Kanye vs. Taylor Swift: Dumbest beef of all time

haha remember a year ago when guy was all "i see why people don't like my outbursts, i'm going to behave from now on"

"i see that people aren't buying my album quite so much, i'm going to make outbursts from now on"

fuck kanye, i actively detest him now

his last album was huge though!

what's it gonna be, dessert or disaster

I thought beyonce giving taylor her time was really dope and nice tbh

he was just saying what everyone was thinking. the cars' "you might think" beat "thriller" for video of the year, someone needs to knock some sense into MTV.

wow didn't know "nike boots" sampled a wale song, got really excited for a second when they played it during a transition

hoos otm

IRL challops

k3vin your post makes absolutely no sense to me

Fuck you musically! "You Might Think" was awesome! Ric Ocasek turned into a fly! That's awesome!

what happened with this jay performance that people are saying crash and burn

k3vin your post makes absolutely no sense to me

― some dude I met once shoots gun w/ them (some dude), Monday, September 14, 2009 12:16 AM (7 minutes ago)

pill's song "nike boots" samples a wale song (if jordan s is right - im not familiar w/ him), so when wale (who is the house MC) was performing that song during one of the transitions i got excited, thinking they were doing a pill joint.

the hoos otm part was an xpost and unrelated

also i was out when this ran live so i'm just catching this on the re-run now

was it hipsters who enabled Kanye to turn into such an asshole, or was he like that from the start?

excuse me i was not hating on the cars, just saying that the VMAs tend to be victims of the future

"nike boots" is kinda wale's big signature song, had a lil wayne remix, etc. although it was kinda lame and not actually that big so it's not like i'm gonna clown you for not knowing it. i guess pill did a freestyle over the beat? (xpost)

Kanye was always an asshole btw, he just didn't have as big a platform or as much confidence to display it before

swift boat

yeah a lot of that mixtape is pill over a bunch of well-known beats (single ladies, heartless, couple r les productions from his album etc)

by the way, kanye will never be the most loathsome pop star no matter how hard he tries

http://twitter.com/MechanicalDummy/status/3972810453

http://nahright.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/kanye-taylorswift-apology-450x258.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxKIcrDsJAs

OK the problem with this is not what Kanye did, but that WTF about "single ladies" being the best video of all time? Like, how many many videos has this dude watched, three?

Also, yeah since when have the VMAs have been anything but shit?

I can think of at least 3 Kanye West videos that are better than Single Ladies.

kanye was right tho, the "single ladies" video is a classic - no one is disagreeing with him

ok except u dorks

its a classic video imo

Can we get back to blaming hipsters for Kanye's success?

I am totally disagreeing!!! Single ladies is an OK video, not by any stretch of the imagination.

^not classic by any stretch...

not only is no one going to remember the "you belong with me" video in 20 years they probably won't remember taylor swift either. "single ladies" being the best video of all time is certainly debatable but it's definitely going to be a mainstay on those Top 100 Music Video specials on VH1 and MTV2 from now on, not sure if any other video nominated this year can say that.

you fuckin guys acting like the accuracy of kanye's statement is in any way relevant

gotta dust off my KANYE WAS RIGHT shirt

i mean it's always sledgehammer, losing my religion, thriller, scream, take on me...a new member of the club is appreciated.

not sure if any other video nominated this year can say that.

That's because all the nominated videos (including Taylor's BTW) are crap.

Losing My Religion, really? That video is boring as hell.

gotta dust off my KANYE WAS RIGHT shirt

Your "KANYE WAS WRONG" needing to be washed about thrice a week from overuse, right?

haha i was gonna say, one of these is not like the others (xpost)

hey i don't make the lists, i've never seen a countdown without it though.

Pretty sure I'm responsible for that Batman Facepalm going internet mainstream fwiw.

daavid i'm almost afraid to ask, but what were the 5 best vids of the past year iyo?

Kanye West would make an excellent heel in the world of pro wrestling.

Well I'd have to think about that. On top of my head, I'd say I prefer Empire of the Sun's "Walking on a Dream" and La Roux's "Quicksand" better that any of the nominees. I just think the VMA's have been way off the mark for at least 15 years.

^xpost

OK I confess I hadn't seen them all. I think I prefer Kanye's own video to both Beyonce's and Taylor's. And yeah, "Single Ladies" is better than "You Belong to Me" but neither is very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRQUCBBdgrU

^^ was robbed

I don't give a shit about Taylor Swift so I think Kanye going nuts is great!!!!

yeah tbrr i feel like love lockdown was one of the best videos of the year and it hurt my soul to see it booed after the stupid outburst

very tasteful curtis

everybody wanna boooo me but I'm a fan of real pop culture

http://harryallen.info/?p=5154

I wonder if the idea of Blondie singing "I Touch Myself" is based on Debbie Harry's "I Want That Man" more than anything else.

harry allen: discovering there are idiots on twitter

i dont think thats his point

Great piece.

Not that any of these are excusable, but I wonder what percent of those tweets break down in these three categories

1. Genuine hateful assholes
2. Clueless idiots who don't know how offensive words are
3. 4chan 17-year-olds/Vice mag 20-year-olds/cankles 30-year-olds trying out racial slurs to amuse themselves and shock others

1. 40%
2. 50%
3. 10%

i'm more thinking

20%
30%
50%

Most racists are cowards and don't take it anywhere where their name is. Also "internet"

idk man, those tweets seemed dead serious to me, lots of 14 year old white kids who think that just because katt williams says "niggas are ruining it for us niggers" that it's okay for them to differentiate between the two which is a lot of what those tweets are about

i thought chris rock's "i love black people but i hate niggas" was still the earnest self-justifying racist's best friend, did katt supplant him?

tbh i couldn't remember if it was katt or chris (because i am a racist) but since i've seen much more katt stand up in my life than rock i just went with katt. i'm really not sure tho. i'm sure it's possible that katt did the same bit.

yeah that was a chris rock bit from like 15 years ago. I remember dudes in my '90s high school using it to justify they're own weird racism. I had a friend who said Michael Jordan was a black person and Shaquille O'Neal was, uh, the other.

lol jordan

i wonder if chris rock feels bad that a nation of white fucktards use his bit to excuse their bullshit prejudice

that's why chappelle went bonkers apparantly

yup, and the skit that sent him overboard was pretty fucked up

yeah that was a chris rock bit from like 15 years ago. I remember dudes in my '90s high school using it to justify they're own weird racism. I had a friend who said Michael Jordan was a black person and Shaquille O'Neal was, uh, the other.

― ENBB Otter's Pug Band Christmas (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dude, if u knew people like this growing up why is it a surprise that maybe ppl on twitter -- perhaps even 90% of ppl dropping n-bombs on twitter -- might genuinely be 'being racist'?

xpost - what skit was it?

the 'racial pixies' one

oh i see

Also looking forward to REAMS of critical dialogue about culture wars and incipient racism and o god kanye i blame you for so much
― That is awful. I am sorry. Help it up. That is mean. (forksclovetofu), Monday, September 14, 2009

yes, kanye is a black black guy. yes, taylor is a white white girl. yes, kanye is kind of a dick. yes, racist assholes will take advantage of kanye's dickishness to try to make some badly formed "point". but taking an informal collection of twitter searches for "kanye+nigger" and offering it up as proof of a trend has the same level of journalistic thoroughness and integrity that the NYT shows with it's frequent "Guava Jelly shows up in 4.3 million google searches".

I dunno; this all seems really predictable and sad and tired and i'm not sure i see it as much more than "harry allen: discovering there are idiots on twitter" excepting the reasonable but obvious point that outright racism truly ought to be at least as repugnant to any right-thinking person as threatening someone with direct violence. Claiming that this is noteworthy because we're "living in postracial times" is silly; Allen knows as well as anyone that nobody spread pixie dust post Obama. Shit's getting more and more racist on the daily with all this "not my country" nonsense. What am I missing in that piece that has greater import?

ok i'm rambling on the kanye thread must be 2am

The internet is a sewer basically.

http://theblogpaper.co.uk/files/imagecache/photostory_image/files/artic_p/17445720090902.jpg

http://imaletyoufinish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/google-interupts-taylor-swift1.jpg

ok that was funny

wins prize!

(unfortunately I just tried it, it's not true, still though...)

CNN with the dope headline:

Kanye West's 'Fame Kills' tour meets swift death

In an infamous moment, after losing, Wu-Tang Clan member Ol' Dirty Bastard interrupted Shawn Colvin's Song of the Year acceptance speech to protest the loss in the Best Rap Album category, saying that he spent a lot of money on an expensive suit with expectations of winning, and proclaiming "Puffy is good and all, but Wu-Tang is better ... Wu-Tang is for the children".

odb otm

I'm trading this guy off my Madden team as soon as I get home.

I only just now learned what the meme was in forks' joke GIF post upthread ("Has anyone ever really been far even as decided to do more look like?"). not sure if it helps or hampers the classic LOL

at least partially feeling all conspiracy theory because (and this may tip my hand as being ignorant of popstuff - but...) i'd never heard of Taylor Swift until this incident, and informal polling around the office this morning has confirmed I'm not the only one.

now she's a household name.

― rentboy, Monday, September 14, 2009 10:09 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Could you imagine how fucking ridiculous you'd feel if the president of the united states called you a jackass.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:52 PM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Here's a post that didn't age well

lmao!

sad LOLs

it's now an endless parade of sad TinyPics wallpaper

Could you imagine how fucking proud you'd feel if the president of the united states called you a jackass.