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a) requested username - sirdropsalot8293
b) first name - Dan
c) age - 20
d) gender - male
e) geographic location - London, UK

1 invite needed please!

email: s0569✧✧✧@s✧✧.e✧.a✧.u✧

thank you lovely people.

Sirdropsalot, Friday, 11 May 2007 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

dunno why my email went weird like that, will try again just in case...

s0569067 (at) sms.ed.ac.uk

Sirdropsalot, Friday, 11 May 2007 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

The e-mail is showing up just fine on our end. Can you try and re-send the Rocism Essay, Cat Power pic, and Sufjan v Deerhoof Essay? They seem to have been dropped in transmission.

Thanks!

Oink Administrator, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Hi Mr. Oink Administrator,

I never heard back from you in regards to my Oink application. I'm assuming this is because I was rejected for some reason, but I would appreciate if you'd like me know for sure.

Thank you and kind regards,

anoushka

anoushka, Saturday, 12 May 2007 01:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey guys! I am confused when you say the Rockissm Essay, Cat Power pic, and Sufjan V Deerhoof Essay is missing. So I'm going to repost my application

a) igigfufu
b) Michael
c) 23
d) Male
e) California

1) Pillows – Penalty Life; Kooks – Inside In/Inside Out; Goldfinger – Stomping Ground

2) Rockism is the ideology that some popular music is more authentic than others. Originating from the British press in the early 1980s; Rockism is suspicious of the use of non traditional instrumental equipment. This includes both physical and spiritual properties used in the creation of music. Synthesizers and “Easy-Make” tools are frowned upon. The same applies to to “manufactured pop music.” Rocksim proponents argue that such music is created on assembly lines by hired record producers; thus creating soulless and inferior music. Subsequently, all commercialized music is regarded as impure. As stated earlier, this applies to all music, not just rock itself. One may be “Rockist,” yet express a genuine passion for R&B in a “rockist” style. A noted subtext of Rockism states that, at one point in time, “They got it right.” Rockists cite a period of time (generally accepted as the 1960sor 1970s) in which music was in its purest form; namely rock. Although there are many ways to define Rockism, meaning there is no absolute interpretation of it, the overall premise is rock is the norm of popular music.

3) http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/cat_power_chanel.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens. Although Deerhoof is interesting as well, I find the music difficult to get in touch with. Sufjan Stevens speaks with heart and soul; this is portrayed through both his usage of sound and lyrics. In addition to this, he ventures into the use of various sounds and playing styles with his music. Although the same is true (if not to a greater extent) for Deerhoof; the music feels more like a collage or cut and paste operation of various sounds. Whereas these new and unique sounds may please the ears of some, I find it troublesome. The music is all over the place, and therefore, retains a minimal amount of passion. Although I prefer Sufjan Stevens; both artists are unique and fantastic in their own way. In the end, however, the eye-opening lyrics of Sufjan Stevens topple the whimsical tunes of Deerhoof.

5) 1 invite please

my email is

whattheho✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Much Thanks!

igigfufu, Saturday, 12 May 2007 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

anoushka-

I am showing your account as approved and active.

Welcome!

-Oink

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 12 May 2007 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Dear oink administrator, it appears that this forum is still active. If so, I might as well stake my claim.

a) marclay
b) Eliot
c) 24
d) male
e) austin, tx


1) Frank Zappa - Thing-Fish (Pre-release version)
The Ramones - Rocket to Russia (reissue)
The Rolling Stones - The Rolling Stones No. 2

2) What is rockism?

What is rockism? Not an answer, but a response: Rockism is a form of ludicrous snobbery in the form of scene trendsetting based on a code of nonsense that nonetheless explains the deteriorization of Aerosmith from Mama Kin to whatever they are now. Musicians play rock quartet/quintet instruments (guitar(s), bass, drums, keys(?)), feign that genius-ness of Bob Dylan with the Band live 1966 period, the fans must face the CBGB's toilets smell to get their fix. More simply, Rockism is a snobbery that "Rock" music is the best kind of music. Radio pop, with its pseudo-individuation, is devalued not for its lack of complexity but for its lack of simplicity. Paradoxically, middle aged "indie band" men are therefore returning to their pop-rock simplicity detroit rock city fonzie roots and singing about high school--the authentic rockist perspective must be young, and preferably ignorant of the "real world." The pseduo-indiviudal has grown up but must grow to be an eternal child, in other words. I find this all very embarrasing.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.worlds-fair.net/mail/images/IMG_1379catpower.JPG

with Devendra.

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

I have tried to live Sufjan, but the self-conscious singer-songwriter thing is played out for me at the moment. The giant wings he has been attaching to himself in recent concerts was really the last straw. However, I do enjoy his Christmas club music. Deerhoof, by contrast, is consistently engaging and GENUINELY fun even if they are pretentious as well. That little Japanese chick can really belt it out. The tunes get stuck in my head, so I sing out like her in public sometimes. Just that bit of life experience has added greatly to my self-esteem. And they are getting better, too.

5) How many invites do you require?

1

Confirmed Oink invites (or rejections) will be posted here in 1-3 working days. Check back here at that time, requests to expedite the approval process will result in immediate rejection.

wdstck, Sunday, 13 May 2007 05:49 (sixteen years ago) link

username babamert
age 23
loc: TURKEY
gender male
first name baba

mertpao [at] gmail .com

wait u

babamert, Sunday, 13 May 2007 08:19 (sixteen years ago) link

username babamert
age 23
loc: TURKEY
gender male
first name baba

mertpao [at] gmail .com

babamert, Sunday, 13 May 2007 08:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Hi Mr. Oink Admin,

I'm approved? Yippppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :))) Thank you so much, you made my day! Unfortunately I never did receive the Oink invite in my email, so I don't know how my account could possibly be showing as active?

Thanks again, I'm so excited to have the opportunity to be a part of Oink!

~anoushka

anoushka, Sunday, 13 May 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

anoushka check your junk email

jergïns, Sunday, 13 May 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

wait u

g®▲Ðұ, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Hello Mr Oink admin!
Thought it best to check with you about any progress. Have patiently waited and checked back regularly to see if there was an invite coming my way? Didnt want to be pushy or annoying!
Thank you for your time!

bisto_ie, Sunday, 13 May 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Oink Administrator, if you have any invites left, I'd love to receive one. Thanks!

a) jordanobob
b) jordan
c) 26
d) male
e) flintstone, ga


1) Cold War Kids - Robbers & Cowards
Fields - Everything Last Winter
The Little Ones - Sing Song EP

2) What is rockism?

What is rockism? People have their own opinions about music. To try and describe one's favorite music as superior to others is what is commonly meant by rockism. The strict-constructionist definition of rockism is an exaltation of the mythology of '60s and early '70s rock - teenage boys with guitars working out their feelings on paper in the afternoon and shouting them through microphones at night. (The loose-constructionist definition calls rockism an exaltation of any form of music on pseudo-objective grounds.) Rockism usually includes a derisive sneer toward some other form of music, usually whatever is currently popular on the charts.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.hi.is/~peturv/catpower.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Sufjan Stevens is a failed writer, an expert folder (he can wrestle a fitted sheet into a perfect square), and an admirer of Brahms symphonies. Sufjan admits to having borrowed the concept of Friend Rock from his good friend Sonny Aronson, who admits to having stolen it from his friend Cheryl Botchick (former editor of CMJ New Music Report), who may or may not have gleaned the term from the gossipy pages of NME Magazine, the editors of which often claim to have coined every fleeting and faddish term in the music industry since the 1970s, although we know that just is not true.

Deerhoof on the other hand, is refreshing! And there’s little attention to formal, Berkeley-style musicianship. But their persistent reinvention of their sound, even within individual songs, is reminiscent of the kind of jittery musical unrest that recalls Miles Davis and John Coletrane, and the less smoothly orchestrated output of early King Crimson.


5) How many invites do you require?

1

Indiemusicman, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Didnt want to be pushy or annoying!

yeah, you're not annoying at all

jergïns, Monday, 14 May 2007 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Jordanobob/Indiemusicianman, killer application there. A few admins here are still on the fence about you though, you could improve your chances greatly by posting a link to an mp3 or streaming sample of music you've created.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 14 May 2007 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Oink Admin--

I am sorry to confuse you with my response to your question, but I did not plagerize.... I was sitting and writing what I thought about your question. It is possible for an individual to have an original idea.... obviously if you cant a place where I "got it from" than maybe it was actually produced by me..... Anyways, I guess I will keep an eye out for weather or not I got an invite. I hope you have a lovely day,

Kristen

Kford1, Monday, 14 May 2007 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Kristen-

Well, it was such a well-written essay on Christian Heavy Metal that I automatically assumed it was lifted from a Jess Harvell or Ned Raggett essay somewhere on the web.

Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on Islamic Hip Hop?

Eagerly awaiting your well-written opinion,

-Oink Addy

Oink Administrator, Monday, 14 May 2007 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Kristen - post pix plz

am0n, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

the 3 p's of OiNK

am0n, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 04:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Oink Administrator,

Thanks for the response. I’m really interested in getting an Oink invite! I’m sorry but I haven’t created any torrents (not quite there yet). I am however an excellent seeder. I’m a member of Libble.com and I have a 1:1 ratio with over 4.5gb down\up. I may not be able to create new torrents, but I sure can help others get them. I’m not sure if that means anything to you or not?

Thanks,

Indiemusicman, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

:) Indiemusicman, cool namez :)

Confounded, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Indiemusicianman,

You are misunderstanding me. I'm not interested in seeding or ratios (you could do better than 1:1), I'm interesting in hearing the music that you create. What instrument do you play? Where is that sample?

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

am0n--

What picture would you like me to post. I already posted one of Cat Power in my application from a while ago.

Is it necessary for me to post another picture for an invite...?

Oink Admin--

I am contemplating the nature of your question concerning Islamic Hip Hop, and I will post my response shortly.

Kristen

Kford1, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Looking foreword to it!!!!

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey guys, I was just wondering, but, I haven't heard a response on whether my application was approved or denied. I would love to find if I was or wasn't, and if not, why?

Much thanks, igigfufu

igigfufu, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link

igigfufu-

We did not receive your application.

Cheers!

-Oinkz

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 01:52 (sixteen years ago) link

am0n--

What picture would you like me to post. I already posted one of Cat Power in my application from a while ago.


ur pix. amirite Oink Admin

am0n, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

u rite, am0n.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:42 (sixteen years ago) link

a)AscensionCub
b)Ben
c)18
d)male
e)Grand Blanc,Michigan

1)- All Is Well Ends Well
- Southern Weather
- They're Only Chasing Safety

2) Rockism is a term that came about in the early 80's. Kind of became and "ideology" that critiqued popular music. There isn't one true definition of of it. People have judged it because of the meaning behind the term and have considered it "musical racism" All it was , was an opinion. Some people in my own thoughts took it to far when they complained about it.

3)www.flattire.org/archives/.../
austin_city_lim.html

4) My apologies, but the only thing I know is that Sufjun Stevens is from Michigan. I have no idea who Deerhoof is at all. Again I am sorry that I have not complied completely with this question.

5) I only require 1 invite. Much would be appreciated. If this helps my ratio is 1.78 on Demonoid. And I apologize for posting another site, but I have just heard you guys are the best of best.

Kellum0217, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:48 (sixteen years ago) link

We are the best of the best.

Therefore, there is no room for people who can not follow instructions.

Your application has been rejected.

You may re-apply in 30 days.

Thank You for your understanding.

-Oink A

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:55 (sixteen years ago) link

a)Quantum Thrust
b)Charlene
c)27
d)Female
e)Columbus,Ohio

1) All We Know Is Falling
All Is Well Ends Well
When Broken Is Easily Fixed

2) Rockism has several different ideals. One being the idea of criticizing music. Also the idea of that music should be natural. Thus being compared to Stuckism which is where artists that don't paint aren't considered artists. Rockism has been attacked by people saying it's "musical racism" and "straight white male chauvinism." People who are a believer in Rockism like it when they have most freedom in the music process. Thus allowing them to be themselves.

3) jonathan.greer.users.btopenworld.com

4) Sufjun Stevens hands down. Deerhoof irritated me a long time ago with vocals. Stevens vocals are grand. The guy is a spectacular indie artist. I have found his music to be quite original. I love the fact that he is capable of playing a wide variety of instruments. Stevens as I have listened to him has catchy lyrics and sound. I look forward to seeing what he has in store over the years.

5) 1 invite is requested and thank you for your consideration.

Fallen Shinden, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Here is my application again.

a) igigfufu
b) Michael
c) 23
d) Male
e) California

1) Pillows – Penalty Life; Kooks – Inside In/Inside Out; Goldfinger – Stomping Ground

2) Rockism is the ideology that some popular music is more authentic than others. Originating from the British press in the early 1980s; Rockism is suspicious of the use of non traditional instrumental equipment. This includes both physical and spiritual properties used in the creation of music. Synthesizers and “Easy-Make” tools are frowned upon. The same applies to to “manufactured pop music.” Rocksim proponents argue that such music is created on assembly lines by hired record producers; thus creating soulless and inferior music. Subsequently, all commercialized music is regarded as impure. As stated earlier, this applies to all music, not just rock itself. One may be “Rockist,” yet express a genuine passion for R&B in a “rockist” style. A noted subtext of Rockism states that, at one point in time, “They got it right.” Rockists cite a period of time (generally accepted as the 1960sor 1970s) in which music was in its purest form; namely rock. Although there are many ways to define Rockism, meaning there is no absolute interpretation of it, the overall premise is rock is the norm of popular music.

3) http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/cat_power_chanel.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens. Although Deerhoof is interesting as well, I find the music difficult to get in touch with. Sufjan Stevens speaks with heart and soul; this is portrayed through both his usage of sound and lyrics. In addition to this, he ventures into the use of various sounds and playing styles with his music. Although the same is true (if not to a greater extent) for Deerhoof; the music feels more like a collage or cut and paste operation of various sounds. Whereas these new and unique sounds may please the ears of some, I find it troublesome. The music is all over the place, and therefore, retains a minimal amount of passion. Although I prefer Sufjan Stevens; both artists are unique and fantastic in their own way. In the end, however, the eye-opening lyrics of Sufjan Stevens topple the whimsical tunes of Deerhoof.

5) 1 invite please

my email is

whattheho✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Much Thanks!

I also sent it to you just incase!

Much Thanks!

igigfufu, Thursday, 17 May 2007 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Oink Administrator,

Sorry I haven't responded, busy with work. In regard to your question, I don't play any instruments (just a boombox). I paint houses and work hard, but I love listening to good music, preferably indie music. I hear oink is a great source and I'd love to be a part of the community (and appreciate it). Let me know and I'll give you my email address.

Thanks,

Indiemusicman, Saturday, 19 May 2007 02:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Jesus fucking christ.

At least post a picture of a house you've painted.

-Oink A

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 19 May 2007 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok,

Here ya go: http://greeneresidential.com/pictures/repairs/Repairs12.jpg

The dormers were particularly rough on this one.

Thanks,

Indiemusicman, Saturday, 19 May 2007 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

lol what are "dormers"?

g®▲đұ, Saturday, 19 May 2007 03:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Indiemusicianman,

Since you misrepresented yourself in regards to playing an instrument, we now have a 6th question for you. Put honesty before brevity.

Is Brian a fair boss? Describe his managerial style (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum).

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 19 May 2007 03:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Oink Admin,

Brian Greene is a really cool guy! I've worked with him off and on for the last four years now. He's more of a friend than a boss. I go camping with him and some of our other friends quite often. If I could bid a job like him, I wouldn't need to work for him. I know how to paint, but he knows how to price a job. He's a good manager, good people skills, fair prices. On a side note, I also designed the company logo,webpage, and T-shirt. Anyway, If you decide I'm worthy of an invite, here's my email address: indiemusic✧✧✧@hotm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Thanks,
Thanks,

Indiemusicman, Saturday, 19 May 2007 03:33 (sixteen years ago) link

omg

jergïns, Saturday, 19 May 2007 08:28 (sixteen years ago) link

a) I know, right?
b) Tiarnan
c) 20
d) male
e) Ireland

1) Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
Snoop Dogg - R&G
Buckingham Nicks - Coffeeplant Demos

2) What is rockism? Rockism is an critical term for the ideology which promotes rock music as the superior genre of Music. Citing values which are specific to rock music such as writing your own songs and playing your own instruments, which are not so important in genres such as disco, pop, Hip Hop and dance music as the most important factors in musical quality. The focus on authenticity amongst rock music means that "manufactured" pop groups are seen as frivolous in comparison. As rock music has traditionally been dominated by white men, some have argued that the ideologies that form rockism are inherently racist. The poptimist movement, therefore, could be seen to mirror the feminist art history promoted by Roszita Parks and Griselda Pollock, which sought to find new contexts for art history, which did not marginalise women artists.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power http://www.newcenter.com/tastefest/2006/media/photos/MOTORCITY_CASINO_MAIN_STAGE/CAT%20POWER%20&%20THE%20MEMPHIS%20RHYTHM%20BAND.jpg a classic admittedly, but still very lovely.

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Deerhoof. While I have, in the past, had time for Sufjan Stevens' Illinois, which at times matches the sweeping ambition that drives it (Sondheim unplugged is my favourite description), the indie rock sugar rush that Deerhoof have plyed across their substantial studio releases, is a firm favourite of mine. The guitar psychotics, arhythmical drums and droning cute-girl vocals take the best pop music apart and put it back together in a way that's crooked, spooky and full of fun neon giddiness. Holy Night Fever is one those songs that you dance to the guitar line for! And their last album was probably the best one yet, if only for Kidz are so Small. The music they make gets better the more it characatures itself.

5) How many invites do you require? 1

I know, right?, Saturday, 19 May 2007 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link

you're a normal ("normal") ilxor, not a googler, aren't you?

jergïns, Saturday, 19 May 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I know, right? = Hailey from my third period Orang Group study hall?

Hey IRE! It's May 2007 -- so what do you look like?

sanskrit, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:59 (sixteen years ago) link

WHUD UP BOO?

sanskrit, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:59 (sixteen years ago) link

a) requested username: Fromez
b) first name: Mel
c) age: 23
d) gender: Male
e) geographic location: Newcastle, England

1) Name three shared albums: Rock Plaza Central - Are We Not Horses; Arrah and the Ferns- Evan is a Vegan; Blonde Redhead - 23

2) Despite its title, Rockism is a deceptive term. I don't think it comments so much on rock and roll as on music as a whole. And in these terms, rockism is an intelligent discourse. Though not quite my cup of tea.

I like its message of music purity, having emphasis on musicians making the music for the music's sake and not for commercial reasons. Also, purity can cue arguments about natural instruments versus synthesisers and other artificial sounds.

It's a mixed concept though for me because I'm a fan of Susumu Yokota, who uses many traditional Japanese instruments, as well as Vangelis. But then you can excuse Vangelis' work because of his artistic intent. I'm a fan of Christina Aguilera as well as Espers, but how do you define Christina's artistic intent? On the other hand, I'm sure you could waffle on about the merits of any album under the sun, and argue "My Humps" is intended to be a ironic pro-feminist essay on depiction of women in mass culture.

I think while music causes intellectual responses in you, I don't think music itself should be interpreted in an overly intellectual way, more on emotion. You can listen to an album and like it, or you can go to Pitchfork, see it has a 6.2 score and decide you don't.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power: http://www.newcenter.com/tastefest/2006/media/photos/MOTORCITY_CASINO_MAIN_STAGE/CAT%20POWER%20&%20THE%20MEMPHIS%20RHYTHM%20BAND.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? I like both. However, being a fellow Steiner school graduate I have to go for Sufjan Stevens. And Deerhunter eats Deerhoof for breakfast. More seriously, on a musical note I think his concept of creating albums inspired by all of the states of America is restricting him. It's an interesting concept but he's too good to be restricted but I think I'd like to see him tackle a subject that makes him passionate, and to have these passions come across in his music. He's a more interesting musician than Deerhoof because his influences go beyond just his own music, and I like that he's created a circle of collaborators like Danielson, Rosie Thomas etc.
5) How many invites do you require? 1.
lucibel_mel*at*hotmail.com

Fromez, Monday, 21 May 2007 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link

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learn to seed, homie!!!

jergïns, Monday, 21 May 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link

truuuuuuu

Confounded, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:19 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah you too biznatch

a/k/a Mr. "0.000"

Confounded, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link


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