Melody Maker's review of Kula Shaker's "K"

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Geir Hongro's Tribes Of Pop

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 11:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

If I wrote a really entertaining and very biased review ...

it might not be "great" or "useful", but if it was well-written and entertaining and made me laugh, or even get wildly angry, then yeah, job well done.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 14:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Geir Hongro, if all that matters is tune, why don't bands just play the lead melody one note at a time on a keyboard with no arrangement or production at all? Surely these indie bands you big up and love so much have a sound that adds to their appeal? For you anyway...

max r, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 17:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Why would anyone listen to any of those Britpop acts when you could listen to any of the superior acts from the 60s and 70s that they ripped off? Pulp were pretty good, though.

max r, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 20:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

The tune isn't all that matters, it is just what matters the most. Plus the belonging chords matter just as much, which means it needs at least a backing instrument that is able to play chords.

Why would anyone listen to any of those Britpop acts when you could listen to any of the superior acts from the 60s and 70s that they ripped off?

Because the world needs new songs. Not the same old songs, but new ones. In the same style, but with new melodies. After a while, you get sick of humming the old songs, and you need new songs to hum.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

what happens once robert pollard has written a song with every possible melody? (eta: 2015)

ciderpress, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

Before anyone has managed to write a song with every possible melody, Sufjan Stevens has released a concept album covered every single American state. And with non-concept albums in-between even.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Because the world needs new songs. Not the same old songs, but new ones. In the same style, but with new melodies. After a while, you get sick of humming the old songs, and you need new songs to hum."

But why not new styles as well? What's the difference?

max r, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nothing wrong with new styles as long as the contain hummable songs. The new styles of the past 20 have been too much about rhythm and repetition though, not enough about melody and harmony.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Plus entirely new styles are not needed. One should rather mix the styles already existing, creating new conglomerations of already known stylistic elements.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Eh? Don't you think your criteria for what makes a song enjoyable or worthwhile is bit limited, Mr Grongo?

max r, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

It's the only criteria that mattered until 1920 in classical music, and until the late 80s in popular music.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

That's nonsense. Classical composers were always experimenting with different orchestral arrangements, new instruments, etc...
And there's been experimentation with production techniques in pop since at least the late 60s.

max r, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 23:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was going to send this thread around to some friends b/c of the interesting review but then the thread got derailed. still derailed i see.

Billy Pilgrim, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 00:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

That's nonsense. Classical composers were always experimenting with different orchestral arrangements, new instruments, etc...
And there's been experimentation with production techniques in pop since at least the late 60s.

But melodies were always an important part of 60s pop and 19 century classical music, even if there were other elements too the melody was always there at the bottom.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 09:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

geir do you like harry warren?

Pashmina, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 10:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

i regret reviving this thread.

fucking geir.

-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, September 24, 2007 2:48 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 10:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

Votes for imagebombing?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 10:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

there should be a 'killfile last 100 posts' function

Just got offed, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 10:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

ilm has been silent for 17 minutes, as the LBZC plots its next move

Just got offed, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/PotKettle_small.jpg

roffle roffle, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I couldn't find a .jpg of three pots and one kettle, sorry.

roffle roffle, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

TS mr idée fixe vs the holy trinity of lazy, adolescent snark.

(ha, xposts)

Pashmina, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

That looks like a Yello video that never was.

NickB, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Personally I think their comeback album is indeed better than any of their two 90s albums. They have stripped away all of the "indie" elements and gone fully fledged hippie-pop with quite a hint of 70s softrock/pomp pop. Which fits them greatly.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 01:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

I like "Tattva."

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 02:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqncFetwku0

Yeah, they sucked

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 23:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm happy to say that KulaShaker never graced my stereo - I thought they were bollocks.

this DG guy OTM

DG, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 23:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Mr Snrub OTM 2 posts ago

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 23:30 (nine years ago) Permalink


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