Sex Pistols?

If you've only heard 'bollocks', you have to hear the b-sides of the early singles. Shockingly brilliant stuff.

still loads of twats walking around in big ol baggy flared pants and dudes with long hair. might well have not even bothered.

... what an atrocious idea

j/k

i just saw glen matlock play in denver! kind of random, my friend dragged me along, he was opening for hugh cornwell. it was fun! clem burke from blondie on drums, small faces and monkees covers, "god save the queen". ended up vomiting due to some kind of 24 hour stomach virus later that night, but it felt appropriate somehow.

3 year xpost, but I really love Flogging, and it has No One Is Innocent, which I totally love (Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs on vocals). And if you get that, you kind of have to get the Die Toten Hosen answer song, also with Biggs, "Punk Was," which is like the great lost Sex Pistols song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rQurYKnTxw

At this point, I probably prefer Flogging to Never Mind...

finally saw the Never Mind The Bollocks episode of VH1 Classic Albums -- it must drive them nuts to this day to even have to talk about McLaren when they talk about that album, or talk about him at all, as though he "helped" get it made, or "helped" them do anything. It's lucky that they were so good from so early on, that there were people other than McLaren who could help them. It really makes you wonder what would have happened if Matlock had stayed in the band. Lol they might've just broken up on their own anyway.

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:(

What kind of weirdo would get one of those cards

millennials idk

Tee he. This is a great cosmic joke.

Yeah, it's like ironic innit?
A 2nd punchline to calling the reunion tour Filthy Lucre.
& I think they were saying at the time or at least towards the end of it that the only notes that really count are the ones that come in wads. & now almost 40 years later there's more focus on electronic financial exchange so this is somewhat logical.

But yeah they were pretty formidable when they had Glen Matlock onboard early on

I think they were saying at the time or at least towards the end of it that the only notes that really count are the ones that come in wads.

That particular song was written and recorded about 18 months after Lydon had quit, a year after the first PiL record, and a few months after Sid Vicious was in his grave. It's part of the McLaren/Temple/Jones/Cook retrospective self-glorification cash-in that Lydon despises. I don't know anything about the Visa cards or why they are made but they seem to be on that continuum, rather than reflecting anything to do with the original band. Of course, that is part of their story too so who cares really?

Lydon has uh historically been a-ok w self-glorifying cash-ins.

and he's usually snarkily up-front about it! Insisting on calling PiL a corporation and not a band etc.

Someone on Twitter came up with the perfect slogan: "You don't know what you want but you know how to get it: the Sex Pistols Virgin MasterCard."

haha stealing that

The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in... what's in your wallet?

Anarchy In The AMEX

NOW I GOT A VISA

NOW I GOT A VISA

NOW I GOT A VISA

AND I'M STILL BUYING

NO INTEREST
NO INTEREST
NO INTEREST
BECAUSE OF MY WEALTH
MY BEAUTIFUL WEALTHY!!!

this thread is turning into a cheap holiday in other people's usury

maybe unfair

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Let's face it: in the long run, punk rock has really failed at most of which it apparently set out to do, didn't it?

didn't *hasn't

oh i dunno.

What did it apparently set out to do?

It set out to destroy the passer-by

well in that it succeeded. or did it? have your say in the comments

when the kids fly United, the airfares will be divided.

p much every musical movement "fails" at achieving non-musical goals

What kind of weirdo would get one of those cards

― JRN, Tuesday, June 9, 201

Urban Outfitter shoppers.

the monarchy still endures, but maybe it wasn't sarcasm and he really did mean it, man.

he never did get to go over the berlin wall, never understood that bit at all

No "Your future dream is a shopping scheme" jokes no cred

0/10

F-

No stars

i started thinking about making an 'is this the APR?' joke but

"I've got a card machine ready for you, baybeh"

OK, no more..

Oh Sex Pistols, they're like my favourite brand of t-shirt. They do a visa card? Booooring. I pay for everything with my weird mobile phone chip these days.

Or

40-60-something old punks who now wear ties to work.

Or

Who knows?

http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/why-it%E2%80%99s-time-to-say-bye-to-the-tie

For me the most important thing that punk did was open up possibilities of making music, expression etc... for a greater number of people. In this sense it.completely succeeded.

New vinyl boxset of 1976 concerts:
4th June – 1976: Lesser Free Trade Hall, Manchester
29th August – 1976: Screen on the Green, Islington
17th September 1976: HM Prison, Chelmsford
25th September – 1976: 76 Club, Burton on Trent

Probably no band ever been so well documented live (except Grateful Dead obv) so for diehards only I guess. First two mostly for historical documentation purposes. Chelmsford recording is great quality - the best recording of the Matlock era, and I don't think has been officially released with all it's tracks in the right order and without overdubs (but probably has), so that's good.

The 4cd box is £30, which seems steep..

Oh, didn't notice it was on CD. That's better. But yeah, silly price for CDs considering everyone who's likely to care has already heard it all before.

The other day I heard Did You No Wrong for the first time, they played it on satellite radio. I had no idea it even existed. What a fantastic song.

Yes, its a not of a lost b-side. Also "Sattelite" which didn't even make it to the "Flogging a dead horse" singles album for some reason.

Yes, it's a bit of a lost etc.

it's always bugged me that it's so hard to come by the handful of "real" sex pistols tracks that aren't on NMTB (i.e., sung by lydon, studio-recorded): "i wanna be me," "satellite," "no fun," "did you no wrong." those are fantastic performances that should've been tacked onto the one real album at some point as bonus tracks, not scattered across a bunch of crummy ripoff albums among those shitty ronnie biggs singles and malcolm mclaren spoken word tracks or whatever.

Those are all on Kiss This

Yeah, main reason for investing in it.

It also has the entire NMTB on it, so it's the only Sex Pistols I own.

Her arse cheek is among those photographed in the Sex group photo I think.
& I know she was around trying to get bands together at the time. But yeah does seem to have had her role specific to teh Pistols increased i think.

she did work at sex alongside jordan and was for a time an item w/jones -- who clearly holds her in much affection and says they remain (as of 2017) on good terms. he also says it's why sid attacked a subsequent hynde bf who (acc.jones) treated her badly = nick kent. so there is a kind of a beefable-uppable plot throughline

the wild thing about that Lydon interview that xyzzzz__ posted is that he sounds exactly like the character in the show

xp definitely. Jones admitted as much saying they "showbizzed up" her role to make the show more "interesting." They were definitely a couple but for a very brief time. I won't spoil the show for anyone, but it also shows her having a big role in some significant events when she had absolutely no involvement whatsoever.

"We'll always have Huddersfield"

indeed!

I'm surprised Boyle has managed to make something quite fun and watchable out of this. He even includes a scene where McLaren seals his own fate by bashing holes into some asbestos tiles, which was kind of simultaneously grim and lol!

I had a brief "oh god, is that.." moment when noticing who was cast as Vivienne Westwood

yes, that is Talulah Riley who was married to Elon Musk, twice!

kind of funny that she's playing a character who's partnered with huckster and sensationalist Malcom McLaren

I know old John has endorsed Trump and all, and may be too much with us in other ways, but, as someone who's seen other people deal with this, and done so myself, may have to do so again, I can see he's learned some things:

John Lydon said his mental health took a beating over the last three years spent caring full-time for his 78-year-old wife.

Of his days spent feeding, dressing and caring for her, the 65-year-old admitted: “You can as a full-time carer get quite suicidal. I will have moments that are overwhelmingly sad and at the same time full of rage.

“You have to get to grips with it and lay off the self-pity. That’s one thing I can proudly say my mum and dad instilled in me from an early age: don’t feel sorry for yourself, get on with it.”

He has this advice for others caring for people with dementia: "Keep yourself intact mentally and be proud of what you’re doing. Life must continue to the absolute; you must fight for life to the very bitter end.

“This is how the cards have fallen. This is what it is. This is your future. But that’s not the end of your future."

Halfway through the series and enjoying it, I mean it's basically The Young Ones, but it's a lot of fun.

Only nitpicking this because it is an oddly weird and specific detail about poor Pete Ham from Badfinger having hung himself in the lock-up in Denmark Mews, pretty sure that's not correct.

i googled that while watching that episode and fwiw the internet thinks it is correct, although it didn't specify it was the exact same lock-up.

I find this very funny pic.twitter.com/RC2XIuBKnf

— Michael M (@michaelmphysics) June 15, 2022

Got the band confused, that's the Stooges did that.

Or that is to say that there is a story repeated in a number of places that the Stooges filled a US highway with the contents of their equipment van by doing that. Picking a bridge too low to accommodate the height of the truck at speed.

Roger Moore does even worse to a bus in Live and Let Die too.

LMAO.

Also, it's pretty fucking bizarre to see the Disney logo attached to the Sex Pistols and not be a joke like Who Killed Bambi?.

We found out who killed Bambi...

Shush! No spoilers please!

after all, it was you and me

double-decker bus

Started watching

i am only couple eps in and it is the dumbest fun I have had in a while

like veracity & timelines are loose to nonexistent but the ~vibes~ are v good idk i am enjoying it more than i expected

Xp did think the same re Disney logo. Then thought well they own everything now don't they. Or something to that effect.

Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.

But it is watchable.

& Young Ones had just been mentioned so yeah made that connection too.

Was this filmed in Cardiff or just being promoted there? There's a sign towards the beginning.

Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.

The Pistols are all Disney Princes now.

The amount of cgi alteration of the period streetscapes is kinda mind-boggling too.

They used one of my favourite little buildings in London as Glitterbest's offices (Elms Lesters Painting Rooms) but they changed the frontage and made it look even grottier - it's already in a little narrow back passage -

predictably

Rest in Peace Queen Elizabeth II.

Send her victorious.

From all at https://t.co/vK2Du0ZzDS pic.twitter.com/kq4M6WfeML

— John Lydon Official (@lydonofficial) September 9, 2022

ever get the etc

trying to parse out why this is still vaguely bothersome to me since it's totally unsurprising and afaict even at the time all but the most naive (proto-anarcho-punks on one side and i assume some outraged tories on the other) always knew from the start that their bit was all provocation with no follow through

some sense that this kind of provocation has either been fully incorporated or is now totally beyond the pale, depending on who it's from and what it's about? or just romantic nostalgia for some third hand mythology i absorbed about punk and how radical it was? since it was made clear to me that no other cultural moment could ever measure up to it. and this is what it amounts to?

"fascism is so cool and edgy"

Johnny Rotten of The Sex Pistols pic.twitter.com/u8v8KFUn7N

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 4, 2022

give a middle finger to the establishment by wanking over her maj

nm I know I lose this game by even responding

at least I don't have to hear people who know better defending "bodies" these days

PIL's Facebook post:

God Save The Queen

John Lydon wishes to distance himself from any Sex Pistols activity which aims to cash in on Queen Elizabeth II's death. The musicians in the band and their management have approved a number of requests against John's wishes on the basis of the majority court-ruling agreement.

In John's view, the timing for endorsing any Sex Pistols requests for commercial gain in connection with 'God Save The Queen' in particular is tasteless and disrespectful to the Queen and her family at this moment in time.

John wrote the lyrics to this historical song, and while he has never supported the monarchy, he feels that the family deserves some respect in this difficult time, as would be expected for any other person or family when someone close to them has died.

RIP Nora Forster. John always repped for her in interviews, clearly his guiding light.

“I find it ironic that people like Damien Hirst and Tracey Emin talk about punk being a major influence. To me they’re Thatcher’s children, because they were put into power by Saatchi & Saatchi.” https://t.co/eg1ERJ95E9

— A S Hamrah (@hamrahrama) August 9, 2023

lol i mean the clue is in the word dude

rip but #ffs