Joe Suck & Dim Tim: The FOX SPORTS IS SATAN thread

Oh, these two.

Given Buck's encomium to Vin Scully last night, I'm sure he and McC will happily slip out of the booth if the Dodgers make the WS to let Vin handle the broadcasts, solo?

DON'T WANNA HEAR 2 MINUTES ON THIS WEEKEND'S NFL SHIT DURING A FUCKING WORLD SERIES INNING

http://www.cornerstorkbabygifts.com/images/product/mute-button.jpg

Switch to the SAP feed. The Spanish announcers make more sense to this gringo.

The local sports talk guys were absolutely ripping into Buck this morning. It was great.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-kaus/broadcast-sports-buck-and_b_136056.html

http://www.salon.com/sports/daily/feature/2008/10/23/game_1_notes/

I don't know about you but I still don't know what Maddon was talking about when he said Hamels "doesn't read." I suspect McCarver doesn't know either. It's entirely possible Welke doesn't know, though he said he understood. His reply didn't address the "reader" business.

If McCarver didn't know, he should have said, "I don't know." And then Fox should have had one of its two sideline reporters, Ken Rosenthal or Chris Myers, ask Maddon what he meant and report back.

last night Smug Joe repeats McC's error that Ruiz was born in Venezuela. Where's the producer?

Phillies upset about World Series introductions

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3662873

Fox Sports spokesman Dan Bell said that since the 2004 World Series Fox has only broadcast the starting lineups. He said it was a joint decision between Major League Baseball and the network to try and get to the first pitch faster during the broadcast.

Bbbut we were told the ratings go up as it gets later in the night...?

There was a great article on BP a couple weeks ago on McCarver's assertion that, re Mauer's uniqueness, catchers' BAs tend to fall later in the game and later in the season. Actually, says the data, NO.

Also this interview with Fox's MLB producer, who reveals that the reason OBP isn't shown onscreen for the batter is that Tim doesn't like the stat:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9401

Howie Rose doing excellent job of filling in with Buck-level stupidity: Mets need to GET MORE DIRTY-UNIFORM PLAYERS LIKE SHANE VICTORINO

http://www.amazon.com/McCarver-Sings-Selections-American-Songbook/dp/B002OJGGH6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1252919362&sr=1-1

hey, they're actually showing NY the Twins-Tigers instead of a meaniningless Cards-Cubs game! How'd this happen?

Steven Goldman re the Dim Tim album:

I really, really hate to alert McCarver to the fact that "A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square" is not part of the American Songbook, though Americans have sung it. It was written by two British fellows and made famous by Vera Lynn, the same chanteuse who is presently keeping the reissued Beatles CDs off the top of the charts in Great Britain.

The Amazon page has audio clips now!

Did McCarver just say that nobody had better muscle memory than Dwight Halladay?

he also insinuated that pelfrey is a better pitcher than cole hamels (and a borderline #1 starter!) in the inning where he comes up 6 runs

hey tim stop sucking pedroias dick

followed up by referring to the yankees singing sabathia as a "shrewd" move.

Hey why don't we go get one of the best pitchers in baseball and pay him a gazillion dollars?

Hmm, that would be pretty shrewd, let's do it.

this moment of silence is awesome.

hey, NL baseball to keep everyone (?) awake.

Who was silence for?

robin roberts probably?

I figured, but Phillie game wasnt on here til Boston rain delay.

roberts and the tigers announcer, forget his name

Ernie Harwell.

You heathen.

did anyone else catch the part where he was talking about Carlton Fisk and the famous game 6 home run. then describes a yankee Francisco Cervelli RBI as "and Carlton Fisk is very proud of this young man Cervelli, and his maturation as a catcher."

why would he be proud with no involvement in the organization? and why did Fisk drive all the way home to New Hampshire after the game 6 shot? did his dad die or something?

cervelli is making everyone proud

ive heard that story abt fisk but i cant recall the details

Joe Suck: The fans have done a great job voting Jason Heyward into the All-Star OF.

No and you suck.

And fuck your NBA analogies.

Joe: Does Strasburg deserve to be in the All-Star game, with only 4 starts under his belt?
Tim: Strasburg has three starts left before the All-Start game. I'll tell you what, Joe. If he wins all three of those games, then he deserves to be in. And if he doesn't win all three of those games, but his ERA is still around the 2.00 mark, then he probably deserves to be in.

Tim (about 20 seconds later): This may be an overstatement, but I'm gonna say it anyway: if Stephen Strasburg isn't in the All-Star game, it will be an INJUSTICE to America, to America and baseball.

whaa?

can't wait to see R.A. Dickey and Carlos Silva take on the AL's finest in the ASG

oh why god did they let tommy lasorda and reggie jackson in the both with tim and joe

I turned it off right there. I have limits.

^^^awesome

Kevin Millar almost makes me long for McCarver

100x worse: Joe Simpson has this series off, so the Braves team is Chip Caray + Ron Gant. Gant is so nervous, he can't keep himself from just jabbering nonstop. And Caray is awful as usual.

OK, Millar's Marv Albert impression is worse.

Tim McCarver backtracked Monday from the comparison he made Saturday between the Yankees’ treatment of Joe Torre’s legacy as manager to the way World War II despots, “primarily in Russia and Germany,” airbrushed former generals out of photographs “after they had shot ’em.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/sports/baseball/20bats.html

Ben Lindbergh of BP: "With a cold, Joe Buck sounds only slightly less like he wants to be broadcasting a baseball game than usual."

This guy doing the Braves-Giants game with Karros has such a strong lisp! It's weird that that's not an impediment to broadcasting if you have good timbre and can jabber on without saying "uh".

Must be Josh Lewin, who's far more tolerable than most of the others. Not sure why he's not doing the Rangers games anymore.

Yeah, it's Lewin. He's ok (by Fox standards).

i like lewin

karros blamed panda being fat on late night snacking

Lewin got canned because Nolan Ryan didn't like him, supposedly. Dumb move, his replacement (John Rhadigan) is terrible.

what the FUCK are these bozos saying? howbout just "we think Posada might quit after rhe game"?

I assume the league and the Yanks could figure out some sort of real punishment against Fox if they were more explicit, but Fox could spill it obliquely.

Joe Buck declared that the Mets won't be re-signing Reyes, obviously, bacause of their financial problems that he's read about. Such a turdsucker.

they're gonna re-sign reyes?

do you think it's a fait accompli that they're not? suddenly they're the A's?

i just can't deal with Joe Buck's strained efforts at caring, the energy he brings is at the same level as if he was moderately interested in the fact Men's Wearhouse is having a big weekend sale.

Smoltz is much worse than Buck these days, which is weird because I don't remember disliking him on TBS.

smoltz fucking blows

i can't stand people who are vehemently anti-intellectual about fucking BASEBALL

annoyingly laid out, but accurate: https://www.dodgerthoughts.com/2018/10/24/thoughts-about-john-smoltz-in-five-parts

(caveat: anyone who writes Whenever a manager or a front office or an owner puts a team on the field in a baseball game, the goal is to win. obviously doesn't watch many pirates or marlins games)

Joe Buck last night let us know the number of intentional walks handed to the Red Sox in the first game of the world series. That number? At time of writing it stands at 2.

FG chat again:

Mike:

Joe buck continues to believe that the team with the highest walk rate, lowest swing rate and highest pitches per pa in MLB are an aggressive bunch of hackers because they hit 235 home runs.

@EricFisherSBJ
MLB and Fox Sports, as expected, announce a multiyear rights extension that will keep the World Series, All-Star Game, and ~half of the playoffs on Fox networks. Starting in '22, more games on Fox broadcast network. Deal also has expanded streaming, highlight and social rights

@EricFisherSBJ
Industry sources say MLB’s new rights deal w Fox Sports is a 7-yr deal covering the 2022-28 seasons and is worth about $5.1B, about a 50 percent bump from the current term.

@EricFisherSBJ
Also expect Joe Buck and John Smoltz to be a part of Fox MLB coverage as long as they want to. With regard to Buck particularly, Shanks said, "I can't imagine Fox baseball without Joe Buck."

failures of imagination by powerful men are what got us to this hell world

“How do you change the narrative?” There is no narrative. They’re the players, John. They play the game and are judged by the score.

— Joe Sheehan (@joe_sheehan) October 18, 2019

AP:

Fox will be taking viewers out to the ballgame by adding a virtual crowd in parks during its baseball telecasts this season.

The network revealed on Thursday that it will include computer-generated fans in the stands beginning with their three games on Saturday. Fox begins its coverage with Milwaukee at the Chicago Cubs, followed by San Francisco at Los Angeles Dodgers, and concluding with the New York Yankees at Washington.

Simulacra and Simulation

joe buck leaving fox for espn!

i’m sure it’s for an incredible amount of money but i’m still surprised