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― ailsa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
but arguing whether it's horrible or not - the cleverness is shoving shakespeare into it hence we might be looking for a quote from a play. when all it's for is 'will'. and if you can get 'flattery' from the first part of the clue you're away with 'flattery will...'
love him or hate him you'll miss him when he goes (viz. bunthorne)
― do you want to be happier? (whatever), Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
you trust google? xp
― do you want to be happier? (whatever), Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, I am being entirely serious.
― ailsa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I like the first "Tyre problem - the same..." bit, but it's a totally unwieldy clue overall.
― krakow, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the phrase is "anywhere", not "everywhere".
― krakow, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
"nowhere".
― this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, that's the really common one, but the clue says acceptance of sweet talk, so it's the everywhere/anywhere thing. I'm going with the Mae West version of "everywhere".
― ailsa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
but the clue says acceptance of sweet talk, so it's the everywhere/anywhere thing
yes but the letter count is the thing
― do you want to be happier? (whatever), Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
In terms of usage, not in terms of it being the answer!
― ailsa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
This is why I have problems doing the UK puzzles, these clues that some people think are really clever and that others just groan at.
― Garnet Memes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 September 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Hilarious, I lifted it from elsewhere...they obviously lifted it from the Radio Times. I am shocked and scandalised by this sign depravity in the cryptic crossword industry.
― menelaus, Monday, 21 September 2009 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Ailsa otm - I got it from the letter count but thought it was a sucky clue as "everywhere" is by far the more common usage.
― astronimo domino (onimo), Monday, 21 September 2009 09:07 (fourteen years ago) link
The Radio Times is (or was, when I was still living with my parents and reading their copy every week) about the only crossword I stand a chance of completing, sadly. Sent it off every week for a couple of years but never won anything - guess that's one publication whose stereotypical readership would include a lot of active crossword-completers...
I used to do OK with some of the setters at the Independent too but I wouldn't pay money for an Indy these days so this thread is pretty much my only source of crosswords. Sometimes sneak a look at the Graun website crossword at work but they look too unlike work for extended contemplation.
I would never have got that Araucaria in a million years, still not entirely sure which bits are which even now it's been explained. And yeah, put me down in the camp which has always heard "everywhere".
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 21 September 2009 09:24 (fourteen years ago) link
"Tyre problem - the same by Shakespeare (I'm amazed at your boast!) when year off - brings humourous acceptance of sweet talk (8, 4, 3, 3, 8)"
"tyre problem" - I think "problem" is being used twice, to indicate a problem with the tyre (it's flat) and to indicate an anagram of flat tyre = flattery
the same by - no idea what this bit does
Shakespeare = will
(I'm amazed at your boast!) = get you!
when year off - anagram of "when year" = anywhere
humourous acceptance of sweet talk = Flattery will get you everywhere (doh!)
― astronimo domino (onimo), Monday, 21 September 2009 09:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh! Thanks onimo. I didn't get the "get you", but now I do indeed get you. Might otherwise have got "when year off" if I hadn't been too bewildered by the rest of the clue to get there.
From above posts, "tyre problem - the same" is supposed to unpack to "tyre problem = flat, tyre problem -> tyre, anag" but my hat is off to anyone who actually worked that out from the clue.
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 21 September 2009 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I used to do OK with some of the setters at the Independent too but I wouldn't pay money for an Indy these days
I guess you wouldn't stoop to The Telegraph either, but theirs is pretty easy these days. They often seem to be based around a particular clue type - an excess of anagrams, or hidden words, or first/last letter clues.
― this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Monday, 21 September 2009 10:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I had a cheerful lunchtime a while ago with a pub copy of the Telegraph, going "if THIS was the right answer it'd be a bit of a shit clue, but it fits, so I'm putting it down!" with the first word to spring to mind for each clue, and then finding that after 20 of these everything actually still fitted together and therefore presumably was right (or I was even more pissed than I thought)
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 21 September 2009 11:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Played in the round = Music of the Spheres.
I've never tried cluing, so will also pass, or postpone.
New to this thread. I've given up almost all crosswords now (I sometimes do Azed, just because I like the insane vocab/nicely clued way it works) but used to try the Guardian most days. I enjoyed its wild variability in difficulty. Just spending hours with a friend staring at Enigmatist clues, crawling towards some kind of answer.
Love Araucaria (between him and Paul for my favourite setter), but the surface sense of that clue is hideous, and the phrase in my head would be 'get you everywhere'.
Spacecadet otm with the Telegraph solving experience.
― woofwoofwoof, Monday, 21 September 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, "Music of the Spheres".
Yes, love Araucaria and the mechanics of the clue are excellent but strained surface sense = bad clue.
Telegraph has always been the easiest broadsheet as far as I remember, tho the early weekdays in the Graun used to be pretty dull too.
― Halt! Fergiezeit (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 September 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
"tyre problem - the same" = tyre problem tyre problem = flat tery = flattery
i.e. I took "the same" to mean "tyre problem" is repeated, the first time as flat the second as an anagram of tyre.
― krakow, Monday, 21 September 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i missed that detail krakow, nice one.
ailsa i was close to agreeing with you, but it didn't sound right with 'everywhere'
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,360,000 for flattery will get you anywhereResults 1 - 10 of about 219,000 for flattery will get you everywhere
― do you want to be happier? (whatever), Monday, 21 September 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Is that different from what I posted because you didn't use quote marks, therefore not searching for the quote? Which was by Mae West, and quite famous?
― ailsa, Monday, 21 September 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
could be. i didn't use quotes and my browser fills up with suggestions along the way. everywhere comes in way below anywhere. but 'everything' comes in at only slightly less than anywhere.
didn't know it was a mae west quote.
― do you want to be happier? (whatever), Monday, 21 September 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Should read your google results then :-)
(also where I mentioned it already upthread)
― ailsa, Monday, 21 September 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I think we're getting bogged down with this and need to move on. More clues!
― krakow, Monday, 21 September 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Detective without hesitation takes a year to find moneylender (7)
― this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link
investor
― thomp, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry, that's totally wrong, isn't it
― thomp, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link
you didn't think it through
― this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Shylock
― Jimenez, Jio, Giovannagetti, and Doug (onimo), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
ok if that's right i'm completely nonplussed.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
sherlock less 'er' plus y
i was too hung up on trying to make investigator -> investor work : |
― thomp, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
One day i'll write a tough clue.
― this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:23 (fourteen years ago) link
is mine so bad no one's going to attempt it? :(
― thomp, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link
repost pls thomp
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link
single father (spooner's) used to be horse made of fruitcake (4,3,1,6,5)
― thomp, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link
jeez sorry i asked
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link
papa was a rollin stone, on a whim
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
yerp
― thomp, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link
it's stollen roan, isn't it
― this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link
o_O
― this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
:D
yeah sometimes genius is very close to just bein a smartarse imo, so there.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
you are both correct. whose turn is it?
― thomp, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Sold stolen goods electronically around protection system (7)
― Jimenez, Jio, Giovannagetti, and Doug (onimo), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link
defence? e-fenced?
― thomp, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
got as far as fence.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
defence is correct - anagram of e-fenced. Figured you could say electronically and add an e onto any transaction in this day and age.
― Jimenez, Jio, Giovannagetti, and Doug (onimo), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link