Superhero Filmmakers: Where's Our Watchmen?

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give more a little credit, I don't think realism was what he was going for with the book - its more a hyper-real interpretation of comic book tropes, kinda a halfway point between genre conventions and believable "realism"

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean I don't think anything in the book is remotely "credible" and why should it be.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ag44dRO8LEA

latebloomer, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i think it's more the latter, but either way it doesn't bother me much considering one of the novel's central characters is a nude, radioactive blue man.

Yeah, but Moore puts a lot of effort to make him into a believable radioactive blue man, whereas the ending somehow feels much less credible (for me, the fact that Moore had to back it up with the bit about the psychic's brain hints even he kinda doubted the whole resolution).

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Note that I'm not talking about literal realism rather than internal credibility. Even though Watchmen has some supernatural stuff in it, the way people act, and the way things begin to escalate into war is presented in a relatively realistic way, whereas compared to that Veidt's final resolution and the fact that it works (for now) seems much less believable.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Really don't want to see this happen at all...this and that Confederacy of Dunces movie they've been 'making' forever that stars (*cries*) Will Ferrel in a fat suit as Ignatius.

Abbott, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link

waht

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm with Tuomas on this one, actually.

Who knew.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

But Alan Moore has already appeared in The Simpsons as Krusty's father.

blueski, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.duffgardens.net/media/guests/character/rabbi1.gif

"Life isn’t divided into genres. It’s a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."

blueski, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link

kudos

David R., Wednesday, 25 July 2007 00:39 (sixteen years ago) link

watchmen (comic) (dense, multilayered narratives) is like the polar opposite of 300 (comic)(naked dudes w/ musculls kissingfighting) i don't get why anyone thinks Snyder's up to Watchmen based on 300, other than, y'know, um, no, actually, no reason at all.

Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:21 (sixteen years ago) link

exact moment in this revive when my heart sank:

"Cruise still possible for Veidt"

> the guy that did Maus whose name I forget

art spiegelman

koogs, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 08:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Today, The Hollywood Reporter published a confirmed list of actors for Watchmen. Jackie Earle Haley will play Rorschach, along with Billy Crudup (Dr Manhattan), Malin Akerman (Silk Spectre), Matthew Goode (Ozymandias), Patrick Wilson (Nite-Owl), and Jeffrey Dean Morgan (the Comedian).

http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/this-is-watchmen-casting-confirmed/

, Thursday, 26 July 2007 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know who any of those people are!

Tuomas, Thursday, 26 July 2007 09:20 (sixteen years ago) link

me neither! but at least tom cruise isnt one of them

, Thursday, 26 July 2007 09:21 (sixteen years ago) link

A quick check on IMDB reveals that most of those people are quite young for their roles. Though I guess you have to pick actors who are younger than the characters, if you want to include all those flashbacks.

Tuomas, Thursday, 26 July 2007 09:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Hold on, Patrick Wilson was in Hard Candy? That was a quite good performance, though based on that he would've been better as Rorschach.

Tuomas, Thursday, 26 July 2007 09:29 (sixteen years ago) link

i recognise Akerman as the freaky dude's wife in Harold & Kumar but only because i only just saw that the other week.

Earle Haley seems a bit old for Rorschach? tho i can't remember how old the guy is meant to be.

JD Morgan reminds me of Downey Jr - doesn't seem very Comediany.

but of course 'evil genius' Veidt has to be played by a Brit!

blueski, Thursday, 26 July 2007 09:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Rorschach is supposed to be fairly old, right?

> the guy that did Maus whose name I forget

art spiegelman

-- koogs, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 08:39 (Yesterday) Link

That was my guess! But I would have felt worse if I guessed and got it wrong so I just admitted I didn't really know.

jessie monster, Thursday, 26 July 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Also I am pretty sure this will be unwatchable.

jessie monster, Thursday, 26 July 2007 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

HAVE FAITH GOOBERS

David R., Thursday, 26 July 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Rorschach is in his mid-forties in the present day of the comic. As are all the other second generation superheroes, except for Silk Spectre II, who's a bit younger.

Tuomas, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

we will have no more of forgetting art spiegelman's name, ok?

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/cruz/10.06.99/gifs/spiegelman1-9940.jpg

art spiegelman
art spiegelman
art spiegelman

kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Also I am pretty sure this will be unwatchable.

Cue a million review headlines.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2007 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

pictures for comparison

http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/07/25/watchmen-casting-officially-confirmed-early/

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 July 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

this movie is going to tank like nobody's business. snyder will become more reviled than michael bay

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 July 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

LA LA LA NOT LISTENING

blueski, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

snyder will become more reviled than michael bay uwe boll

Phil D., Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

whadayamean Michael Bay still gets to make huge-budget movies

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

but yeah this is all wrong - those guys are all way too young and their inability to attract quality talent is, I'm sure, also indicative of how shitty the script must be

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

and their inability to attract quality talent is, I'm sure, also indicative of how shitty the script must be

or maybe it's because the studio know that putting a budget bigger than 300's behind this would be rather silly no matter how good the script is.

blueski, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

this movie is going to tank like nobody's business. snyder will become more reviled than michael bay

-- El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 July 2007 15:58 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

My god I hope so! Nightmare scenario - "watchmen" movie is a big hit, moviemakers trawl though Alan Moore's back catalog, "Halo Jones" movie is thus made AAARG NO NO NO NO nO!!!!!1!!

Pashmina, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha I eagerly await the Bojeffries Saga adaptation

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

those guys are all way too young

yep. Especially The Comedian. I do like Patrick Wilson, tho. What was he doing in a Gap commercial a few weeks ago?

kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post -- Orlando Bloom as Miracleman.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

is this a made-for-TV thing?

sexyDancer, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I can imagine this not being as good as 300 (not that i've seen it) due to story complexity and nothing else, but it will probably make more money than 300 regardless.

I never saw League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, remind me why it was such a poor adaptation?

blueski, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

oh god where to begin on the p.o.s.

kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

so where's Gerard Butler?

blueski, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

League was awful awful awful - basically bore no resemblance to the books, added characters, drastically changed others, different villain, different conclusion, different in tone and subtext, acting was terrible, way too much bad CGI, extraneous chase scenes, bad dialogue.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not that it's a bad adaptation so much as that it's just a painfully bad movie, full stop.

kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha I eagerly await the Bojeffries Saga adaptation

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:25 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

"The Stars my Degradation" dir. Tinto Brass could be good for some lolz, perhaps.

Pashmina, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

what kenan said
x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Nu-Cruise would have been perfect as Veidt!

Jordan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

My god I hope so! Nightmare scenario - "watchmen" movie is a big hit, moviemakers trawl though Alan Moore's back catalog, "Halo Jones" movie is thus made AAARG NO NO NO NO nO!!!!!1!!

Actually, out of Moore's major works Halo Jones would probably be the most easy to film (that or Top 10).

Tuomas, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Zalman King Presents: Alan Moore's The Cobweb

David R., Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Top 10 would make a better TV show.

sexyDancer, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

LOST GIRLS: THE ANIMATED SERIES

I would so watch THAT one.

Abbott, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link

A Top 10 TV series would be awesome! Wasn't it even divided into "Season 1" and "Season 2"?

Unfortunately comics-to-TV rarely seems to work, I can't think of any example where it would've been done properly, except The Maxx.

Tuomas, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Fish Police!

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link


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