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Meantime, my new toy has been ordered...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 September 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

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s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 14 September 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

tut. get with the programme, grandad:

http://www.ipodwannahaves.nl/images/ibuzz.jpg

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 14 September 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

So that I can have a playlist of songs that I haven't listened to yet/have only listened to a couple of times.

but don't you know that already? i'm just confused about that. if there's a song or an album i haven't listened to, i mean, i know that i haven't listened to it. i don't need my computer to tell me that!

the other metadata you mention is not exclusive to itunes. any mp3 player can access it. and you can make smart folders that can access that stuff, too (genre, etc). no need for itunes. the problem for me with mp3 metadata is that the tags are rarely done properly, so there's this enormous - and never-ending - busywork of fixing them all, or adding them when they're missing - and you need to really do it, or else the entire system doesn't work (if, say eight songs out of your library of 10,000 songs don't have the year tag, then you're going to overlook those when compiling your "best of 2002" compilation). i have got enough things keeping me awake nights without wondering if my id3 tags are on straight.

i have to say i do like the idea of tagging things "single song", "full album" and "spoken". (if i could be asked)

if the aperture thingie is that good, do you think the concept could be applied to music? i keep bigging up the finder because i dislike itunes so much, but it course does blow, too. it would definitely be interesting to see something that DOES work well. (coverflow is beautiful but useless for my music, which is almost all singles).

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

but don't you know that already? i'm just confused about that. if there's a song or an album i haven't listened to, i mean, i know that i haven't listened to it. i don't need my computer to tell me that!

I frequently find I'll rip a CD and then totally forget about it, only to rediscover it weeks later. If I bothered to use iTunes' smart playlists I'm sure it would be quite handy in reminding me what I haven't listened to yet. (I only really use iTunes to copy music to my iPod)

the problem for me with mp3 metadata is that the tags are rarely done properly

You don't tag your own mp3s properly? Oh, you mean you download them from p2p networks and they're not tagged how you like? Why don't you just use iTunes' nifty metadata editor to retag each album as you import it into the database? It takes about 30 seconds.

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 15 September 2006 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Shh, Andrew, you're giving it away! Now everyone will do something so utterly simple and easy!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 September 2006 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a bit harder if you already have 10000s of mp3s and have only just realised it's the way forward, though.

itunes 7 pissed me off this morning by seeming to have forgotten that i'm managing the ipod myself, necessitating another reset and 2 hours refilling it. fingers crossed it works this time. still, all worth it for gapless playback,which is making me go back to loads of mixes i haven't heard in ages.

toby (tsg20), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

if you turn off coverflow itunes works like a dream and uses less memory than it did before

wot a surprise eh

The Real DG (D to thee G), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i have the same problem with my cd player

-- (688), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

and dont even get me started on my record player, i have no idea how many times ive played my dion & the belmonts 7":(

-- (688), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

but don't you know that already? i'm just confused about that. if there's a song or an album i haven't listened to, i mean, i know that i haven't listened to it. i don't need my computer to tell me that!

Andrew OTM here: I often rip six or seven CDs at once, and can then forget to listen to a track here or there.

the other metadata you mention is not exclusive to itunes. any mp3 player can access it. and you can make smart folders that can access that stuff, too (genre, etc). no need for itunes.
Well, aye, but I didn't think you were talking about other MP3 players -- you were suggesting using the Finder to do it, which can't access any of this.

compilation). i have got enough things keeping me awake nights without wondering if my id3 tags are on straight.

i have to say i do like the idea of tagging things "single song", "full album" and "spoken". (if i could be asked)

I decided to do it a long time ago -- so I spent a night or two making sure my (much smaller then) library was properly tagged. Now I only have to sort out new additions, and they're easy to spot because the wrong genres stand out.

if the aperture thingie is that good, do you think the concept could be applied to music?
I don't think it would work especially well for music -- it's about keeping 20 images shot a second apart in one stack, and adding new versions you make of images in the same stack. It's great for editing and processing, but for a ream of separate things like songs it wouldn't be useful.

stet (stet), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

if you turn off coverflow itunes works like a dream and uses less memory than it did before

is there a proper "turn off" command? or do you mean just avoiding that view? (which is what i'm doing on the other mac.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 15 September 2006 13:06 (seventeen years ago) link

well i figured out why the gapless playback scanning was taking so long (it was scanning and doing this EVERY TIME I opened Itunes); I have some corrupted directories in my library with tracks still in the lib/xml, so itunes was hanging up searching for them. I removed them and seems to work better now. I'd better back everything up before my drive fucks up.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I just figured out what they should do with Itunes next - store user libraries. When you buy a song, it gets added to your online library. Users can upload their own collections. Give an internet address for the file for access from cell phones and PDAs.

def zep (calstars), Saturday, 16 September 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF is an "album artist"?

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 17 September 2006 01:31 (seventeen years ago) link

someone who makes art out of old cds and lps.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 17 September 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone who handcrafts their records the old fashioned way instead of that cheap shoddy 'singles' method.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 17 September 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

someone who makes art out of old cds and lps.

http://pzacad.pitzer.edu/~mma/teaching/MS74/images/marclay5.jpg

john david bootyflake (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 17 September 2006 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Why would I want that on my mp3s?

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 17 September 2006 02:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw. And indeed, yeah.

http://static.flickr.com/44/250164075_036101897a.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 September 2006 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Cool. Most U&K tool for the mini: a putty knife.

The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 23 September 2006 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link

did you splurge for the faster processor? I'm really debating buying one of these

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 23 September 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I went for a Duo, yeah. Went for a gig of RAM; would have liked to gone for 2 GB but money wasn't quite allowing for it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 September 2006 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Why would I want that on my mp3s?

It's something that the classical music fans have been wanting for years

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 24 September 2006 05:22 (seventeen years ago) link

a shower?

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 September 2006 05:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i know that joke makes no sense

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 September 2006 05:24 (seventeen years ago) link

They've updated Aperture so among other things, it works on any intel-based Mac, and lets you store your images anywhere. Whee.

stet (stet), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i got a DSLR this weekend so: awesome

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Well that was handy -- mentioned idly to some of my coworkers in library computer systems about my purchase and selling the old Cube and one of 'em's interested. Nice! We agreed on a general price based on what I'm seeing on eBay and hopefully it'll all come through.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i'm thinking of selling my PB to a friend and going for a new MB/MBP so as to better do video/photo stuff on the fly and such.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 25 September 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Aperture 1.5 is so much better than previous versions, It is finally has the snappy. Still can't be trusted to auto set exposure, but I think it has finally hit beta grade. It might be a half decent product by the time lightroom ships.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 06:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I would go as far to say that 10.4.8 has improved a lot of things on Intel macs, Safari, finder and rosetta apps all seem to respond faster.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 06:42 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
new macbook pro core 2 duo superwang http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

zappi (joni), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link

can't decide whether to buy now or to wait for santa rosa/leopard

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

if you can't decide, wait. prices will always get lower and tech will always get better. the only reason to ever buy a computer is because you absolutely have to have it right then.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

He's quite right. I was waiting on my own upgrade for a long while until my Cube's CDR drive finally died, and as it happens I'm glad I waited!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i need a serious upgrade....12" is slower than shit now that I've maxed the hard drive

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, has anyone here every done the monthly payments deal on a mac, or have you always bought outright?

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

always leave at least 10% free! sheesh, you kids!!!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Always outright, leasing has its attractions though.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

always leave at least 10% free! sheesh, you kids!!!

I know, I know, but how am I supposed to fit all this Justin Timberlake??

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Due to a lag in some back pay I went monthly, but in a two-year plan via my local federal credit union so I was able to get a good loan rate (hell of a lot better than on a credit card), and it comes out of a regular monthly deposit I make to them anyway. As it is once the back pay hash gets settled I'll just pay the whole thing off, and since I went for AppleCare I'm covered for three years regardless.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

my advice: ALWAYS go for edu discount. even if you're not exactly uh entitled to it. they never check.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway i may actually wait, though that'll mean i'll get a worse price for my current powerbook... and it is running kinda slow these days.

i wish i had bought more ram at the outset :(

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i get an educational discount, for REAL!

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I just pulled the trigger on the middle 15" model with a 200GB drive.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

you shot a really expensive computer?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i woulda gone for the 200gb drive but 4200rpm = oh no you didn't

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

my advice: ALWAYS go for edu discount.

Heheh, yes. (I forgot to mention that the credit union is the teachers' one here in OC, with an office handily on the campus. And since I do work for a university...)

i wish i had bought more ram at the outset :(

I'm fine with the 1 GB now but we'll see what the future brings.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

ya, 4200 is stupid slow.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link


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