Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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the closest to gay wd be like ryker wd fall in love with some woman who turns out to be a shapeshifter

Ryker in fact falls in love with a person from a gender-neutral species.

worf probably listened to like tribal klingon music

He actually listens to Klingon opera.

Jimmy Carter, History's Greatest Monster (Leee), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha... that's because he's a black signifier, and black people can like white snob culture too!

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Ryker in fact falls in love with a person from a gender-neutral species.


Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

but BEST EPISODE EVER would have included the extended gory and grisly deaths of Ryker and Troi

H (Heruy), Thursday, 5 August 2004 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to play Star Fleet Battles!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 6 August 2004 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Ronan & Ethan made my night.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 August 2004 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

that is seriously the greatest ilx post ever and i feel like a nerd for understanding EVERY FUCKING WORD OF IT.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 6 August 2004 05:24 (fifteen years ago) link

"make it saab" OTM

JD, yeah, me too... fuck.

derrick (derrick), Friday, 6 August 2004 06:28 (fifteen years ago) link

every morning when i wake up i thank god i'm no longer 13.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 6 August 2004 06:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm scared by how much of that conversation I understood as well. But even more scared by the special little Star Trek voice in the back of my head that goes 'actually, it didn't happen like that. In fact what happened was...'

God, I am such a nerd.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 6 August 2004 06:59 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Call me a geek, but Enterprise had been cancelled. Not that I've seen more than about three episodes of it.

Looks like the combined effect of 'The Matrix' and reality TV has finally killed off Star Trek, which was something I used to think was one of those untouchable, uncancellable TV franchises.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link

None of you are real geeks. Listen: I.. played.. Star Fleet Battles.

This means that I not only believe in an alternate timeline for the original series, but that I also played a tactical simulator based on that timeline using counters and hexagons...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Ronan and Ethan for president!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Still one of the greatest ILX posts ever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Reading through this thread: I love the way Mark S uses the phrase "conceptual device in print" to describe ... a character in slashfic stories.

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 3 February 2005 12:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I was thinking the same thing, caitlin!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 February 2005 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

>Trying to advance the human race through space diplomacy... until they kill all the people [aliens] at the end of the episode/movie.<

But that's The American Way! Even the earliest books on the first series point out the show is about America in the '60s, esp foreign policy. Kirk = LBJ + JFK's libido...

I was a Trekkie on the original's reruns between ages 10 and 14, including NY conventions (circa '76) where the cast attended, including Shatner and Nimoy. Saw maybe 3 episodes of TNG, did zip for me.

Wrath of Khan's Burger King uniforms: awsum!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 February 2005 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I too am so ashamed that I know exactly what they are talking about. And I also like how Ronan digresses to discuss Colm Meaney beyond Star Trek. My brother and I used to buy ST: TNG magazine at Jewel all the time, and discuss the stats of our favorite characters. That's embarrassing.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I played Star Fleet Battles too! WOO! tedious stuff, eh?

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 3 February 2005 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Ronan and Ethan should def. have some sort of Siskel and Ebert type show.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 3 February 2005 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, co-op tv blog please.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 February 2005 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

That would be beautiful. Kudos for a fine Nicole idea!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 February 2005 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Alan, the PC game Star Fleet Command is based entirely on Star Fleet Battles. It's no longer tedious!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 February 2005 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks like the combined effect of 'The Matrix' and reality TV has finally killed off Star Trek, which was something I used to think was one of those untouchable, uncancellable TV franchises.

The biggest problem was that Enterprise was never really Star Trek. Yeah, they reference some of the same things, but to do the prequel they really had to make it more like cowboys in space, which doesn't really touch what I found most attractive about Star Trek. I think they did it to themselves, really, and unfortunately once they came up with the idea that it was a "prequel", there's only so far they could go towards making it more like the other Star Treks we knew and loved, without confusing the timeline, so to speak.

I hope they come up with another Trek series along the lines of Deep Space Nine. Or maybe they could do it as a sitcom: the kinda-dumb Data prototype (from the end of the last movie) stumbles through the future! Laughs ensue!

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I think it could have been good, but they should have made it like it was filmed in the 1950s.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

this hanle y post is so great, it needs to be re-posted!

Counsellor Trios ass and tits were ok, but that nose ruined all. Still I bet Riker would often chuckle with Warf about how if she had a abg over her head he'd do her, and then Warf would probaby say "Yeah, and her fore head isnt bumpy enough". There was an episode when the crew was all morphin ginto prehistoric froms of themselves and Warf came on to Trio by saying "GET OUT OF THAT BATH! " and biting her. Not very romantic, those Vulcans.
-- Mike Hanley (pennyson...), July 24th, 2001.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link

"SIMONTRIFE: we havent even touched on THE HOLODECK
SIMONTRIFE: ryker was always like reenacting the civil war on it
Ronan909: redneck
SIMONTRIFE: and picard did that hilarious film noir detective thing!! what a goober
SIMONTRIFE: honestly, is he like ten??
Ronan909: AKA *******
SIMONTRIFE: hahahaha
SIMONTRIFE: thirty-eight year old virgin
SIMONTRIFE: he was put in so fans could have a relateable character
SIMONTRIFE: 'number one, get me number thirty-eight year old virgin'"

so classic

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Thread is classic. Enterprise was fucking reactionary:

This article summed up a lot of my feelings pretty early on:

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 4 February 2005 03:40 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
holy crap this thread

jean luc picard motherfucker (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 February 2006 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link

trife otm

mike h. (mike h.), Sunday, 19 February 2006 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link


Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 February 2006 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...
"q theres a line on jay z's the blueprint, it reads simply 'i will not lose ever FUCKER'"

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

the best show

-+-+-++++, Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...
bbc 2 currently showing TOS series 1 and TNG Series 1 on saturday afternoons, some of which i've only seen once, 10 or 15 years ago ("Bonk, Bonk On The Head)". how did they ever think the first episode of TNG was in any way a good episode to show first? and the bridge just looks so empty, especially when looking towards the view screen.


Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Friday, 4 August 2006 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I love being reminded of that Ronan/Ethan exchange.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 August 2006 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I was thinking about it yesterday while watching the early episode with Worf's babymama (complete with STERN KLINGON PANTSUIT).

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 August 2006 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Star Trek's ok, I can wtch it happily enough, but there's lots of vastly superior SF out there, mostly in written form. I like the characters and slightly psychadelic feel in the sixties series.

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Friday, 4 August 2006 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link

the original is one of the greatest television shows of all time and now it has been diluted to a bad punchline by greedy cash-ins. fuck paramount.

this = most otm thing ever.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 6 August 2006 06:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i did enjoy most of the spinoffs but Enterprise was a bridge (ha ha) too far.

there was a time when 3 different series were being shown at 6pm on bbc2 every week, tue, wed and thu. hard to imagine now.

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Monday, 7 August 2006 08:20 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Original series premiered 40 years ago today. Live long enough and get rich!

I wonder what Sulu and Chekov are singing in that pic.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

live music by a Klingon band

Though I admit the language would be good for black metal.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

its called star track get 1 brian morans

and PappaWheelie, author of Have You Ever Been Poxy Fuled? (PappaWheelie 2), Sunday, 10 September 2006 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Have we talked about this yet?

"Hollywood, Calif. -- STAR TREK is getting a 21st century makeover. CBS Paramount Domestic Television is releasing digitally remastered episodes of the iconic 1960s sci-fi series, with all new special effects and music, to celebrate the groundbreaking series' 40th anniversary, it was announced today by John Nogawski, president of CBS Paramount Domestic Television.

The new episodes also mark the first time in 16 years that the original STAR TREK series can be seen in broadcast syndication. The episodes will begin airing on the more than 200 stations that own the rights to the weekend broadcast syndication window starting Sept. 16 (check local listings for station and dates). All 79 episodes of the original STAR TREK series will eventually be remastered, with the first batch of episodes chosen from a list of STAR TREK fans' favorite shows.

STAR TREK redefined science-fiction and constantly pushed the envelope with concepts that were ahead of their time," Nogawski said. "By giving the series a digital upgrade using the best technology available today, it will continue to be a leader in cutting-edge television programming as we introduce the series to a new generation of viewers."

The most noticeable change will be redoing many of the special effects, created with 1960s technology, with 21st century computer-generated imagery (CGI). That includes:

• Space ship exteriors -- The space ship Enterprise, as well as other Starships, will be replaced with state of the art CGI-created ships. The new computer-generated Enterprise is based on the exact measurements of the original model, which now rests in the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C.

• Show opening -- The Enterprise and planets seen in the main title sequence will be redone, giving them depth and dimension for the first time.

• Galaxy shots -- All the graphics of the galaxy, so frequently seen through the window on the Enterprise's bridge, will be redone.

• Exteriors -- The battle scenes, planets and ships from other cultures (notably the Romulan Bird of Prey and Klingon Battle Cruisers) will be updated.

• Background scenes -- Some of the iconic, yet flat, matte paintings used as backdrops for the strange, new worlds explored by the Enterprise crew will get a CGI face-lift, adding atmosphere and lighting.

The refurbished episodes also feature higher quality sound for the famous opening theme. The original score by Emmy Award-winning composer Alexander Courage has been re-recorded in state-of-the-art digital stereo audio with an orchestra and a female singer belting out the famous vocals. A digitally remastered version of William Shatner's classic original recording of the 38-word "Space, the final frontier…" monologue continues to open each episode.

The remastered episodes have been converted from the original film into a High-Definition format, which gives viewers a clearer, crisper, more vibrant picture than before, even when viewed in standard definition. Once stations upgrade and start broadcasting HD signals, the episodes will be all ready for viewers to enjoy in HD."

Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 10 September 2006 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

No Jar Jar Binks? RIPOFF.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 September 2006 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Such a horrible idea. Altering lame sets and cheesy spaceship models - how does that IMPROVE the series? 75% of the Star Trek charm is kitsch. Lose that and you've got The Next Generation plus Shatner overacting.

(though Uhura >>>>> anyone on TNG)

milo z (mlp), Sunday, 10 September 2006 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

fucking stupid idea

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 10 September 2006 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link

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