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this is the turd (this is the turd) that the lord hath made (that the lord hath made)
i will rejoice (i will rejoice) and be glad in it (and be glad in it)

and imagine fozzy bear singing the parentheticals.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

That phrase is interesting because it adjusts the emphasis so the sentence is more iambic. But it would have to because

bamcquern, Friday, 18 September 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I have second thoughts more than actual posts. I keep closing my window.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 18 September 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1834/unabomberfbi.gif
unabiden

bamcquern, Saturday, 19 September 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

my display name is an honor student at ilx high school (sarahel), Saturday, 19 September 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4135/0000046701350.jpg

bamcquern, Sunday, 20 September 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

wotta comedian

bamcquern, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Ew!

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 23 September 2009 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Dammit, I did not need to see that.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 23 September 2009 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Just realized there's a typo on the thread title.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Which is fitting.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe, I've got no speakers hooked up right now.

bamcquern, Friday, 25 September 2009 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I think you're all naive.

Timing of joke off. And

Doesn't seem passive aggressive.

bamcquern, Friday, 25 September 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i was gonna post on that glenn beck thread that i wished glenn beck would die, but then i kept thinking about how mean that is. plus, i may have already posted that on the glenn beck thread in the past.

scott seward, Friday, 25 September 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm about to call my mother to ask her about Glenn Beck. I know she has his Christmas book, but I just want to know. She's a smart lady.

bamcquern, Friday, 25 September 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I was gonna post on the '"500 Days of Summer" thread that I thought it would make a good back story for Cobra Commander, but I didn't feel like searching for the thread, coz what if someone already made the comment? I'd have to do 'edit' 'find' 'cobra', and display all posts. So, I posted it on facebook anyway.

(bracket name) (jel --), Friday, 25 September 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I bet no one made that joke, but, wait, are they both played by the same actor or something? Because if so, maybe someone did.

bamcquern, Friday, 25 September 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

As ilxors we should just collectively stop discussing hype.

bamcquern, Saturday, 26 September 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxpost- He might not have been an artist.

bamcquern, Saturday, 26 September 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Why does this old thread consistently make it onto most read threads?

bamcquern, Saturday, 26 September 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Everyone voting Ob-la-di Ob-la-da secretly hates retarded people

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tvsquad.com/media/2007/10/corky.jpg

I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Sunday, 27 September 2009 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i was gonna post on that glenn beck thread that i wished glenn beck would die, but then i kept thinking about how mean that is. plus, i may have already posted that on the glenn beck thread in the past.

― scott seward, Friday, September 25, 2009 3:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

omar little, Sunday, 27 September 2009 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link

although my "plus" would have been, "that would just make him a martyr for assholes."

omar little, Sunday, 27 September 2009 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link

If this becomes a thread connection, I will probably not post it

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should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Sunday, 27 September 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link

11. barely able to driver's head above steering wheel

I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Sunday, 27 September 2009 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link

barely able to see

I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Sunday, 27 September 2009 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I have been thinking it is October for a few days now.

bamcquern, Sunday, 27 September 2009 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

why is that thread constantly in the most read threads list?

I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Sunday, 27 September 2009 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know? It's got a woman in the title, but it's two years old and the reads are on-site reads. It doesn't make sense. The simpsons porn one only partly makes sense, but a lot of those reads are site reads too. Wait, I get that one, because it persists because of the most read threads page working in concert with google hits. But the other one with the girl I just don't get, unless it's a lesser version of the same phenomenon.

bamcquern, Sunday, 27 September 2009 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i just wonder if it's some quirk in the system. it's always there.

I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Sunday, 27 September 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Those famous Unabomber types

Niles Caulder, Monday, 28 September 2009 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, this is actually not a thread about the suggest ban system

I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I have had it up to here waiting for the Fingerhut catalogue to be remastered.

I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Fact: www.dhmo.org is a website dedicated to that stupid joke your chemistry teacher makes in high school about dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) being the most abundant, potentially dangerous chemical in the world.

Fact: according to double top-secret web analytics I saw for epa.g0v today, the number two referrer to EPA's website in the past 3 months was www.dhmo.org, and it's been in the top 5 for the past year.

smell the reality of coffee (Z S), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 02:28 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

i wish this thread was locked because i totally feel like this now.

sarahel, Monday, 9 November 2009 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

like what

TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Monday, 9 November 2009 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8351405.stm

Mark G, Monday, 9 November 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - like the subject of a thread i had second thoughts about posting on that was a serious clusterfuck.

sarahel, Monday, 9 November 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I always have to stop myself going onto thread about bands I don't like to slag them off, as that wouldn't be doing anyone any good.

I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Monday, 9 November 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah - i hear you on that one.

sarahel, Monday, 9 November 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I always have to stop myself going onto thread about Picthfork, I don't like to slag them off, as that wouldn't be doing anyone any good.

TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Monday, 9 November 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I always like going on the Pitchfork thread because it makes other people who allegedly don't read it cry.

a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Monday, 9 November 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

?

TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Monday, 9 November 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

talking about the "omg ppl are talking about Pitchfork, WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY" contingent

a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Monday, 9 November 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp - do you talk about provates or something?

sarahel, Monday, 9 November 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

oh. that's me, sometimes, too. i mean, i can't restrain myself and i should

TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Monday, 9 November 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Provates--their new album is great, much improved over that EP last year

TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Monday, 9 November 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

kinda feel like derailing LJ's epic poll thread and protest vehemently that he should have included track 6 from the last Provates album.

sarahel, Monday, 9 November 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

awwwww, thanks :)

probably for the best that you're not sapphic, when sapphics say things like that i just start keysmashing. that's the kind of lesbian i am, haha.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 4 April 2024 23:37 (two weeks ago) link

just throwing it out there but i feel like you're not forced to have an opinion about stuff you don't really care about or relate to

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 April 2024 00:57 (one week ago) link

just throwing it out there but i feel like you're not forced to have an opinion about stuff you don't really care about or relate to

― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague)

look i got no stake in this argument one way or another but i gotta say that i VEHEMENTLY disagree in the STRONGEST possible terms with you on this

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 5 April 2024 04:17 (one week ago) link

what on earth

mookieproof, Friday, 5 April 2024 04:44 (one week ago) link

Damn dude, I wish I could go to even a quarter of the number of shows you get tickets to.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 April 2024 05:03 (one week ago) link

just throwing it out there but i feel like you're not forced to have an opinion about stuff you don't really care about or relate to


As a hater, I’m torn on this. Yes otm on one hand, “I don’t care about this” is such a worthless opinion it’s actually pointless to post and yet people continue to do so; otoh if you don’t relate to or care about something it’s really important that everyone knows that, preferably at length, and it’s not remotely irritating.

On the latter subject, the mute threads function is really handy and has almost entirely curbed my tendencies to click into threads that I know are annoying to me, so great work stet, huge improvement to the sna experience.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 April 2024 11:03 (one week ago) link

i'd like to tell you but this isn't a safe place. this isn't a safe place for me to talk about it.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 5 April 2024 13:56 (one week ago) link

you say "changed everything" but what if no matter who left or who arrived this particular band always just sucked beyond redemption

I like the idea of this, a band where the entire group could be replaced by unrelated musicians playing a totally different style of music and yet the curse attached to it is so strong that they will never not suck

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 5 April 2024 14:12 (one week ago) link

I could probably make a good-sized list

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 April 2024 14:19 (one week ago) link

Mostly every successful metal band that's lasted twenty or more years

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 April 2024 14:26 (one week ago) link

i don't want to read the whole thread but i would like to know (hope to know) that no one is actually angry with anyone about music

z_tbd, Friday, 5 April 2024 15:02 (one week ago) link

Otm

sarahell, Friday, 5 April 2024 15:39 (one week ago) link

Who let the dohgz out

sarahell, Friday, 5 April 2024 15:49 (one week ago) link

molly hatchet just played here and someone informed me that there is no original member of that band left and it made me think about all the decades of steps that it took to get to the point where people who were never originally involved with that band ended up becoming the band. the three-molly problem. my new series coming to Tubi.

scott seward, Friday, 5 April 2024 16:05 (one week ago) link

They've also become an avant-garde string quartet

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 5 April 2024 16:06 (one week ago) link

My series starts in Mainland China...

scott seward, Friday, 5 April 2024 16:08 (one week ago) link

don't wanna hijack ivy's "writers you think are bad" thread, however, i do think it's interesting and i do have Thoughts about it

yes why bother writing a good essay when you can write a bad one

― ivy.

this is genuinely interesting to me, because i've been writing bad essays for most of my life

for most of my life i've had this compulsion to write. and while other people can get by by writing my little pony fanfiction - which is, i think, an _excellent_ use of a person's creative talents - for whatever reason i keep writing _critical essays_.

a lot of them are bad

i didn't write them _for_ anyone in particular - just wrote them because i felt like i had to. why both writing a bad essay when i could write a good one?

sometimes i work really hard at writing, work really hard at it and write something that is probably good. i don't feel a sense of _satisfaction_ about having done it. mostly i'm glad to be done with it.

what i can never figure out is what the fuck to _do_ with my writing

the thing that amazes me about oyler is that she actually went to all the work to get her work _published_

lots of different people can write, but like. even getting to the _point_ where one can be reviewed is...

i kind of agree with the idea that "no one should be popular"! i'm not a big fan of the concept of "popularity". particularly writing something where...

the idea of being a "bad thinker" particularly connects with me. the parallel to being a "bad writer", which to me suggests writing as a _craft_

i think i kind of understand what's meant by someone being a "bad thinker" - someone who starts with a premise and reaches a conclusion that's either irrelevant or just plain wrong. it might be that "thinking" in that way is a craft the way writing is a craft.

i guess that's where my attempts at critical essays come from... the way i write is a sort of aid to structuring my thinking. when i try to figure things out in my head it doesn't always go so good. when i write things out on paper it's easier to come up with meaningful conclusions. meaningful to me, at least.

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it's the idea of criticism _itself_ that gets me. so i'm writing for myself, but who else? as a critical writer, i'm highly sensitive to the power of criticism. i even surprise myself sometimes with my lack of resilience. i haven't read this oyler person's work. it reminds me of a video essay i watched about... i think it was about the Hobbit video game. i transcribed the part of it that resonates me, that helps me remind myself that writing isn't a bad thing, even if i'm a bad writer, even if i'm a bad thinker. i'm just gonna paste it here... i think it says things better than i could.

I'm not sure a culture where we respond to failure with anger and hatred is such a good thing.

Creating things is hard. Do you know what happens to most things people create? Nothing. Nothing happens, because most people never share their creations with the world.

Creating things is hard, and it can be particularly hard to keep going in spite of that. It can be hard to deal with the constant fear of failure, the prospect of disappointing yourself or other people, and the pain of not making something as good as you want it to be and believe yourself capable of.

I think this kind of fear of failure and self-doubt probably holds many people back in life. I think that's a great shame, because the number one way to make something good is usually to fail a bunch of times. Unless you're very lucky, failure is the best teacher you will ever have. Failure is useful. Failure is necessary. Failure is normal. It is a part of creation, and if we want people to create good things - games or otherwise - failure should probably be allowed.

So maybe we should avoid vilifying it.

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ok, and i'm still a _critical writer_. that's what i do. it is so _easy_ to vilify. i've seen so much writing that's truly bad. that's without even bringing bad thinking into it. i don't think people do bad things _because_ of bad thinking. i think bad thinking is a manifestation of something else, something that's not fundamentally intellectual in nature. i'm not sure how relevant that is, though? one's _motive_ for bad thoughts, bad actions, doesn't necessarily matter... what matters is the results.

critics, i guess... i feel like part of what i do is make arguments for what those results... _ought_ to be. like, there is a _should_ implicit in all criticism. it promotes the critic's particular set of values. all of this talk... vulnerability, radical acceptance... and yet my work is fundamentally driven by my values. criticism is rooted in a lack of acceptance. while i can appreciate the vulnerability someone displays by saying something wrong... it doesn't alter that wrongness. sometimes it doesn't matter that a person is wrong.

to me a lot of the time it doesn't matter to me that someone is wrong, that someone is a bad thinker. there was that thread on cerebus... dave sim is someone who i would classify without hesitation as a "bad thinker". he reaches conclusions of staggering wrongness. certain sorts of wrongness - either qualitatively or quantitatively - are effectively immune to criticism due to their distance from the would-be critic's worldview.

if i'm gonna criticize, i'd prefer it to be criticism of work like sim's. a sort of inquiry into _otherness_. i'm inclined to think that it's bad criticism to write about something one doesn't understand, but there's _so much_ about this fucking world i don't understand. criticism for me isn't a debate on the merits of a work or lack thereof. it's making sense of the insensible. it's, often, me shaking my head and saying "Why was this published? Who's the audience for this shit?"

"nobody should be popular"... i think what i agree with most about that is that i have this very radical sense of egalitarianism about me. it's not entirely healthy - the fundamental motivation is my belief that nobody should be having a worse time than me. i don't think the belief itself is _wrong_, though. it is, in some sense, unjust when bad writing is exalted. the injustice is, well. the existence of _critics_. people who say "this is good", "this is bad". the problem is that, well... everyone's a critic. in the early days of the internet, these libertarians would say "the answer to bad speech is more speech". patent nonsense. just as nonsensical, i think, is any idea that the answer to criticism is more criticism.

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i guess i write criticism because i need to, because it's one of the best ways i can think of to express my values. the thing about criticism is that no matter one's intent, it does, i think, bend towards personal conflict. i'm in favor of conflict, honestly. it's difficult for me to do conflict well. i got a tendency towards the performative. that kind of thing cheapens criticism, in my book. well, at least... it goes against my current values.

i think it's important for bad writers to have the opportunity to become better writers, and bad thinkers to have the opportunity to become better thinkers. that mindset is... difficult for me to cultivate.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 19:55 (one week ago) link

I try not to write negative reviews anymore, not because I don't hate things — I hate so many things — but because life is short and I'd rather say "Hey, listen to this."

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:03 (one week ago) link

whereas to me criticism is about saying "let me tell you why i find this interesting"

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:10 (one week ago) link

my buddy John Ch3ds3y once wrote a review of this Christian metal band Ultimatum's album and said the vocalist sounded like a duck and the dude wrote him back and called him an asshole and a whole bunch of other uncouth things he didn't expect to be posted publicly, which my buddy nonetheless did the next day

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:11 (one week ago) link

why a duck

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:16 (one week ago) link

i kinda hear it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzr0eeTRoA

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:19 (one week ago) link

like he's trying to be Zetro but can't enunciate

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:19 (one week ago) link

Honestly, a metal vocalist who went full spluttering Donald Duck would be pretty amazing. I remember hearing one Immortal song where Abbath sounded exactly like Popeye, right down to the "huck-uck-uck-uck-uck" chuckling sound, and just laughing my ass off. But it was still awesome.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:23 (one week ago) link

'popeye' was definitely my pejorative statement for a lot of BM vocalists back in the 90s, until I realized most of my favs also sounded like him

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:29 (one week ago) link

why a duck

Because they're Christian metal, and Lord love a duck

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:34 (one week ago) link

Honestly, a metal vocalist who went full spluttering Donald Duck would be pretty amazing.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson)

not a metal vocalist, but scott walker on "the escape" does the most terrifying donald duck impression i have ever heard

admittedly i haven't heard any other donald duck impressions i could describe as "terrifying"

as far as ultimatum goes, i do genuinely feel bad for the vocalist - i mean, i got a speech impediment myself.

having said that, first, if someone wrote a review of my christian metal band's album and made fun of me for talking like donald duck, i wouldn't go after the person who said it. i mean if you're reviewing the record and the singer has a speech impediment it seems reasonably fair to point it out. my speech impediment is a large part of the reason i'm not a christian metal band singer. i mean, it's more important to me that i'm not a christian and i'm a pretty bad singer, but the speech impediment is definitely in there.

the best metal version of the popeye theme i've heard is on chunktrade's 2003 demo.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:34 (one week ago) link

i am a fan of the early 1970s australian band "duck"

just... a weird lineup or contemporary rock covers. "maybe i'm amazed"... sure... "southern man"... ok... "dog breath"?!? "memo from turner"? "the man in me"? shit gets weird.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:38 (one week ago) link

hitting the ball at an outfielders head so it bounces out for a home run

brimstead, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:38 (one week ago) link

Usually requires at least one (1) Canseco ranging the outfield, but a good strategy if available.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:43 (one week ago) link

I don't know about happiness. Most of the assholes I know are mostly "smugly complacent" or "blissfully ignorant". Maybe that's happiness, I don't know. I'm pretty happy and I'm not a duck.
-- Gear! (drink_to_remembe...), May 19th, 2004 12:17 PM. (Gear!) (later)

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not a dick. DICK
-- Gear! (drink_to_remembe...), May 19th, 2004 12:18 PM. (Gear!) (later)

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

From a v.old Excelsior post...

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 16:00 (one week ago) link

the worlds mildest edgelord

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 11 April 2024 00:36 (one week ago) link

i don't think an apology is necessary but i do think our society might be a little nicer if people were willing to acknowledge when they were wrong about something

na (NA), Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:40 (one week ago) link

I KNOW WHY HE DID IT!!! NUH UH, I DO!!!

budo jeru, Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:41 (one week ago) link

i don't think an apology is necessary but i do think our society might be a little nicer if people were willing to acknowledge when they were wrong about something

― na (NA), Thursday, April 11, 2024 3:40 PM bookmarkflaglink

look I'm sorry I said what I said about the Cubs

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:51 (one week ago) link

How do you all find the time to figure out who these weirdos are? Seems exhausting.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 12 April 2024 11:33 (six days ago) link

throw that hot dog down the hallway of justice

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Friday, 12 April 2024 14:41 (six days ago) link

somehow knew DJP was gonna score that obvious goal, lol...i thought about it

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 April 2024 16:16 (six days ago) link

the writers that are good thread reminded me that a writer has to at least be a little gay to be good. not that the gays aren't incapable of producing ridiculous garbage but there's just a natural advantage in knowing that the world as it's presented to you isn't necessarily the truth

ivy., Friday, 12 April 2024 20:44 (six days ago) link

I put 'mad psychedelic party in 2006' into one of those ai picture generators and it gave me this, which doesn't look very 2006, more like a bad 90s alt-something album cover

https://api.deepai.org/job-view-file/4dd221cb-5095-4e99-9fa6-eae256d4d512/outputs/output.jpg

soref, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 12:58 (yesterday) link


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