Pulp: C.L.A.S.S.I.C.O.R.D.U.D?

Different Class is still a good album. 'I Spy' is the best song on it.

They are of course all great, from "His'n'Hers" onwards, whereas what I've heard of their earlier material is not all that great (well, apart from "Razzmatazz", a fantastic single that for some reason was never included on "His'n'Hers")

It would appear that "Underwear," which has yet to be mentioned here, is seen as one of their more forgettable tracks or something. It's one of my favorite 90's tracks, and possibly my favorite Pulp song. It is fucking perfect and beautiful, and anyone who thinks differently can eat dicks.

I think...

In fact, I'm considering buying some of his albums proper (namely, the first two or three). Mad Mad Moonlight, Judy Teen, Make Me Smile, Psychomodo, Tumbling Down...all quite, quite brilliant slices of pop exuberance.

'Underwear' is the best song on Different Class outside the first 4. Happy now? :-D

xxxpost: that link doesn't work for me. I really want to hear it!

Spanish new romantic disco act Meccano:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=A7F65B614021A808

in his greatest kitchen sink operettes the lyrics are witty, esoteric, original and utterly effortless. "common people" on the other hand is IMO hackneyed, patronising, tryhard, and contrived. yes, i understand it is the protagonist in the story who is mainly the source of the patronising take on the working classes, yet this is exaggerated (and repeated endlessly) becoming increasingly divorced from the ultra-realistic stylings of jarv's best work. it is caricature to an extent where it ceases to be believable; and as a working class boy who went to a posh university i know these people exist, it's just a bit more subtle, insidious, and well...real.

to me CP always smelt of jarv knowingly creating something which would cause a bit of a rumpus and become a hit. in this regard he spectacularly succeeded so fair play to him but i think he is even on record himself as saying it is not among his favourite pulp tracks. the tune is average too, even asuming he didn't rip it off (which frankly i dont care about anyway).

anyhow, thought i'd let it all pour out. i love jarv, i love pulp, but i hate common people.

ok. go on then. do your worst....

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-- My Little Ruud Book (louder...), August 29th, 2006.

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-- Obvious Ninja (papiermachealamphibia...), August 29th, 2006.

my finest hour

'Separations' is actually a really solid album! Just giving it another listen tonight, after it having done nothing for me in the past, and, this sounds really good to me now!

every time i listen to "separations" i go WOAH THIS IS ACE ... and then after three songs i kinda switch off and forget what it sounds like.

actually, the same is true of the jarvis solo album. hmm.

I'd still like to know more about this "Common People was nicked from a dodgy Spanish disco record" theory.

I coincidentally just bought "This is Hardcore" yesterday and after one listen I really like it a lot. So as of now "We Love Life" > "This is Hardcore" > "Different Class"

babies, lipgloss and this is hardcore makes pulp classic. used to like suede more, but the songwriting of jarvis cockers is miles better than gasoline kisses on concrete london skies.

I'd still like to know more about this "Common People was nicked from a dodgy Spanish disco record" theory.

-- Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 18 August 2007 16:25 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

wow me too.

i always thought it was knicked off of lost in the supermarket by the Clash.

Dud. Interesting frontman, but horrible, characterless band.

The music is just polite aural wallpaper that performs its only requisite function of not upstaging the singer.

It reminds me of John Shuttleworth, but without the daring improvisational bits.

Pulp are my favorite band right now, as of last night, when I spent hours watching live performances (including *the* Glastonbury performance of "Common People") on YouTube. Holy shit-awesome.

Well yeah, because wasps will just sting you for no reason at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BZnuBZhvr0

Precisely!

probably my favourite song of the 90s. and its a bside:

utter classic.

i even like the first mini album It. sounds like Belle & Sebastian's Tigermilk, and it came out before The Smiths had released anything. even Freaks has its good points.

check out that chord progression/build. up and up and up into epicness. sordid but beautiful. proper desperation and stuff. where the fuck are the british bands making songs like this nowadays?

Jarvis Cocker: 'Pulp could reunite for Glastonbury 2010'

http://www.nme.com/news/pulp/48056

Jarvis Cocker: 'Pulp have no plans to get back together'

http://www.nme.com/news/pulp/48079

I am putting away money just in case.

I don't care if anyone thinks they are a good live band or not. I really, really regret not finding out for myself when I was younger.

I hope they play somewhere else though.

classic, different class is a great album

damn, not that i was planning on going or anything but it still was pretty cool news.

i saw Pulp twice and it was an amazing show both times.

94 and 96 LA? With ya there.

i saw the Blur/Pulp thing in Los Angeles in what must have been 1994. I saw them again in San Francisco, when i lived there, in 1996.

I really, really wanted to go when they toured America behind Different Class but I was only 15 and I probably just wasn't able to arrange it. I wish I had at least gotten the poster from the record store. I still think about it.

Jarvis Cocker has sparked rumours of a Pulp reunion, saying he'll "think about it a little bit more".

Although Jarvis dismissed rumours Pulp would be performing at next year's Glastonbury Festival, he admitted the furore surrounding these allegations caught his imagination.

He told this week's NME: "I suppose it made me think a little bit - the fact that people did seem interested, that made me think about it a little bit more."

only interested if russell senior is involved

So how about we start rumors about The Smiths headlining and get all rabid so Moz sits up and takes notice?

Also we can all wish for a billion, zillion dollars each.

So, they're reforming?

jarvo said on aus telly a week or so ago that they weren't..

i was surprised at how vitriolic russell was about jarvis's 'pop star' era in a recent interview for a MOJO special. he left because he got sick of all the attention he was getting but reading jarvis's interviews circa the late 90s you'd never have guessed there was any animosity between them. it's true it was never the same when he left, no matter how good some of the tunes were.

http://i50.tinypic.com/2lw9i7m.jpg

lol?

Spanish new romantic disco act Meccano: http://sheckley.tripod.com/Radcliffe/pulpblackmail.mp3
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:43 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark

Holy shit, that Meccano song DOES sound a lot like "Common People"!!!!