Community, the tv show

(and is probably less representative of ccs than the show. but still, main idea, you really can't generalize + it's probably good that they're getting *some* sort of pop culture rep)

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I spent a summer at a community college getting a few credits out of the way, and I must say that I did not have a favorable impression of the experience. Sorry guys!

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I also went to a community college in CA for the first two years of my degree! Now I work at a community college in OR, and people cry when I tell them I was paying $11 a unit compared to the $81 a unit they're charging here.

two years off cc for the basics seems like not a bad idea - also watching and discussing this show - it is funny

I trust ice cr?m's taste; going to dl

did u see any 'glee' yet ice cr?m?

Glee is 50% good, 50% terrible, sometimes at the same time.

that's what I'm into

I'm sort of embarrassed about currently attending a community college, not because I'm attending a community college, but because when people ask me what I'm learning I honestly have to say "not much." If I didn't need something official looking to put on my resume, I could've saved a lot of money just teaching myself at home.

It's for this reason I will not only be NOT offended if this show skewers the community college experience, but I was actively derive joy from it!

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Is it "not learning anything" because the classes are poorly taught, or because they require you to take a bunch of general ed bullshit before you can get to your chosen subject? I have students complain to me all the time about the uselessness of general ed, but ultimately they'd be taking the same classes for way more money at a four-year.

the classes are poorly taught

I'm in the digital media/tv production program, which is basically run by two instructors at different campuses who absolutely hate each other. Whatever one teaches, the other debunks. After all that is through, it's basically playtime when it comes to studio production and editing projects. Basically, they tell you how to turn on the computer and open up Adobe Premiere (which isn't even industry standard software) and then advise the best they know how, which is limited in all respects.

The worst thing is, the college has a completely digital hi-def PBS station right there, and they won't let students anywhere near it. We're using a studio with equipment that's, no lie, from the 1970s.

in my experience (classes at a pretty well funded california cc) there was a large spectrum of teacher quality. but overall, what you get out of a class also sorta depends on the students (teachers often teach to the lowest common denominator + you learn through class discussions / study groups.) and this is where the cc classes I took were significantly worse than the classes at my srs 4 year school. they tended to be worse than my public hs AP classes too.

xpost Ugh, that's awful. The students I work with gravitate toward the humanities or medical/nursing programs, which run really well at my CC, but I've heard similar accounts of, like, blind incompetence in certain Computer Science classes.

part of the problem (not to get all shop talk on you, but...) is that cc teachers are usually people who have other jobs and teach "for a little extra cash"
adjunct instructors (sometimes up to 75% of the instructors at a CC are adjunct) are often blase because:

they are not teachers by trade
are often not given the training or tools to be effective teachers
are not paid very well for their time/expertise
are often required to do things that are beyond their range of skills, like writing a syllabus*

that said, there are a lot of great teachers out there at CCs (ahem), but there are a lot of craptacular ones too for the aforementioned reasons

*note: this is not always true, but it's true more than more than most students at CCs realize

Ok I'm watching the show and this bears no resemblance to my life at all aside from the woman who referenced her babysitter.

These people all talk to each other. As iatee referenced above, almost nobody in my classes talks to each other.

It must be said, John Oliver is the funniest thing in this show.

It must also be said that whatsherface really doesn't look all that much like Elizabeth Shue.

Where are the nonnative speakers? Sorry but if this is what passes for funny on tv I'm not impressed. My real life is funnier than this. I have a student whose name is Porntip, but she prefers to go by her nickname: Nooky.

Ass-burgers.

Nice touch ending with "Don't You Forget About Me."

I give it a B+ (ish).

I laughed a little at the menengitis joke.

i didn't really have high expectations from the ads/clips i'd seen, but this was a really strong pilot, i laughed a lot. hope it goes well from here.

These people all talk to each other. As iatee referenced above, almost nobody in my classes talks to each other.

right, the whole 'no outside social interaction, people don't know each other' thing is one of the defining features of these places.

I didn't think it was that great, maybe because I felt like I had already seen the entire episode over the ads they showed earlier in the night.

i wasn't so bullish on the pilot, but yay trudy campbell!

the whole 'no outside social interaction, people don't know each other' thing is one of the defining features of these places.

Granted, I went to a smaller community college, but this wasn't true of my experience at all! People in the same classes formed these rag-tag social groups all the time, even if they'd only last a semester or two.

I enjoyed the show a lot -- definitely a stronger pilot than, say, Parks and Recreation last season.

that dude from Derrick Comedy being in this upped my interest about 50%

that said, this pilot was just ok - i'll give it sometime, gotta watch something b/w Office and Sunny until 30 Rock comes back anyway

I thought it was strong, I look forward to seeing what they do with the future plotlines. Besides the main character's derisive comments, which weren't overly damning coming from him, there wasn't anything that really cast a negative light on community college; the dorky dean is a universal college staple on TV, and none of the students in the study group at least particularly scream "oh look how retarded comm college students are!". One thing the students seemed to have in common is that they weren't stupid, but for various reasons going to/getting into a four-year school just wasn't feasible at the time, which sums up nicely why a lot of people choose community college.

I went to community college through a Washington State program during my junior and senior year of high school full time and I loved it; getting my AA for free (I literally paid no tuition ever) was a bonus too. I met many really bright people at the comm college and many real morons at my university. Same with professors. As long as the show doesn't devolve into a bunch of community college jokes then I think there's lots of potential.

pete campbell's wife is in this? or am i wrong

Yes, it is Pete's wife! Now I am looking for some crazy way for Pete to make a cameo on this show. He would be great as an officious dean.

These people all talk to each other. As iatee referenced above, almost nobody in my classes talks to each other.

right, the whole 'no outside social interaction, people don't know each other' thing is one of the defining features of these places.

I didn't think it was that great, maybe because I felt like I had already seen the entire episode over the ads they showed earlier in the night.

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i thought the whole plot of the first episode was that these people hadn't talked to each other in class and that we were being the shown catalyst of how they all ended up interacting and having a study group together?

B+ seems about right. pretty funny in places but i did not care for the Life Lessons Learned stuff

and yes, better that Parks & Rec pilot from last year

I thought the end of ep 2 was pretty funny

terrible show

well yeah

the ken jeong bit was good

As I feared, the Chevy Chase character is turning out to be a little much. Either tone him down or sack him altogether. I like the rest of the cast and the show itself, though.

This show is one where I still haven't been able to form an opinion. I need to see some actual humor come out of the minor characters. as a drama the story arch is still pretty interesting... I mean the main character is cool and I can easily relate to community college type experiences and trying to get "the girl". but if the show doesn't step up soon I won't believe that any of the characters are really that funny.

I'm giving it another week or two.

Episode 1: Total horseshit.
Episode 2: Had moments.

Chevy Chase 2009 would be really, really great as the lead in "Sonofabitch: The Dick Cheney Story"

I laughed.

It's not firing on all cylinders, but I'm already fond of the characters and that makes up for the weaker stuff. Was John Oliver's character a one-off, or is he coming back?

I think he's part of the cast

show needs less chevy chase, more donald glover

this show was awesome, i don't know what you all are talking about

am i the only person who still really likes chevy chase? havent seen the 2nd ep but i thought he was great in the 1st.

im happy to see him get some decent work again.

Harmon did have twitter, but was always very self-aware of the difference between a general audience, dedicated viewers, and the kind of microniche of super-dedicated fans who track down offscreen communication from the uncredited writer of a TV show.

He talked about twitter all the time on Harmontown

he incorporated the term "streets ahead" in an early episode because some Tweeter claimed that Modern Family was "streets ahead" of his "meta-bullshit", so of course he had Pearce trying to coin the term.

I know episode promos are either misleading or totally uninformative (shout out to the Mad Men previews) but they really seemed intent on playing up the Pulp Fiction angle. I guess as I watch less and less TV in the traditional week to week format I forgot that preview promos used to be pretty disconnected from the material.

“Critical Film Studies” has been sold as “the Pulp Fiction episode” of Community. Even NBC, which often doesn’t promote the show all that heavily, has run many, many promo slots for the show playing up the crazy costumes and situations involved in the Pulp Fiction-styled B-plot.

(I tried expanding the comments in this post to find old discussion too and I broke firefox so never mind)

all the online chatter was dedicated to theories re: what kind of Tarantino homage Dan Harmon was doing to do

although it may have come from dumb decision-making in the promo dept, preserving the surprise of the Dinner With Andre-ing is a great result of this tactic

That's very true! That's why it made me wonder about how else the show could have played with/subverted expectations if Dan had been showrunner and on contemporary Twitter (and not 2009-era Twitter which hardly counts) at the same time.

Considering the swirling cesspool that 98% of Twitter is right now, I can only imagine how much worse it would have made the show. Harmon would have gotten in huge arguments with fans eight episodes in and/or canceled in real time for the Chang Drow gag and never would have even finished the first season, imo.

(yes I know the D&D episode was in season two, but still...)

I think he would have gotten through season 1 but by season 2 he and the show would be literally and figuratively cancelled for sure

almost suffocated watching danny pudi's nic cage impressions

I still think the (first season?) "Goldbluming" joke is one of the funniest things ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv6mA0qyOo4

Well there ya go

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Amusing oops

Lmao just realized he tagged Gillian Anderson instead of Gillian Jacobs

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Hooray!

Will Chevy return tho?

The lack of tag says it all I think.

Ha, good point Ned!

six seasons and no Chevy!

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