i was listening to "abacab" the other day...it's such a weird album, sort of mainstream 80s pop, but there's still odd structural and instrumental passages that betray that they used to be prog chops dudes, strange mix and i kind of love it...there's a weird subgenre of music like this, all the prog dudes really embraced the 80s, like the 80s yes albums, and asia, stuff like that...maybe rush's 80s albums like signals and grace under pressure have that same vibe (tho rush wasn't really prog exactly)
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QZOc-DbE5ko
― Lolpez, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link
"the "gangsta" way he dealt with his wife's affair with his decorator (ie, an ultra-spiteful appearance on TOTP with a tin of paint on the piano)."
anyone have a youtube of this?
― r1o natsume, Monday, 14 January 2008 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link
i was listening to "abacab" the other day...it's such a weird album, sort of mainstream 80s pop, but there's still odd structural and instrumental passages that betray that they used to be prog chops dudes, strange mix and i kind of love it...
This goes for a lot of late 70s/early 80s AOR by musicians with a prog background. Not a fan of "Abacab" though.
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 14 January 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link
What are some other good examples of prog bands getting poppy, yet remaining great?
The best I can think of is Le Orme's late '70s albums (particularly 'Storia O Leggenda'). They always seemed more inspired to me compared to their more famous early '70s work.
― Patrick South, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
All Rush from '78-82
― Bill Magill, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd forgotten about these when I revived, but here's some PC "fan fiction" that might appeal to readers of this thread. See if you can spot the familiar ILXor in the second one!
They must have thought we had a butler.
There is a married bachelor, therefore the moon is made of green cheese.
― dr. phil, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Enter Kogan, a Hispanic (we won't insult him by assuming Mexican) haircutter and zapatarist who owns the joint and digs the Latin hip hop.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 07:46 (sixteen years ago) link
It's easy to only remember In The Air Tonight on Miami Vice, but he did convincingly portray a coke dealer creep aswell!
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Defend Phil Collins
No.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link
never ban Bo Jackson Overdrive
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 03:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Bo is rong. Wind & Wuthering is reason enough to not murder Phil Collins completely.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 03:56 (sixteen years ago) link
well actually I did like A Trick of the Tail and Abacab. My vitriol is mostly for his solo career (although yes, "in the air tonight" ist neato)
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Pigeons Ep was good genesis past Wind and Wuthering.
― CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 03:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I'll admit to not having heard Wind and Wuthering so I have no opinion on it.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 03:58 (sixteen years ago) link
on some Who video he's interviewed about keith moon's death. he said, "yeah, when i heard about it, i called up townshend and said, 'listen...'" right here you think he's gonna say, "i'm really sorry about keith, he was amazing, my condolences" etc. etc. nope. he says, "listen, if you need a drummer...."
he had his moments, but phil in the Who fills me with terror. nonetheless, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkOLi7iXR1k
― Lawrence the Looter, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link
My vitriol is mostly for his solo career
TS forgiving talented people for turning shit because they were good once vs burning them for turning shit
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Tough decision
Phil Collins solo: "In The Air Tonight" and the entire "Face Value" album "Thru These Walls", "I Don't Care Anymore" and several great songs from the followup "Against All Odds" "Take Me Home" (and some lesser known gems from the same album such as "Long Long Way")
Nuff said.
Admittedly, it has been pretty depressive from the 90s onwards though.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link
He sounded great on a recent reunion tour recording I heard. Especially on oldies like "In The Cage". I have no stomach for ballads a la "Hold On My Heart", etc, tho. Still, I Defend the man!
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, and Wind And Wuthering is excellent.
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Best ever album to play on a cold windy morning.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 05:21 (sixteen years ago) link
phil doesn't need you guys
bone thugs got his back
― tramp steamer, Friday, 18 January 2008 04:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i have affection for his first three solo albums, which my dad played endlessly when i were wee.
― stevie, Friday, 18 January 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link
"Easy Lover" and "In The Air Tonight" are probably better than your favorite singer's best songs. "Land of Confusion" too for that matter. I know nothing about his drumming but I don't care about prog rock at all. He should have always been making pop music.
The restaurant I'm currently working at recently hosted a party (complete with a DJ) for a bunch of teachers and administrators from a local highschool, with about 70% of the attendees being black people in their 30's and 40's. The DJ put on "Easy Lover" at one point and it was just like he put on Cameo or something. Good Times.
― DustinR, Saturday, 19 January 2008 01:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Land of Confusion was a Genesis t00n! booyah! (not that he probably didn't have most of the say behind it, but)....
....don't care about prog rock?
...DON'T CARE ABOUT PROG ROCK?
Selling England by the Pound > every Phil Collins solo album!
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 19 January 2008 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link
"Easy Lover" and "In The Air Tonight" are probably better than your favorite singer's best songs
fuck yes. this has been stuck in my head for days and i don't mind one bit
― winstonian (winston), Friday, 13 February 2009 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Gated drums and his daughter is cute.
― Popture, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
His music doesn't sound the least bit stale....I have to give him credit for that.
― u s steel, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
"Behind the Lines" is in my head right now. The solo version allegedly inspired by listening to high-speed rewind of the midtempo band version. It is a good track. I'm also thinking about some of the more spacious and well-constructed fills in "I Missed Again."
― Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link
phil noooooo
http://www.spinner.com/2009/09/10/phil-collins-may-never-drum-again-due-to-spinal-injury
― suzi cointreau (electricsound), Monday, 14 September 2009 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Awww what. I mean he'd retired anyway after the last tour... now I wonder if that was why? but still its sad when injury affects a person's main kill/talent.
― Dearth Disco (Trayce), Monday, 14 September 2009 05:35 (fourteen years ago) link
He was brilliant in A Hard Days Night.
― billstevejim, Monday, 14 September 2009 06:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i've had Take Me Home in my head every day for a month
― akm, Friday, 20 November 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbkL4OKcZCQ
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 29 October 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
the Brand X stuff is kinda stuffy fusiony jive, but i also kinda dig it and phil is NEXT LEVEL drums on that
― underrated joe perry project albums i have sold (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 October 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
I like Phil but what in the heck happened to his voice on 'Going Back'?
― Just breaking it in, feels comfy (MintIce), Friday, 29 October 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Dunno. I think "Going Back" is a surprisingly good album. A much better 2010 covers album than Peter Gabriel did, which surprises me in a way because I didn't expect Phil top top Peter in 2010 (well... didn't ever, in fact...)
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 29 October 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Phil Collins contemplates suicide, the Alamo, and camera artifacts that disguise themselves as paranormal energy
(you think I'm joking here?)
― Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
"Phil Collins will just disappear or be murdered in some hotel bedroom, and people will say, 'What happened to Phil?' And the answer will be, 'He got murdered, but, yeah, anyway, let's carry on.' That kind of thing."
In a cosmic sense this is true, I guess. But among other things he is ignoring who will win an Oscar for their tender and sensitive portrayal of Phil Collins getting shot in a hotel bedroom.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Meryl Streep?
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Dir. by Todd Haynes
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Tonight...
Tagline: He didn't see it coming.
as a sidenote: the covers album has been a surprise commercial success (what else is new). Following in the footsteps of McDonald, Stewart, etc, yawn.
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Easy Lover will get pretty much any party going.
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
As does his cover of "You Can't Hurry Love."
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I agree it isn't exactly the most original idea, but he does it great, with respect to the originals. His somewhat smoother versions of Stevie Wonder ballads from the 70s are not quite up there with the 60s covers though. Still, his best album since "...But Seriously..." so the success is deserved.
― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost true, true. but is it more likely to deliver the dance than the diana ross version? i guess the phil version would be more likely to have the lads dancing around too..
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link
They aren't really all that different from each other, are they? Except one has a male singer and the other one has a female one, but I guess the voice singing isn't the most important aspect when it comes to dancefloor appeal.
― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Aw...
http://www.philcollins-fr.com/Discographie/albums/12goingback.jpg
― Lostandfound, Friday, 12 November 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link