The Michael Mann poll

I like the insider but my least favorite parts are those really random bits of slo-mo that I have nobody but Mann to blame for.

Eazy is right about the first bit of 'ali', i had forgotten.

What makes The Insider one of his worst? I'm curious.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:19 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

it's not bad at being dull & worthy, it has more panache than, say, 'erin brockovich', but it doesn't have the main things you want from mann -- which 'miami vice' has in spades.

cranked up moments of melodrama and visual excess and minimalist dialogue, is what i mean.

and again what eazy said -- i was more hooked by the real-world shit in 'miami vice' than the 'oh wow did u know big tobacco r evil?' stuff in 'the insider'.

it's not bad at being dull & worthy, it has more panache than, say, 'erin brockovich', but it doesn't have the main things you want from mann -- which 'miami vice' has in spades.

cranked up moments of melodrama and visual excess and minimalist dialogue, is what i mean.

ok, say again: u mad?

ranked up moments of melodrama and visual excess and minimalist dialogue, is what i mean.

The Insider (and Erin Brockovich) don't have these?

i still think farrell was doing a george w. bush impression in miami vice

the insider is scene after scene of melodrama and someone JUST complained that the visual excess is what they DON'T like about the movie. this thread is insane.

guys, michael mann is tony scott with pretentiousness. i'm not sure why he's treated so seriously while other action directors are regarded so lowly on ilx, but seriously miami vice was a piece of shit.

There's taking sides and then there's which way is up.

the melodrama in 'the insider' wasn't life-or-death enough. but i can't talk rationally about mann.

the insider was way more entertaining than miami vice! it was fun to watch, miami vice was just like >:| and also jamie foxx's chinpubes were pissing me off.

apart from more herc-from-the-wire at the start, there's no big difference.

The scene where Tubbs's wife receives a big bouquet of flowers right after he meets with the folks in Haiti is one that I think was missing from the original run.

guys, michael mann is tony scott with pretentiousness.

lol i can't really argue with this but then again tony scott is kind of awesome to me too

i'm surprised mohicans isnt getting more love! it is goofy as hell but so are most of these, and also it has MAGUA. and a dude who says "KAN-TUCK-EE." and they fight with big hockey stick thingies.

Mohicans would be second on my list!

mohicans is what i voted for.

man now i need to buy the studio cut of 'miami vice'. the first hour of that film, right up to farrell and gong li going to cuba, is my favourite film ever at the moment.

You guys are all cocks, Ally included, for having and trying to impress your reactionary and stodgy aesthetics -- like the ending of a film matters??? -- personally upon me as the lot of you are deleted from ILX and replaced by 1000 cankles (who is OTM) clones.

Smoke a cigarette, dude.

Smoke a cock, bro. ^_^

Light my fag end.

:D

ps ally comparing michael mann to tony scott is o_O

have you seen Domino? incomprehensible bullshit
man on fire? crazy looking, jumpy bullshit with WORdS ON THE SCREEN wtf

Man on Fire was terrible.

But the Denzel time bending bullshit one was p sweet.

Walken's quote from Man On Fire, something like " death is his art, and he's about to paint his masterpiece"

So very o_O

tony scott:michael mann::buffy fanfic:h.p. lovecraft

tony scott:michael mann::talking to a 3 year old:talking to a 16 year old

tony scott:michael mann::banana:plantain

tony scott:michael mann::FUCK YOU

Mohicans is awesome, even with that poorly handled scene where the French officer talks to Magua

F.O.: Sup Magua
MAGUA: Magua hates the White Hair because blah blah blah blah blah
F.O.: Dude, I was just askin' wussup. le chill.

Fantastic ending though. DDL kickin' ass with muskets, chick kills herself, Wes Studi in general.

Also, "I face north and turn left real quick like"

Don't get the Tony Scott thing though. Mann apes Le Samourai and we get the fantastic Collateral. What would happen if Scott were to do so?

Wes Studi should be in every movie, ever.

Alfred, your gay bits cannot abide by my Promethean fire that burns so white hot you can see your reflection in it!!!!

Wes Studi should be in every movie, ever.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:45 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Somebody should do a Wes Studi poll, though part of me wonders whether it will just descend into Mystery Men quotations.

yeah wes studi is a pimp. otm about the ending sequence too, just music and wacking dudes with hockey sticks

I was thinking earlier tonight how it would be really hard to find a good birthday present for Michael Mann.

Which is not the case for Nancy Meyers.

Nancy Meyers, an Aveda basket would do the job.

By the way, the latest Nike commercial featuring LaDainian Tomlinson was directed by Mann. Makes me think that Any Given Sunday would've been great in his hands.

tony scott:michael mann::talking to a 3 year old:talking to a 16 year old

-- max, Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:00 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

oh snap

LOTM and Manhunter are awesome, particularly LOTM which battles with Roger Rabbit to be my favourite film ever. Miami Vice SuXoR, haven't seen the others.

Thanks, Wookie. Nice ad.

http://filmfanatic.org/reviews/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/cOX.JPG

Would you, uh, like to leave me your home phone number, Will?

Do you know how you caught me, Will?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Two words:

LA Takedown

Missed this. 'Heat' ages so well, it deserves this, even though I agree the ending is weak, and I hated it the first time I saw it. 'L.A. Plays Itself' notes some blatant mistakes of local geography, but the whole cool-cops-vs.-cool-bad-guys thing you either love or hate.

'Ali' read like a great script when it was excerpted in Vanity Fair, but so much of what was supposed to be going on in those scenes was internal to his character that you wondered how it could be filmed, and of course it turned out it couldn't.

I could not, for one second, believe Tom Cruise as a hitman in 'Collateral,' so that was pretty much a beautiful wash for me.

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Yeah, need to track it down:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097700/

uhhh no you dont

OK WHO VOTED FOR ALI

Hey, I spent an hour at the Museum of Contemporary Art's bookstore today reading this Taschen coffee-table book on Michael Mann's films.

Wow, I never realised Thief was Michael Mann. It's way better than most of that shite. I'll take James Caan over post-1980 Al Pacino every day of the week.