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I was thinking about doing an article on accents in the songs of B & S and the Scottish doppelganger, huh?

― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 10:20 (twenty years ago) link

It is a good idea.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link

T.Horn + Jock Fops = Skinny Tie New Wave!!

Maybe I'll *start* to get interested now.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:25 (twenty years ago) link

I was scouring the old B&S threads for research this morning and came across an epic throwdown between N., PF, Tim H, JtN & Starry vs the good Dr. C. Entertaining stuff. I'll revive the thread when I have something and if I have something interesting to say.

― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:53 (twenty years ago) link

on first listen to the album this track is one of the best things on it. the album sounded ok, but it didn't really do much for me. on the other hand, i don't think i've cared about a b+s song since if yr feeling sinister, so i'm probably not the person to ask.

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:55 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe best not to revive it Cozen

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:56 (twenty years ago) link

It was like something out of WWF Extreme.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:57 (twenty years ago) link

OK. It wasn't too bad actually. Not nasty but argued. I printed it out and read it in the library toilets.

I think this may be the the best B&S song. Memory is an elusive wriggly character.

― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:59 (twenty years ago) link

I like 'Step Into My Office, Baby', but I don't think my opinion on such matters should be trusted.

― Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:03 (twenty years ago) link

I think Toby is right. Didn't think much of 'Stay Loose' on first listen, but compared to the rest of the album - which makes me think of some happyclappy Godspell meets ELO meets Free Design neatfreak-out - it seems pretty great.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:05 (twenty years ago) link

Cripes that doesn't sound good at all.

― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:08 (twenty years ago) link

Cripes, that sounds great!!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

Stay Loose has been one of the best B&S songs ever. It's tremendous, and also surprising with those 1979/80 sound - the Steve Nieve organ, and the vocals very similar to the young Chris Difford from Squeeze. I'm proud that I heard the same similarities as you all did.
The whole LP should be listened a few times more, but still seems to be a pleasant surprise after Storytelling.

― Bence Inkei, Sunday, 14 September 2003 17:07 (twenty years ago) link

I'm really VERY fond of "Stay Loose" too. Love the treatment on Stuart's voice...

― Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 14 September 2003 19:41 (twenty years ago) link

is "Stay Loose" the one that people say sounds like The Police? I'm not hostile to The Police, but I wouldn't encourage bands to sound like them.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 14 September 2003 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

the only record i know by this band is that one everyone was saying is their worst. i like it.

― duane, Sunday, 14 September 2003 21:36 (twenty years ago) link

This confuses me... why, in a place where virtually every band evah can get ILM hate, do what appears like 100% of you like, or at least own product by, this limp 57th-rate Delgados excuse for a band? Why why why? They - are - so - fucking - weak!

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 14 September 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

i like to crochet too.

― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 14 September 2003 21:47 (twenty years ago) link

The new Lp of B&S is wonderful, really 70s...

― C11 (C11), Sunday, 14 September 2003 21:49 (twenty years ago) link

eat a dick or two, the lex.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 14 September 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link

what appears like 100% of you like

As long as Dan and I are around, you need never worry about this percentage coming true.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:12 (twenty years ago) link

the delgados, they sound real good too but i only ever heard 1 song by them

― duane, Sunday, 14 September 2003 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

the delgados are great and don't sound like belle & sebastian.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 14 September 2003 23:43 (twenty years ago) link

i can only boggle at what a 57th rate version of a fifth rate band like the delgados would be like

― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 September 2003 23:43 (twenty years ago) link

(actually that's unfair, i don't dislike the delgados, but for crimony's sake)

― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 September 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

the new B&S album is their best since Sinister, that's for sure. Yes Stay Loose is one of their best and catchiest songs ever, the guitar solo kills me and it repeats 3 times! Not enough for me, the song could be eight minutes and I'd still want more. The non-Stuart songs on this are so strong (but I like how he comes in at the very end of Stay Loose).

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Monday, 15 September 2003 06:57 (twenty years ago) link

I still love tigermilk, especially that one that sounds like Procession by New Order

you mean Electronic Renaissance. There's a lot of hate for this song, but I happen to love it.

I'm worried abt B&S sounding like the Police.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 15 September 2003 08:15 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I have to say I really used to despise B&S and liked maybe a song or two, but this new album is really amazing; very special.

I would actually urge haters to give this one a spin!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 22:49 (twenty years ago) link

HMMMMM

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 October 2003 03:08 (twenty years ago) link

I have not heard the new B&S record. Is it out yet?

I did hear the Nipper playing some of it on his computer. But that was not really enough to make any kind of judgement, or any kinde of judgment.

Momus's post is very neat. His STARSKY & HUTCH idea is one of the most comic things I have seen him write. It is encouraging to see how much comic writing one can produce after being visually impaired. But my information on these matters, like my view of this screen, is hazy.

When Momus says that fans will like the way the record goes back to the 60s he is perhaps only half-right. There is, I believe, a long history of B&S fans complaining about B&S starting to sound like a 60s band. I do not think that early perceptions of B&S (1995-1999) had very much to do with the 1960s.

For once, it would not be very hard to check the accuracy or otherwise of this statement.

I am surprised that CRISIS did not refer to the old 80s comic about the Third World, as it was then not called.

I like Cozen's research, but don't know what he means about doppelgangers.

It is funny (where) the Vicar says that he is not hostile to the Police.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 2 October 2003 08:27 (twenty years ago) link

the new one sounds like pizzicato five crossed with free design. "roy walker" could be partridge family. considerably funkier than they've been in the past. best record in a long time.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 2 October 2003 16:44 (twenty years ago) link

The weird thing about the new one is that, "Stay Loose" aside, it appears to have had very little Nunn influence on it at all.

Album of the year, anyway.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 October 2003 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

trevor nunn?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 2 October 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

I'm nunnconvinced.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 2 October 2003 18:45 (twenty years ago) link

Trevor Horn. It's been a long day.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 October 2003 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know, they certainly seem more awake than usual, I'd chalk that up to Horn

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link

They should totally bring in Trevor Nunn to produce the next album.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:10 (twenty years ago) link

or Terry Nunn!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

Trevor Brooking could do a job, as long as it was understood that it was strictly a temporary arrangement for an interim period.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:42 (twenty years ago) link

I have not heard the new B&S record. Is it out yet?

Yup, on XFM.co.uk ("under Multimedia").

Truth, I started saying, "Oh God, more BS from B&S", but this new album is almost....happy-sounding.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

I would actually urge haters to give this one a spin!

so, have B&S blanded out their sound to appeal to cockfarmers who don't like B&S? time will tell.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 9 October 2003 10:54 (twenty years ago) link

The weird thing about the new one is that, "Stay Loose" aside, it appears to have had very little [Horn] influence on it at all.

And the weird thing about Dom's post is this comment from the band:

"The biggest studio creation and, ironically, one which Trevor was hardly involved in. This was the only song which wasn't fully written before we went into the studio. This was intentional, as we wanted a song Trevor could sing his teeth into. But Trevor didn't actually like the song. He did try a few things, but in the end, it was the band that saw it through. Tony Doogan mixed the song."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:39 (twenty years ago) link

Whoops -- that's about "Stay Loose," if you hadn't already figured it out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:40 (twenty years ago) link

I've given it two goes now and I still don't like it much. Maybe one more try for old times' sake.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:52 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.hollowearth.org/2003_07_06_oldcrap.html

― David. (Cozen), Thursday, 9 October 2003 16:45 (twenty years ago) link

so, have B&S blanded out their sound to appeal to cockfarmers who don't like B&S? time will tell.

I don't think it's "blanded out" at all; except for those who think that any change is 'blanded' or 'sold-out' or whatever. That said, there is something very different about it (the singing maybe?) that makes me want to give up cockfarming altogether.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 9 October 2003 17:14 (twenty years ago) link

about half of the album is sung by stevie and not stuart, but his voice sounds really good here and his songs are good, unlike fold your hands.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 9 October 2003 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

I heard "Asleep on a Sunbeam" today. It's the first B&S song I've ever heard. I like it.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 10 October 2003 00:58 (twenty years ago) link

I got really sad and listened to nothing but Belle & Sebastian for like three or four days. I like the new album a lot. I feel a lot better now.

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 10 October 2003 01:10 (twenty years ago) link

Stuarts voice on it sounds as if he's straining to sound like something else but I can't work out what. There are no bollocks in the record at all. Stay loose is some kind of sub-bowie joke and Lord Anthony just about the best thing on it, except for the one either before or after it which I kind of liked. On the whole though I am mssively disappointed with it. This makes me sadder than I thought it would.

― chris (chris), Friday, 10 October 2003 11:21 (twenty years ago) link

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