is told the same thing
so now who knows what's going on
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Rather than bread, I think I'll end Passover with an assload of beer. That worked out really well last year.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 16 April 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Isn't this pretty inconsequential in light of crab being non-kosher?
― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 16 April 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― WhiskeyBanjoFishbutt (Jeff), Sunday, 16 April 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 April 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link
What food is not kosher for Passover and why?
Answer
The Torah instructs a Jew not to eat (or even possess) chometz all seven days of Passover (Exodus 13:3). "Chometz" is defined as any of the five grains (wheat, spelt, barley, oats, and rye) that came into contact with water for more than 18 minutes. This is a serious Torah prohibition, and for that reason we take extra protective measures on Passover to prevent any mistakes.
Which brings us to another category of food called "kitniyot" (sometimes referred to generically as "legumes"). This includes rice, corn, soy beans, string beans, peas, lentils, peanuts, mustard, sesame seeds and poppy seeds. Even though kitniyot cannot technically become chometz, Ashkenazi Jews do not eat them on Passover. Why?
The Smak (Rabbi Moshe of Kouchi, 13th century, France) explains that products of kitniyot appear like chometz products. For example, it can be hard to distinguish between rice flour (kitniyot) and wheat flour (chometz). Therefore, to prevent confusion, all kitniyot was prohibited.
The Beit Yosef (Rabbi Yosef Karo, 16th century, Israel) notes that grains may become mixed together with kitniyot, and one may inadvertently come to eat actual chometz.
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In Jewish law, there is one important distinction between chometz and kitniyot. During Passover, it is forbidden to even have chometz in one's possession (hence the custom of "selling chometz"). Whereas it is permitted to own kitniyot during Passover and even to use it - not for eating - but for things like baby powder which contains cornstarch. Similarly, someone who is sick is allowed to take medicine containing kitniyot.
Interestingly, the Sefardi Jewish community does not have a prohibition against kitniyot. This creates the strange situation, for example, where a Sefardi family could be eating rice on Passover - whereas their Ashkenazi neighbors will not!
What about derivatives of kitniyot - e.g. corn oil, peanut oil, etc? This is a difference of opinion. Many will use kitniyot- based oils on Passover, while others are strict and only use olive or walnut oil.
Finally, there is one product called "quinoa" (pronounced "ken- wah" or "kin-o-ah") that is permitted on Passover even for Ashkenazim. Although it resembles a grain, it is technically a grass, and was never included in the prohibition against kitniyot. It is prepared like rice and has a very high protein content. (It's excellent in "chollent" stew!) You should be able to find it at most health food stores. Of course, it needs to be from a closed container that is new for Pesach.
Some other things - like chestnuts and alfalfa sprouts were not included in the original prohibition of Kitniot.
To learn more, see Maimonides - Laws of Chometz and Matzah 5:1; Code of Jewish Law - OC 453; Igros Moshe OC 3:63.
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 April 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link
I didn't realize that. But if you're eating unkosher food that prepared kosher for passover aren't you still doing wrong?
― WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 17 April 2006 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, I followed the rules of Passover (no shrimp during Passover, or any other time of the year for that matter) but I wasn't consistent with my usual habits (I like shrimp). If the shrimp had been breaded, it would have been a different story. OTOH, I don't buy kosher meat so you could argue that the chicken I ate tonight is just as unkosher as the shrimp I passed up over the weekend.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:17 (eighteen years ago) link
most jews in america don't keep kosher. but passover is a religious holiday and a lot of jewish people want to do something ceremonial to keep those ties to their roots. so they do the "kosher for passover" thing and fast on yom kippur and go on with their lives. i don't think it's particularly hypocritical. it's about having a couple of days out of the year where you recognize those old-world traditions.
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:16 (eighteen years ago) link
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― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 April 2006 09:39 (eighteen years ago) link
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― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 17 April 2006 10:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
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― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link