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Just as music can be found in nature, through the song of the whales, indeed there too can be Christian Heavy Metal in today's musical climate. As long as there is an audience to receive the sounds, there will can be any kind of music. Although, I imagine in would be very difficult to synthesize the two extremes of heavy metal, which is often thought of as dark and negative, and Christianity, which holds Christ as the light of humanity. Essentially, these two factors seem to balance each other out. For one to successfully implement positive religious lyrics in a song that has dark and dreary overtones sends a message to me that even through the darkness in the heavy metal music there can be light, which can be made analogous to Christ illuminating the darkness of the world for all to see, it depends on one's interpretation and experience of the music at hand. I wonder if there is mosh pitting at these types of concerts?, that would seem rather hypocritical concerning the messages the Church sends, however, judge not lest you be judged in terms of practicing religion. Apparently there is still room for the oddity of Opus Dei in today's religious climate, so why not Christian Heavy Metal in the music spectrum? One may question if the words are screamed and sound angry, will it change the innate message of the song? I do not believe so, because words, regardless of how they are spoken, can only be backed with right action. If the bands adhere to the doctrine of their religion and are true to their intention as musicians, then I believe they can be classified as such. Take for example, South Park, when Cartman attempts to form the Christian Rock Band, Faith + 1. Although his audience received his "religious" message (even though it was satirized by trey and matt, haha "I want to get down on my knees and please you Jesus") and he won his myrrh record (which he then rejected and lost his followers), his intention was not to create music for its own sake and to praise God, but to receive monetary gain. Any band in any genre, not just Christian Heavy Metal, that follows Cartman's path is not staying true to the purpose of music, and I believe there is no place for bands like that in today's musical climate; however, we may never know what one's intention is throughout the duration of their career. Because I am not a Christian Metal Head, it is hard for me to define what Christian Metal means to one who likes it so much to consider themselves a head. I can assume that in general terms it is just like any other experience one has between ones self and ones religion, using music to connect one to the other in the form of praise, which in this case may seem a little angrier. There must be some sort of successful connection made between the audience and God using Heavy Metal as the mediator because people to continue their indulgence in Christian Heavy Metal. Music that allows a religious experience will be different for many different kinds of people depending on their background. You can hear the indigenous differences between religious music and even the instruments used of those who practice Judaism and those who practice Christianity. Traditional Christian Music is rooted in western classical and opera sounding music. Today's generation has a tendency to rebell against these traditions, which probably insighted the heavy death metal genre to begin with. For one to inversely use this form of rebellion to bring people, especially those of youth, back to Christianity is fascinating, and indeed must to fit some where in today's spectrum or musical climate.

As Michael Franti Would Say

Everyone Deserves Music
Sweet Music
Even the quite ones in our family
They deserve music

Not just the rich, but the everyday folk
Not just the men, but the women folk
Not just the straight, but they gay and freaky people too
Not just the white folk, but the black, grey, yellow, and blue

Even the sad ones, the lonely ones, they happy ones ain’t the only ones
Everyone deserves music.

Indeed this too includes the Christian Metal Heads.

where did you plagarize that from?

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username babamert
age 23
loc: TURKEY
gender male
first name baba

username babamert
age 23
loc: TURKEY
gender male
first name baba

mertpao [at] gmail .com

babamert has been sent two (2) invites.

a) requested username - sirdropsalot8293
b) first name - Dan
c) age - 20
d) gender - male
e) geographic location - London, UK

1 invite needed please!

email: s0569✧✧✧@s✧✧.e✧.a✧.u✧

thank you lovely people.

dunno why my email went weird like that, will try again just in case...

s0569067 (at) sms.ed.ac.uk

The e-mail is showing up just fine on our end. Can you try and re-send the Rocism Essay, Cat Power pic, and Sufjan v Deerhoof Essay? They seem to have been dropped in transmission.

Thanks!

Hi Mr. Oink Administrator,

I never heard back from you in regards to my Oink application. I'm assuming this is because I was rejected for some reason, but I would appreciate if you'd like me know for sure.

Thank you and kind regards,

anoushka

Hey guys! I am confused when you say the Rockissm Essay, Cat Power pic, and Sufjan V Deerhoof Essay is missing. So I'm going to repost my application

a) igigfufu
b) Michael
c) 23
d) Male
e) California

1) Pillows – Penalty Life; Kooks – Inside In/Inside Out; Goldfinger – Stomping Ground

2) Rockism is the ideology that some popular music is more authentic than others. Originating from the British press in the early 1980s; Rockism is suspicious of the use of non traditional instrumental equipment. This includes both physical and spiritual properties used in the creation of music. Synthesizers and “Easy-Make” tools are frowned upon. The same applies to to “manufactured pop music.” Rocksim proponents argue that such music is created on assembly lines by hired record producers; thus creating soulless and inferior music. Subsequently, all commercialized music is regarded as impure. As stated earlier, this applies to all music, not just rock itself. One may be “Rockist,” yet express a genuine passion for R&B in a “rockist” style. A noted subtext of Rockism states that, at one point in time, “They got it right.” Rockists cite a period of time (generally accepted as the 1960sor 1970s) in which music was in its purest form; namely rock. Although there are many ways to define Rockism, meaning there is no absolute interpretation of it, the overall premise is rock is the norm of popular music.

3) http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/cat_power_chanel.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens. Although Deerhoof is interesting as well, I find the music difficult to get in touch with. Sufjan Stevens speaks with heart and soul; this is portrayed through both his usage of sound and lyrics. In addition to this, he ventures into the use of various sounds and playing styles with his music. Although the same is true (if not to a greater extent) for Deerhoof; the music feels more like a collage or cut and paste operation of various sounds. Whereas these new and unique sounds may please the ears of some, I find it troublesome. The music is all over the place, and therefore, retains a minimal amount of passion. Although I prefer Sufjan Stevens; both artists are unique and fantastic in their own way. In the end, however, the eye-opening lyrics of Sufjan Stevens topple the whimsical tunes of Deerhoof.

5) 1 invite please

my email is

whattheho✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Much Thanks!

anoushka-

I am showing your account as approved and active.

Welcome!

-Oink

Dear oink administrator, it appears that this forum is still active. If so, I might as well stake my claim.

a) marclay
b) Eliot
c) 24
d) male
e) austin, tx


1) Frank Zappa - Thing-Fish (Pre-release version)
The Ramones - Rocket to Russia (reissue)
The Rolling Stones - The Rolling Stones No. 2

2) What is rockism?

What is rockism? Not an answer, but a response: Rockism is a form of ludicrous snobbery in the form of scene trendsetting based on a code of nonsense that nonetheless explains the deteriorization of Aerosmith from Mama Kin to whatever they are now. Musicians play rock quartet/quintet instruments (guitar(s), bass, drums, keys(?)), feign that genius-ness of Bob Dylan with the Band live 1966 period, the fans must face the CBGB's toilets smell to get their fix. More simply, Rockism is a snobbery that "Rock" music is the best kind of music. Radio pop, with its pseudo-individuation, is devalued not for its lack of complexity but for its lack of simplicity. Paradoxically, middle aged "indie band" men are therefore returning to their pop-rock simplicity detroit rock city fonzie roots and singing about high school--the authentic rockist perspective must be young, and preferably ignorant of the "real world." The pseduo-indiviudal has grown up but must grow to be an eternal child, in other words. I find this all very embarrasing.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.worlds-fair.net/mail/images/IMG_1379catpower.JPG

with Devendra.

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

I have tried to live Sufjan, but the self-conscious singer-songwriter thing is played out for me at the moment. The giant wings he has been attaching to himself in recent concerts was really the last straw. However, I do enjoy his Christmas club music. Deerhoof, by contrast, is consistently engaging and GENUINELY fun even if they are pretentious as well. That little Japanese chick can really belt it out. The tunes get stuck in my head, so I sing out like her in public sometimes. Just that bit of life experience has added greatly to my self-esteem. And they are getting better, too.

5) How many invites do you require?

1

Confirmed Oink invites (or rejections) will be posted here in 1-3 working days. Check back here at that time, requests to expedite the approval process will result in immediate rejection.

username babamert
age 23
loc: TURKEY
gender male
first name baba

mertpao [at] gmail .com

wait u

username babamert
age 23
loc: TURKEY
gender male
first name baba

mertpao [at] gmail .com

Hi Mr. Oink Admin,

I'm approved? Yippppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :))) Thank you so much, you made my day! Unfortunately I never did receive the Oink invite in my email, so I don't know how my account could possibly be showing as active?

Thanks again, I'm so excited to have the opportunity to be a part of Oink!

~anoushka

anoushka check your junk email

wait u

Hello Mr Oink admin!
Thought it best to check with you about any progress. Have patiently waited and checked back regularly to see if there was an invite coming my way? Didnt want to be pushy or annoying!
Thank you for your time!

Oink Administrator, if you have any invites left, I'd love to receive one. Thanks!

a) jordanobob
b) jordan
c) 26
d) male
e) flintstone, ga


1) Cold War Kids - Robbers & Cowards
Fields - Everything Last Winter
The Little Ones - Sing Song EP

2) What is rockism?

What is rockism? People have their own opinions about music. To try and describe one's favorite music as superior to others is what is commonly meant by rockism. The strict-constructionist definition of rockism is an exaltation of the mythology of '60s and early '70s rock - teenage boys with guitars working out their feelings on paper in the afternoon and shouting them through microphones at night. (The loose-constructionist definition calls rockism an exaltation of any form of music on pseudo-objective grounds.) Rockism usually includes a derisive sneer toward some other form of music, usually whatever is currently popular on the charts.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.hi.is/~peturv/catpower.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Sufjan Stevens is a failed writer, an expert folder (he can wrestle a fitted sheet into a perfect square), and an admirer of Brahms symphonies. Sufjan admits to having borrowed the concept of Friend Rock from his good friend Sonny Aronson, who admits to having stolen it from his friend Cheryl Botchick (former editor of CMJ New Music Report), who may or may not have gleaned the term from the gossipy pages of NME Magazine, the editors of which often claim to have coined every fleeting and faddish term in the music industry since the 1970s, although we know that just is not true.

Deerhoof on the other hand, is refreshing! And there’s little attention to formal, Berkeley-style musicianship. But their persistent reinvention of their sound, even within individual songs, is reminiscent of the kind of jittery musical unrest that recalls Miles Davis and John Coletrane, and the less smoothly orchestrated output of early King Crimson.


5) How many invites do you require?

1

Didnt want to be pushy or annoying!

yeah, you're not annoying at all

Jordanobob/Indiemusicianman, killer application there. A few admins here are still on the fence about you though, you could improve your chances greatly by posting a link to an mp3 or streaming sample of music you've created.

Oink Admin--

I am sorry to confuse you with my response to your question, but I did not plagerize.... I was sitting and writing what I thought about your question. It is possible for an individual to have an original idea.... obviously if you cant a place where I "got it from" than maybe it was actually produced by me..... Anyways, I guess I will keep an eye out for weather or not I got an invite. I hope you have a lovely day,

Kristen

Kristen-

Well, it was such a well-written essay on Christian Heavy Metal that I automatically assumed it was lifted from a Jess Harvell or Ned Raggett essay somewhere on the web.

Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on Islamic Hip Hop?

Eagerly awaiting your well-written opinion,

-Oink Addy

Kristen - post pix plz

the 3 p's of OiNK

Oink Administrator,

Thanks for the response. I’m really interested in getting an Oink invite! I’m sorry but I haven’t created any torrents (not quite there yet). I am however an excellent seeder. I’m a member of Libble.com and I have a 1:1 ratio with over 4.5gb down\up. I may not be able to create new torrents, but I sure can help others get them. I’m not sure if that means anything to you or not?

Thanks,

:) Indiemusicman, cool namez :)

Indiemusicianman,

You are misunderstanding me. I'm not interested in seeding or ratios (you could do better than 1:1), I'm interesting in hearing the music that you create. What instrument do you play? Where is that sample?

am0n--

What picture would you like me to post. I already posted one of Cat Power in my application from a while ago.

Is it necessary for me to post another picture for an invite...?

Oink Admin--

I am contemplating the nature of your question concerning Islamic Hip Hop, and I will post my response shortly.

Kristen

Looking foreword to it!!!!

Hey guys, I was just wondering, but, I haven't heard a response on whether my application was approved or denied. I would love to find if I was or wasn't, and if not, why?

Much thanks, igigfufu

igigfufu-

We did not receive your application.

Cheers!

-Oinkz

am0n--

What picture would you like me to post. I already posted one of Cat Power in my application from a while ago.

ur pix. amirite Oink Admin

u rite, am0n.

a)AscensionCub
b)Ben
c)18
d)male
e)Grand Blanc,Michigan

1)- All Is Well Ends Well
- Southern Weather
- They're Only Chasing Safety

2) Rockism is a term that came about in the early 80's. Kind of became and "ideology" that critiqued popular music. There isn't one true definition of of it. People have judged it because of the meaning behind the term and have considered it "musical racism" All it was , was an opinion. Some people in my own thoughts took it to far when they complained about it.

3)www.flattire.org/archives/.../
austin_city_lim.html

4) My apologies, but the only thing I know is that Sufjun Stevens is from Michigan. I have no idea who Deerhoof is at all. Again I am sorry that I have not complied completely with this question.

5) I only require 1 invite. Much would be appreciated. If this helps my ratio is 1.78 on Demonoid. And I apologize for posting another site, but I have just heard you guys are the best of best.

We are the best of the best.

Therefore, there is no room for people who can not follow instructions.

Your application has been rejected.

You may re-apply in 30 days.

Thank You for your understanding.

-Oink A

a)Quantum Thrust
b)Charlene
c)27
d)Female
e)Columbus,Ohio

1) All We Know Is Falling
All Is Well Ends Well
When Broken Is Easily Fixed

2) Rockism has several different ideals. One being the idea of criticizing music. Also the idea of that music should be natural. Thus being compared to Stuckism which is where artists that don't paint aren't considered artists. Rockism has been attacked by people saying it's "musical racism" and "straight white male chauvinism." People who are a believer in Rockism like it when they have most freedom in the music process. Thus allowing them to be themselves.

3) jonathan.greer.users.btopenworld.com

4) Sufjun Stevens hands down. Deerhoof irritated me a long time ago with vocals. Stevens vocals are grand. The guy is a spectacular indie artist. I have found his music to be quite original. I love the fact that he is capable of playing a wide variety of instruments. Stevens as I have listened to him has catchy lyrics and sound. I look forward to seeing what he has in store over the years.

5) 1 invite is requested and thank you for your consideration.

Here is my application again.

a) igigfufu
b) Michael
c) 23
d) Male
e) California

1) Pillows – Penalty Life; Kooks – Inside In/Inside Out; Goldfinger – Stomping Ground

2) Rockism is the ideology that some popular music is more authentic than others. Originating from the British press in the early 1980s; Rockism is suspicious of the use of non traditional instrumental equipment. This includes both physical and spiritual properties used in the creation of music. Synthesizers and “Easy-Make” tools are frowned upon. The same applies to to “manufactured pop music.” Rocksim proponents argue that such music is created on assembly lines by hired record producers; thus creating soulless and inferior music. Subsequently, all commercialized music is regarded as impure. As stated earlier, this applies to all music, not just rock itself. One may be “Rockist,” yet express a genuine passion for R&B in a “rockist” style. A noted subtext of Rockism states that, at one point in time, “They got it right.” Rockists cite a period of time (generally accepted as the 1960sor 1970s) in which music was in its purest form; namely rock. Although there are many ways to define Rockism, meaning there is no absolute interpretation of it, the overall premise is rock is the norm of popular music.

3) http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/cat_power_chanel.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens. Although Deerhoof is interesting as well, I find the music difficult to get in touch with. Sufjan Stevens speaks with heart and soul; this is portrayed through both his usage of sound and lyrics. In addition to this, he ventures into the use of various sounds and playing styles with his music. Although the same is true (if not to a greater extent) for Deerhoof; the music feels more like a collage or cut and paste operation of various sounds. Whereas these new and unique sounds may please the ears of some, I find it troublesome. The music is all over the place, and therefore, retains a minimal amount of passion. Although I prefer Sufjan Stevens; both artists are unique and fantastic in their own way. In the end, however, the eye-opening lyrics of Sufjan Stevens topple the whimsical tunes of Deerhoof.

5) 1 invite please

my email is

whattheho✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Much Thanks!

I also sent it to you just incase!

Much Thanks!