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I think it just got a DVD release!

.adam (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 January 2005 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Do you think David Lynch likes Man Ray?

.adam (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 January 2005 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link

it just got a really nice dvd release and the thing is cheap! it was like $13CAD at the store. why didn't i buy it again? also blue velvet is available for $10CAD now.

i am interested in the "business end" of motion picture filmmaking

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 January 2005 07:02 (nineteen years ago) link

i am interested in the "business end" of motion picture filmmaking

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Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 7 January 2005 07:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I am interesting in the "business end" of Harvey Weinstein's pudgy fist.

.adam (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

intesrested

oy!

.adam (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

forget it

.adam (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

You're always very interesting, Adam, no matter where you lay your hat. Or whatever you lay.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
From Variety:

Lynch invades an 'Empire'
Digital pic details a mystery

By ADAM DAWTREY
David Lynch is making a new movie with StudioCanal. In fact, he's already been shooting it under the radar for two years.

Titled "INLAND EMPIRE" (in capitals, though Lynch doesn't explain why), it stars Laura Dern, along with Justin Theroux, Harry Dean Stanton, Jeremy Irons and a host of others Lynch won't specify.

In fact, there's still very little the enigmatic Lynch is comfortable to reveal about the movie.

"It's about a woman in trouble, and it's a mystery, and that's about all I want to say about it," he comments diffidently.

The title refers to the bleak residential area on the edge of the desert near L.A. -- the antithesis of the tony locale of his last movie "Mulholland Drive."

Lynch has shot much of his latest film in Poland with local actors, after making friends with the organizers of the Camerimage festival in Lodz. He's now back shooting in and around Los Angeles.

Even at this relatively advanced stage of production, Lynch is cagey about when it will be finished. But it's understood that StudioCanal is aiming for a world preempreem at Cannes next year.

"Making a film is a beautiful mystery," Lynch says. "You go deep into the wood, and you don't want to come out of that wood, but the time is coming very soon when I will have to."

Lynch has financed the production to date from his own resources, with his wife and longtime artistic collaborator Mary Sweeney producing. The budget is unknown.

StudioCanal, which financed "Mulholland Drive""Mulholland Drive" and "The Straight Story," has come aboard "INLAND EMPIRE" to handle worldwide sales.

Digital convert

What Lynch will reveal -- and indeed, waxes lyrical about -- is the fact that he's shooting the movie on digital video.

"I started working in DV for my Web site, and I fell in love with the medium. It's unbelievable, the freedom and the incredible different possibilities it affords, in shooting and in post-production."

"For me, there's no way back to film. I'm done with it," Lynch says. "I love abstraction. Film is a beautiful medium, but it's very slow and you don't get a chance to try a lot of different things. With DV, you get those chances. And in post-production, if you can think it, you can do it."

DV has clearly given Lynch the freedom from having to clarify his intentions -- to financiers, or even to himself -- before he starts shooting.

"The explaining of things in words is always a huge problem," he confesses.

He characterizes the DV production process as a journey of "huge exploration" to discover what his film will be.

"I'm writing as I go," he says. "I believe in the unity of things. When you have one part, and then a second part that doesn't relate to that first part, it's very curious to find that they do relate after all. It's a most beautiful thing."

He also believes that it produces a different kind of performances from actors. "When you run out of film, you have to stop and reload, and during that time the heat sometimes goes off. But with this medium you can keep that heat, and it builds, and it's beautiful to see."

He says that Dern, in particular, has benefited from this freedom. "She's the most incredible actress. Some people get roles and do their thing, but some have a lot more inside and don't usually get the chance to show it."

As for the quality of the DV image, Lynch says, "It looks different. Some would say it looks bad. But it reminds me of early 35mm, that didn't have that tight grain. When you have a poor image, there's lots more room to dream."

"But I've done tests transferring DV to film, and there are all kinds of controls to dial in the look you want."

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

rad!

charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Laura Dern (and have some sort of feeling approaching something like fondness for Lynch.) It'll probably come out in 2015 though knowing him.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

1) Obviously very excited for a new Lynch film. In fact, when I clicked on the thread, I thought, "I hope it's an announcement about a new film."

2) Skeptical about Lynch's fascination with DV. I really hope it looks good. Disappointed that he's abandoning film altogether.

3) I know it's Variety and all, but "world preempreem"? Gag.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

"It's about a woman in trouble, and it's a mystery, and that's about all I want to say about it," he comments diffidently.

I'm glad to see he's breaking into new territory!

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

As for the quality of the DV image, Lynch says, "It looks different. Some would say it looks bad. But it reminds me of early 35mm, that didn't have that tight grain. When you have a poor image, there's lots more room to dream."

Gotta love him.

d'ngullberry (noisemeltdown), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

re: jaymc's thoughts

1) very excited too, also wished/hoped this would be about a new film
2) very excited about this. i'd much rather see what lynch can do with this stuff than george freakin' lucas. also: collateral
3) wasn't sure if that was a cut&paste error but if not i love it

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Skeptical about Lynch's fascination with DV. I really hope it looks good.

I was kinda worried about DV until I saw Collateral - in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing, format is increasingly becoming irrelevant.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

elvis knows what i'm saying.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

slocki maybe if you start using that word people will think you're some "hollywood dude" who's "in the know"!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Montreal is the way and truth, man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

oh I forgot about collateral! i love collateral!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

this is fantastic news... however I was really hoping this was gonna be an announcement about complete Twin Peaks DVDs finally coming out.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, Shakey Mo, you kidder. (Besides, it's only coming out in a double pack with The Complete Blade Runner.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

there was a blade runner tv show?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

when's the preempreem for that?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone see the piece he did for the Lumiere film? God, that's one of the most jolting shorts ever.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, a friend of mine has done some postproduction on this and he just told me that the working title was actually "TEH INLAND EMPIRE!!!!!!!!!11111111111!!!!!!!!!!".

Mallett McFlatFlat, Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, it was called "Max Headroom" (bah, xxpost)

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

the lumiere short he did was the JAM!!! that was awesome!


worst one: peter greenaway who totally cheated!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, his was the best short! actually that sort is one of my favorite things in the world.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

short

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

so amazing & perfect.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

you can download it off the interweb, you know...

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

i like the "early cinema" staging/framing/camera distance in the last "scene"--lynch has a great (intuitive i think) sense for how to evoke feelings through the use of antiquated stylistic devices. (see also the french impressionist film pastiches in "elephant man.)

god, i love lynch.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

that page is wrong, those aren't cuts, it's one long take!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i know--he placed scrims and black boards in front of the camera to effect "cuts" i think.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

that whole description is totally dubious. "There is no dialogue so it is totally abstract."

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm excited for this film!

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

The title refers to the bleak residential area on the edge of the desert near L.A.

This kind of blanket description annoys me.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think Collateral's going to be a good reference point. He references the lack of tight grain in early 35mm which sounds like there's going to be a good deal of digital noise and 'ugliness' (to some).

Collateral had almost no noise and it would be hard to argue that it didn't look pretty close to 35mm film.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

sort of...although it registered fast motion and light (esp. low light and quick light changes) very differently from 35mm.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

What's with the 35mmism, ILX? Surely one of Full Frontal, Pieces of April, Tadpole, Festen, Chuck and Buck, or Dancer in the Dark can sway you? Hasn't this argument long been settled?

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

The Inland Empire is where Shakey Mo Collier is from!

As well as incredibly legendary skate spots, a decent arts colony, and home of a one-time interesting music scene - Refrigerator, Nothing Painted Blue, Diskothi-Q and (file-them-in-the-Where-Are-They-Now?-Category) the Mountain Goats.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha wait all those movies looked pretty terrible.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Festen and Tadpole both look good!

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

New David Lynch film = best news of my day. And I even bought awesome new sandals this afternoon, so. Also, in the syllogistic-premonition category: Poland is great, so this film will be great.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha wait all those movies looked pretty terrible.

Alex took the words out of my mouth! Dancer in the Dark, as much as I like it story and music-wise, looks awful; I never wanted a movie to be in Cinescope so much.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, Dancer is easily the poorest looking Von Triers movie.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

BTW I like DV just fine (and the idea of Lynch using a DV too.) I just don't think the above are good examples of fine looking DV movies.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

festen looks good in its particular one-chip way.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Pieces of April didn't look completely terrible, but the gritty/doc feeling of the cinematography didn't work with the subject at all.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 12 May 2005 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link


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