"You stand convicted of Assholism!" -- in praise of John Waters

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I don't know how it happened, but I've gone from being pretty washy on this guy (liking Serial Mom and not much else) to thinking he was basically The Filmmaker of the '70s.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

It happened because you embraced FILTH!

I don't know how his post-Divine comic rhythms completely deserted him in A Dirty Shame.

Doesn't Ebert say everything before Polyester aren't "real movies," or some such? Very weird coming from a former Russ Meyer collaborator.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

John Waters, I love you:

After his new Court TV show comes on the air, the wedding invitations will probably start drying up for filmmaker John Waters.

The pencil-mustached Waters is developing a series, "'Til Death Do Us Part," that will dramatize the events of a married couple where one spouse eventually kills the other.

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Waters will star as "the groom reaper," appearing as an unexpected guest at the couple's wedding, then guiding viewers through the story as the relationship disintegrates. The series doesn't have a start date.

Court TV General Manager Marc Juris said Tuesday that Waters is expecting some fringe benefits from the role.

"He hates going to weddings," Juris said, "and figures by doing this show he'll never get invited to weddings."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Ignore that 'ADVERTISEMENT' bit, I forgot to trim it out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 04:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I will read all of this later. I just came to support this fine thread.

I recently bought Pink Flamingoes on DVD and am a much happier man because of it.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 05:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I was so disappointed that the cartoon series he was trying to make never went anywhere.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 05:34 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Waters interview on his current Chelsea Unwatchable show, running through Saturday. (I think Giuliani would've closed it down for the 9/11-Earth vs the Flying Saucers content if he were still mayor.)

http://www.greencine.com/article?action=view&articleID=297&pageID=540

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

what msicheif!

Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Thursday, 18 May 2006 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I just watched Desperate Living. Classic.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 18 May 2006 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...
A Date With John Waters(!)

Also this:
An occasional actor himself, Mr. Waters will play the Groom Reaper, the Alfred Hitchcock-like host of Court TV’s first scripted series, “ ’Til Death Do Us Part,” beginning March 19.

g00blar (gooblar), Sunday, 11 February 2007 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

"Hi stupid! Hi ugly!"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Patience & Prudence get another post-career bump.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 22 February 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"The pencil-mustached Waters". Pah! Everyone knows it's a crack in a china teacup mustache.

everything, Thursday, 22 February 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Steve Buscemi says that his wife is turned on by the fact that he looks like John Waters. Buscemi has grown the Waters mustache just for her.

Fluffy Bear, Thursday, 22 February 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

how rotten.

estela, Thursday, 22 February 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought the only people attracted by mustaches were cops and bears

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 22 February 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, how do you know Mrs. Buscemi is neither?

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Waters sent out a Christmas card in the late nineties that had a picture of Buscemi impersonating Waters. Great chuckles ensued.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 February 2007 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

did anyone in nyc see this filthy world when it played for, like, a week?

impudent harlot, Friday, 23 February 2007 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a dream my Waters CD was missing a second disc. How...dull!

Abbott, Friday, 23 February 2007 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

He's one of my favorite interviewees ever - good bit on Terry Gross recently when he was promoting the Valentines Day comp he put out.

Hurting 2, Friday, 23 February 2007 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link

this filthy world looked redundant after seeing him do stuff live. Duras 'seminar' above, etc.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm reading the memoirs of tennessee williams, with an excellent introduction from waters. he's such a reliably funny and charming interviewee/speaker/writer-for-hire.

lauren, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw the DVD of This Filthy World, it's mostly stuff you've read/heard elsewhere.

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...

Saw Pink Flamingoes tonight, it was fantastic! I wasn't quite sure I'd like it but it was way better than its rating on imdb would have you believe. I've heard about John Waters films for years, but just never got around to trying any. That's great stuff. I'm not familiar with his other films, only heard about them. I did however see the insane scene of the insect raping Divine in the "...Maniacs" flick on You Tube. I feel bad I didn't get that one at the video shop, though, cause I thought at first I would get that, and then I switched to Pink Flamingoes.

I remember seeing Divine perform a song on some British TV programme in the 80's.

Bimble, Sunday, 5 August 2007 03:02 (sixteen years ago) link

way better than its rating on imdb would have you believe

Imagine that. Desperate Living and Female Trouble for you, next.

marmotwolof, Sunday, 5 August 2007 04:11 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I presume he'd make an exception for invading armies.

If you're traveling, you can't be racist... You can't be homophobic. I think the only way you can be racist or homophobic is if you never leave the neighborhood you were born in, and you hang around with stupid people. So I've always thought that someone who was really racist should be sentenced to travel, but that's not very practical."

http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A160709

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 September 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Somehow I'd not heard of blossoms.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 8 November 2007 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Yesterday I was working and had This Filthy World playing on Netflix On-Demand, and was interrupted by a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Kerm, Thursday, 8 November 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

did they join you?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 8 November 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

No. Which was probably a good thing since they looked a little sickly already. Besides, they just wanted to read... ALOUD. They gave me some little booklets and I tossed them onto the stack of Playboys, Road & Tracks, Exotics, and Crawls in the bathroom.

Kerm, Thursday, 8 November 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

How had I forgotten Maggie Gyllenhaal was in Cecil B. Demented?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:56 (sixteen years ago) link

That was the first movie I ever saw her in.

marmotwolof, Monday, 4 February 2008 03:25 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

next, a Christmas movie.

By Gregg Goldstein

NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - Johnny Knoxville and Parker Posey are attached to star in John Waters' Christmas film "Fruitcake."

The plot is under wraps but is said to center on the title character, a boy named after his favorite dessert. He runs away from home during the holidays after he and his parents are caught shoplifting meat, then meets a runaway girl raised by two gay men and searching for her birth mother.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 9 May 2008 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

He runs away from home during the holidays after he and his parents are caught shoplifting meat

Of course!

David R., Friday, 9 May 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

There never needs to be a greater justification than that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 May 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I met John Waters on Saturday in Provincetown! We were there for a friends bachelorette party and said bachelorette happens to be a HUGE JW fan. We were drinking outside on a patio when I saw him leave the restaurant so I went up to him, explained the situation and asked for a photo. He was very nice and agreed but sadly wouldn't pose with Big Joe our blow up doll companion for the night. Will post pic when I get a copy.

ENBB, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

how have i never been to p-town? :( :(
i want to meet john waters

elmo argonaut, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link

No posing with Big Joe! Well perhaps he wasn't in the mood.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

x-post! It was my first time in P-town and it was awesome. The town is seriously cute and charming and so much fun. You should definitely go if you a chance. The John Waters thing was great esp since my friend and I are huge fans. It was perfect.

ENBB, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

He said he was sure it would end up photoshopped and on the internet if he posted with Big Joe. Hahaha.

ENBB, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahaha - posted. I meant posed, of course.

ENBB, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha, a VERY wise man. Can't put a foot wrong!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I have never been to P'town either, but as I've read that he's a(n) habitue that would be a primary reason for ever going.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

You're in NY right? Have you ever been to Cherry Grove or The Pines on Fire Island? Very similar feel although P-town is a lot bigger. It was pretty tame this weekend because the weather wasn't great but I hear that in the summer it's just mobbed.

ENBB, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I was in Cherry Grove for about 36 hours, ten years ago. Couldn't wait to leave.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, really? I grew up in another community on FI but have been to The Grove/Pines many times. I guess it is a little full on esp mid-season. Overall I got the feeling that P-town is quieter but like I said it was def a slow weekend.

ENBB, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

his dad passed away

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/obituaries/bal-md.ob.waters12jun12,0,1592699.story

am0n, Friday, 13 June 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Very sad but a long and successful life. The bits with him in Divine Trash are great -- you can tell he's bemused by it all but also proud; I think it's telling that he remembers both John's persistence and the fact that he paid back the loan used to make Pink Flamingos within about a year.

And this does say it all:

"He made us always feel safe," said another son, filmmaker John S. Waters Jr. "Is that not the most important thing a parent could do for their children?"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 June 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

He's actually in the Baltimore Sun again today!

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bal-te.to.hon13jun13,0,3043558.story

Honfest, this weekend's kitschy celebration of beehive hairdos, cat's-eye glasses and pearls, may be the city's biggest neighborhood festival.

But as Honfest grows, so does the backlash against it. Some Hampden dwellers, local fashionistas and even John Waters - who helped perpetuate the image of the Hon as a Baltimore icon - are fed up with the 50,000-strong festival that began as a simple beauty pageant.

Waters frowns on all the Hon hype. He said he won't use the word or the image in any of his scripts these days, and he doesn't think the city should get behind it either.

"To me, it's used up," Waters said of the Hon. "It's condescending now. The people that celebrate it are not from it. I feel that in some weird way they're looking slightly down on it. I only celebrate something I can look up to."

Apparently this ruffled some feathers because there's a bit in the comments:

I just heard John Waters called the owner of Cafe Hon/HonFest creater to apologize for the quote. He was interviewed 5 weeks ago and not about HonFest. He has proven himself to be a truly nice gentleman.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 June 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link


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