Colin Powell Resigns

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even as i type this, i am sure of the inevitable onslaught. but what the hell. i find it a bit insulting/sexist that some upthread have linked rice's crappy job performance (and the administration's continued support of her) to sex between her and bush. joking, i know. but still, there remains a grain of sexism there. i havent noticed anyone saying the same about rumsfeld and bush, and i think we can all stand in wonder at the administration's continued praise for him.

There is a grain of sexism there which (I think) is mitigated by the fact that Yanc3y points out, namely that Rice has referred to Bush as her husband. To my knowledge, Rumsfeld has not.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link

(Also, I would like to think that people realize that when I do actualy make statements like that, they based on more than "WELL HE IS A BOY AND SHE IS A GURL, DUH DUH DUH" but apparently that's hoping for too much.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah but there's kind of a weird commonplace of going from don't-like-a-woman to "she must be whoring herself into place."

I'm kinda dismayed by the appointment, mostly because Rice has pretty much said in the past that she's not particularly interested in the position, and its diplomatic side in particular. She'd clearly rather be in Rumsfeld's seat, no?

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

She'd clearly rather be in Rumsfeld's seat, no?

Was there a grain of sexism in that?

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, if Cheney's parts stop working she'll be VP. Eek. Eyes on the ball, people.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, if Cheney's parts stop working she'll be VP

Er, is this is in the Constitution?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 00:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Is SoS the one who assumes office if the VP resigns/steps down? Or is there one more body in her way?

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 00:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Here's what I found with this document via the usinfo.state.gov site:

When the office of Vice President becomes vacant for any reason, the President nominates a successor, who must be confirmed by a majority vote of both houses of Congress.

This presumably is what happened after Spiro Agnew stepped down.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 01:05 (nineteen years ago) link

In terms of direct line of succession, Bush, Cheney, Frist and the president pro temp of the Senate would have to die/be incapicatated all at once for Rice to step up. Haig thought otherwise back in 1981 when Reagan was shot and Bush was out of town, thus the "I'm in charge here" gaffe. (It would have actually been Tip O'Neill if something had gone down.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh just watch them whack in something called the Haig Amendment to change that. Sound about right for BushCo?

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0101032.html

Hastert's next. Then, um, Ted Stevens? Is that even a real person?

Krissy Duncan (kdruinscsayn), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, yes, Hastert, confused the GOP flacks in Congress there.

Hooray Ted Stevens! The man who could yet be President!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 03:51 (nineteen years ago) link

There is a grain of sexism there which (I think) is mitigated by the fact that Yanc3y points out, namely that Rice has referred to Bush as her husband. To my knowledge, Rumsfeld has not.

-- The Ghost of Dan Perry (djperr...), November 16th, 2004 5:33 PM. (Dan Perry) (later) (link)

(Also, I would like to think that people realize that when I do actualy make statements like that, they based on more than "WELL HE IS A BOY AND SHE IS A GURL, DUH DUH DUH" but apparently that's hoping for too much.)

-- The Ghost of Dan Perry (djperr...), November 16th, 2004 5:36 PM. (Dan Perry) (later) (link)

OTM 10000000000x over and that's all I'm going to contribute here.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

When tough issues arise in the Senate, Ted's motto has always been, "Do what's best for Alaska." And he has. Virtually every Senator is aware that Alaska is one-fifth the size of the entire United States, thanks to Stevens' constant reminders on the Senate floor and elsewhere.

http://stevens.senate.gov/bio.htm

Krissy Duncan (kdruinscsayn), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh wait, it's THAT guy! As referenced in an MST3K episode.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link

she is a very, very bad liar.

Yes. I was talking to a friend about this yesterday, and I said I used to want to have a little respect for Condi, but I have just gotten so tired of listening to her lie. And lie and lie and lie. She'll say the most ridiculous things, and be mildly condescending while she's saying them, like you're a little bit of an idiot for not understanding the very simple things she's telling you -- except that what she's telling you isn't simple at all, it's convoluted and self-contradictory and riddled with obscene lapses in logic and moral coherence. And she lacks either the will or the skill -- mostly likely both -- to make any of it remotely convincing. Sometimes after listening to her I have to go look out my window to make sure I'm still somewhere on Earth. (just one sun, no floating buildings, no giant robot overlords...ok) But a lot of people in this administration have that effect on me.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 06:52 (nineteen years ago) link

and let us all look forward to four more years of seeing her on the sunday shows, which none of us will watch, but from which jon stewart will play clips from.

kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 07:56 (nineteen years ago) link

First question for the Rice confirmation hearings: "So, why should we believe you this time?"

Krissy Duncan (kdruinscsayn), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought this thread wz called Colin Powell Rangers

fcussen (Burger), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link

what the hell

http://www.usea.org/secABRAHAM12.jpg

Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

(that's spencer abraham. apparently. jesus.)

Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

WILKERSON: Powell had walked into my office musing and he said words to the effect of, ‘I wonder how we’ll all feel if we put half a million troops in Iraq and march from one end of the country to the other and find nothing.’


just fine iirc

i gotta be a gazpacho man (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link


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