The World Is POLLapsing Around Our Ears: REM's "Out of Time"

re: Losing My Religion - overexposure and it's just kind of louder and clangier than the rest of the album (aside from Radio Song, which also sticks out like a sore thumb). There's an even-ness to the other cuts that brings them together for me.

"Me In Honey" is so far and away the best song on here that I really feel obliged to vote for one of the other very, very good songs, mainly "Country Feedback" or "Half A World Away" or just the chorus of "Belong."

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo

That's a pretty strong album, though I don't remember the two side-closers at all. Country Feedback wins, I think. 'Belong' seemed hilarious to me and my pals at the time for some reason - probably Stipe's reportage-vocals. With REM, you have to take your laughs where you find them

"Endgame" is the "yaddy dadda da da da" one. Nice, part of the fabric of the album - would be interested if someone picked it as the best!

"Me In Honey" has Kate Pierson, pregnancy theme, bouncy but anxious guitar figure, drums kick in hard for the chorus: "Left me to loooove... what it's doin' to me-e-eeee!"

Would really vote for "Endgame", but "Losing My Religion" is just too strong not to vote for even though it's a boring pick.

I checked those out xp, both very nice. Half A World Away isn't quite as good as I remembered it (a little too repetitive), but the singing is committed and passionate and I think I'll vote for it instead. The songwriting is so strong on this album, and the sound of it is great - really rich and still quite unlike anything else I've heard. I do like to slag REM off for being too earnest and clever-clever, but these are very much strengths in the context of this album

Near Wild Heaven

I keep reading this thread title as "the world is prolapsing around our ears"

best r.e.m. album. first 3 track are great. voted "Radio Song." why? because it look interesting.

lol best REM album bollocks. "Near Wild Heaven" by fucking miles

it was a different time then. Bollocks is truly undeniable tho, sure.

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nice likeness. better watch them sweets tho, dude.

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mrs. vague ain't too happy about your appearance either, eh? understandable (poor girl).

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one more time...

low low low
low low low

no Kate Pierson no credibility

Their worst Bill Berry-era album. Buncha great songs but way too much filler. Any R.E.M. instrumental = filler, even if it has vocals of a sort (Endgame, Belong). "Low" feels unfinished, but I like the video. "Half a World Away" is OK for a not-remotely-as-good rewrite of "You Are the Everything." Sacrilege: I've never liked "Country Feedback." (Sacrilegier: I like "Radio Song.")

It's hard to prefer the studio "Country Feedback" after having heard various live versions, which are usually much, much better. I like this album, but I tend to skip almost half the songs (Radio Song, Endgame, Shiny Happy People, Belong, Half a World Away, if you were wondering), which isn't the case with most of their other albums. The songs that are left are great though.

"Country Feedback" for me.

"Me In Honey," Stipe minimalism at its most successful. Actually, "Me In Honey," "Low," and "Belong" might be the three most successful songs of this kind in their whole catalog.

It was hard not to vote for the vastly underappreciated "Shiny Happy People," but on an album with "Me In Honey" and "Belong" I can't justify putting it at the top. The other big pop numbers here -- LmR, "Near Wild Heaven," "Half a World Away," don't seem nearly as interesting as they did in the time -- they are the "Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite" and "Man in the Moon" of this record.

Never, ever got the hate directed at "Shiny Happy People." I was indifferent to this album for years despite loving "Low," "Me in Honey," and "Country Feedback," but returning to it at the beginning of the decade I was struck by how beautifully the strings are arranged, how warm Stipe and the band sound, and how the songs are more concrete than ever without losing their mystery. Christgau nailed it:

Hiding political tics behind faux-formalist boilerplate, pop aesthetes accused them of imposing Solidarity and Agent Orange on their musical material, but in fact such subjects signaled an other-directedness as healthy as Michael Stipe's newfound elocution. Admittedly, with this one beginning "The world is collapsing around our ears," I wondered briefly whether "Losing My Religion" was about music itself, but when Stipe says they thought about calling it Love Songs, he's not just mumbling "Dixie." Being R.E.M., they mean to capture moods or limn relationships rather than describe feelings or, God knows, incidents, and while some will find the music too pleasing, it matches the words hurt for hurt and surge for surge. The Kate Pierson cameos, the cellos, and Mark Bingham's organic string arrangements are Murmur without walls--beauty worthy of DeBarge, of the sweetest soukous, of a massed choir singing "I Want To Know What Love Is."

Jawbox's cover of "Low" redeemed that song for me.

Nonetheless, I voted for "Texarkana".

Near Wild Heaven

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I'm going with "Near Wild Heaven," but this is where I got off the R.E.M. bus. At this moment they irrevocably turned the corner. The sound of a band that enjoyed playing together completely vanished, replaced by the sound of utter indifference, a complete lack of tension and excitement, and absolutely everything that made them special gone forever.

I mean, for me their peak was Reckoning and their too-fast-for-the-rails live shows around that time. When touring ground down their resolve, that listlessness transferred over to their studio work in the worst way(s).

wow how did I miss this poll? I've been on the road a lot lately I guess.

I absolutely love this album, have since the day it came out. I voted for "Endgame" over "Near Wild Heaven", for the gorgeous arrangement and the feel: I spend about 30% of my life feeling like this song. Is that a flugelhorn? I dare not say anything else for risk of making a fool of myself.

these clothes don't fit us right

I still think it's "Losing My Religion," although I really wouldn't mind if I never listen to it again.

which button means the whole album is terrible?

"Country Feedback" for how evocative the line "these clothes don't fit us right" is...

swear I wrote that without seeing mookie's post.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Nice spread of results! Thanks for participating everybody.

How many people's second choice was "Belong"?

I would have voted for "Belong" third.

Today is the kind of day where all I want to hear is the chorus of "Belong," over and over. Clear open blue sky, her breath, this song...Belong. OOOOoooooooOOoOooOOOOO

Ha, "Radio Song" got lots of love, relatively speaking, and it's not just one of the worst R.E.M. songs, but one of the worst songs from a major act, ever.

This album and "Green" always surprise me when I put them on. "Document," too, to an extent. One third great, one third not, and one third songs I forgot were on there but which I'm happy to hear again once in a while.

favourite deep cut on this is probably Texarkana

The storm it came up strong
And shook the trees
And blew away our fear

^ what i would've voted

half a world away
losing my religion
near wild heaven
country feedback
texarkana
me in honey
shiny happy people
endgame
belong
radio song
low

It would have been between 'Half A World Away' and 'Near Wild Heaven' for me. Unsure which one I would have went for.

Their worst Bill Berry-era album

I'm going to keep posting this bit of rongness

OK, how about "Stipe's worst Bill Berry-era album, rescued by Mills"?

I think you meant to say "Green."

Well OK, Green plus Monster would complete the trilogy-of-the-lessers, but at least Stipe showed up for the whole album on those two.

"worst Bill Berry-era album" works for me

I've been going through old videotapes lately. Got this one where I'm just filming from my dorm window a big evening thunderstorm, lightning and students running in from the parking lot.

Classic rock station on in the background. Final seconds of "Losing My Religion" providing the soundtrack. That was just a dream. Just a dream. Just a dream. Dream. Peter Buck's mandolin trails off.

Then it's KCMQ Q-96 followed right by ... "Enter Sandman" by Metallica.

1992 was such a different place.

They totally did "White Tornado" live I think

I love so many things about "Belong," but right now I am just going to single out the bass fill before the chorus. Took me a long time to realize that it is simply a descending G major scale. Deceptively simple, slightly syncopated, tasty in the extreme.

YES! That part, for me, is actually one of the hooks of the song!

I've been going through old videotapes lately. Got this one where I'm just filming from my dorm window a big evening thunderstorm, lightning and students running in from the parking lot.

Classic rock station on in the background. Final seconds of "Losing My Religion" providing the soundtrack. That was just a dream. Just a dream. Just a dream. Dream. Peter Buck's mandolin trails off.

Then it's KCMQ Q-96 followed right by ... "Enter Sandman" by Metallica.

1992 was such a different place.

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put that on youtube

yeah that bass fill on belong is so great. i worked it out on keyboard at some point for a totally unfinished and shitty cover version, and ever since it's been something i'll hum to myself independently in the shower or whatever. doot-doot, dee doo doo doo, doot doot doot

w-w-whaaat? Can't believe "Near Wild Heaven" polled this high! Worst song on the album for me.

No one will ever agree like we did in 1991 that "Radio Song" was the first.

As a fan Mills’ vocal is affecting; I can see why others would sneer.

also whatever happened to Ismael Klata, that was a good poster

Country Feedback, Half a World Away, and LMR are the three keepers for me.

I am also surprised that NWH is that high. But Deadbeat Club is my favorite B52s song and it kind of has the same vibe so I guess I can see it now.

Just looked up where they filmed it and never realized it was at Spring Lounge in nyc.

belong was the first track that grabbed me back then, but i'm sure i ended up voting for country feedback

I really really like "Radio Song" including the KRS-One part, don't know why I haven't mentioned that in this thread

I love Near Wild Heaven. Sounds like how I imagine the Beach Boys could have sounded in 1991 if they'd all still been around and functioning.

I like Belong too

When I first heard this album I was still quite young and new to alternative rock music, so I didn't know much about what REM looked like. In my head I imagined Michael Stipe looked like Robin Williams. I still think of Robin Williams when I hear 'Endgame' somehow

I also like “Radio Song” à lot, all of it, and have probably said so way too many times on this message board.

Dammit, if I had seen this thread in time I would have voted for Near Wild Heaven and thus pushed it over the top as unchallenged number one.

I never took to Radio Song. I get that they liked rap at the time and wanted to tip their hat to the genre in some way, but it makes about as much sense as Stipe turning up on a hip-hop track. It just doesn't work, and at the very least it certainly shouldn't have been the opening track. (The cascading jangly riff on the chorus is good though.)

Haven't heard it in years but "Out of Time" was my first-ever cd I got (I was 11 when it came out). Strangely, it was on Top 40 radio as well as "alternative" radio programs. The same thing happened later when "Nevermind" came out. Rather than picking separate songs it's the overall production and baroque sounds/arrangements that make it a highlight of their career. I wonder what the poll results would have been with "Fretless" being an album track. I remember Buck saying it should have been on the album.

surprised Low polled as poorly as it did.

losing my religion towers so many miles above the rest of the album that overexposure can't do it any harm. and i was so much in love with an rem fan at the time that it hurt.

It's crazy what you could have had if you had 5 more voters, but as it was, you were not near enough.

Yeah LMR is a very special track for me too, in a coming of age way. It was so ubiquitous during the summer of 91 and I still feel emotional when I listen to it (rarely though).
That said, there are other great tracks on the album.

that Unplugged where Michael wears a stupid hat with snaps on the side.

1991-core... barn jacket & shorts, perched on that stool... doing those weird little hand flick motions he was into at this time... luv it

every time At 10:35 on an early summer's morning, John Lanchester sat down at his study desk, switched on his new Dell computer, opened up the word processing programme that the computer had come with and began reappears in sna, i think

those creatures jumped the barricades and headed for the sea
sea

so many of my weirdo friends skipped school to buy this on release day that one of the principals thought something was going down and we all had to talk to the counselor and have our mental health confirmed

Yer old.

tempus fugit dept.: released 30 years ago today. a rare song in that I can recall exactly where & how I first heard it (my freshman dorm room; on WFNX) & what I first thought ("that's pretty good--wonder if it'll be a hit, there's a lot of mandolin on it") pic.twitter.com/ejEksBvfGm

— Bowiesongs (@bowiesongs) February 19, 2021

Pitchfork Mark, in the replies, wants to make sure the world knows he's lukewarm on the song.

30th for the album

ffs

I am listening to this album in full for the first time ever right now. “Radio Song” and “Shiny Happy People” are universally reviled as the band’s nadir when “Endgame” and “Belong” are RIGHT THERE?!

Fucking hell is “Me in Honey” a great song.

I like Me In Honey as a closer, there are two or three more obvious choices but they made the right decision

"Belong" rules

otm

“Radio Song” and “Shiny Happy People” are universally reviled as the band’s nadir

Is this true? “Endgame” is kinda weak as a “song,” but I guess it sounded ok at the time, as some texture…

i like endgame, would like it better if it had been arranged/produced in the style of pretty much any other era of good REM though, and if it lost the "lead" vocal

I haven't listened to radio song on purpose in years, but I heard it on the radio, and I kind of thought, eh, if it had no KRS One it might be okay.

"Belong," "Shiny Happy People," and "Radio Song" are all better than "Losing My Religion"

(none of these are as great as "Me In Honey" obviously, I'm not a madman)

Oh I just realized I have already said all this in this thread again and again over the years, sorry

I like "Half a World Away" and could do without every other song on this. R.E.M.'s weakest record.

Texarkana -> Country Feedback -> Me in Honey

greatest 3 song run in their catalog imo

The top two are correct. In fact I might even go so far as to say they're all time top 5 REM for me

I think I like every song on here. Even Radio Song I really don't mind. I can give or take LMR though

Give or take? Take or leave

Went looking for Spitting Image's 'Whiny Crappy People' parody but it's not on Youtube. I recall it had Mike Mills as the lead vocalist, playing double bass like in the SHP video. Why?

Texarkana -> Country Feedback -> Me in Honey

greatest 3 song run in their catalog imo

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