yeah i am kind of using it because i disagree with the notion, however 'i'm alan partridge' is kind of sneering and loathsome and i don't think people who are obsessed with it are particularly nice.
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link
nah iap is iannucci and coogan playing to the gallery. the student-wanker gallery.
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link
i disagree.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link
i think peep show fits in quite well with programs like balls of steel even the apprentince. it shares space with media figures like gordon ramsey and jeremy clarkson. it echoes the elevation of boris johnson to godhead status. self satisfaction, complacency, meaness all are celebrated with unironic irony. g2 gentrification, the mainstreaming of hipster one up manship becomes playground tactics. everyone wants to be on the side thats winning.
― acrobat, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link
hmm.
some cracking gags tho gromit.
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link
all rooted in a slightly shitty view of the world.
― acrobat, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link
at least they're not racists though.
― acrobat, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link
imo Malcolm Tucker and Ollie are more likeable than Mark and Jeremy.
Ollie isn't (especially not in part 2 of the special), Tucker certainly is. Whoever said it didn't have a laughing-out-loud vibe clearly didn't see Part 1. An hour's worth of belly-laughs, that one.
Brass Eye was alienating to a lot of people, most of whom were Mail-reading cunts.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
the weird thing abt ramsey is that his shtick -- which is as acrobat sez -- is at odds with the content and dynamic of his programmes, which are about the opposite of complacency: viz "yr cookery is only as good is its eaters say it is", hence LEARN TO DO IT PROPERLY PLZ
it's quite ur-reithian that way, fuck me
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link
"Brass Eye was alienating to a lot of people, most of whom were Mail-reading cunts"
you're a complete fucking dickhead
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
And you're the dude who saw 'media-savvy' and quoted 'tech-savvy'.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Sotcaalicious
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link
xxp ie members of my family found it too harsh, too nihilistic, too confusing, amoral etc. and they're not mail reading or the other thing. i love it, but i can see why a person brought up in a different time, or with more mainstream values might have not liked these things. i mean i hate almost everything morris did after blue jam which revealed those unpleasant tendencies used to great effect in brass eye much more starkly. i guess that makes me a mail-reading cunt.
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Just got offed, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:42
you're absolutely right. um, so?
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Srsly, tho, what's so dickheaded about my statement? Brass Eye is one of the funniest programmes in the history of television, that is unalterable fact. Therefore, who can it possibly alienate? Possibly, it alienates stuck-up prudish Daily Mail readers (the stereotype most certainly applies here), who can't abide by its content, or the manner in which it skewers their complacent, bigoted view of the world.
Aha. Explanations.
Well, my comeback above was a cheap shot, sure, but bear in mind I said 'most' not 'all'. Sure there are those that might have found it amoral or confusing. In general, though, I'd expect the majority of opprobrium to come from those ideologically opposed to Morris.
Blue Jam, I'll say it again, is the finest programme ever, radio or television.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow, two absolutes in one post! For <superlative> programme ever, read "in my opinion, the best I have seen".
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link
You're nuts.
Mark Heap is, like, 54 or something, you know?
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
finding things funny = no prob finding things funny and awarding yrself a medal for it = tw@t
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost: Yeah, he's getting on a bit, but he was absolutely perfect for his BJ roles. And he's still got it in doses; he was probably the best thing about Green Wing.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd hardly call this 'awarding myself a medal' btw. Everyone my age with an interest in comedy likes Brass Eye. Now that's scientific fact.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link
there's an awful lot thats funny about brass eye that makes no coherent "ideological" sense, and at the same time repulses if you've been brought up in a different milleu (social and media). you're very narrow in your knowledge and possibly experience.
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, by 'ideological' I mean Morris' clear objective to make more or less anything, no matter what the supposed taste, into a joke. This wanton subversion goes squarely against those who would dictate what is 'right and proper'; his freedom of expression, raucously manifested as it is, got up a lot of noses.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link
and bar
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Terry and June is one of the funniest programmes in the history of television, that is unalterable fact. Therefore, who can it possibly alienate? Possibly, it alienates stuck-up prudish The Sex readers (the stereotype most certainly applies here), who can't abide by its content, or the manner in which it skewers their complacent, bigoted view of the world.
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Dude I haven't seen Terry and June, but if I did, I probably wouldn't feel 'alienated'! I'd like to know how it skewers my view of the world. Enlighten me.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link
there's an episode in which terry scott is reading "the daily mail" before his chair breaks
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v65/28/120/36909752/n36909752_32887061_1889.jpg
"JYOOOOON!"
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link
> there's an episode in which terry scott is reading "the daily mail" before his chair breaks
isn't that the title sequence?
the only thing i remember about t&j being how topical it was, hence the cb radio episode, etc.
― koogs, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link
there's a fair bit of morris stuff that's just nasty. i know the peedo special is bestsatiresinceswift but so much of it is just bad taste lols. i think at some point there's a realization, or one i had, that as much as you try and justify it sometimes yr laughing cos it's naughty. it's a cheap thrill. but we're all popists here and "cheap thrill" is no denegration. it's just something to be aware of when you stop patting your back.
wikipedia says;
"Satirical television shows such as Have I Got News For You and They Think It's All Over are also popular on British television."
― acrobat, Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Wait a minute, Louis Jag is pulling a; "If You Don't Like Peep Show You Are Probably Not Worth Knowing" but with Brass Eye. Comedy = divisive.
― acrobat, Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:14 (sixteen years ago) link
The Nicholas Craig thing on "How to be C18th" was pretty funny for a clip show - much riffing on Biggins, Brian Blessed's "keynote performance there as Lord Shoutyface Cholesterol". Haven't seen the others. Who'd have thunk it 25 years ago that the only member of the Young Ones/Comic Strip clan to still be making reasonably good TV comedy into his 40s/50s would be Planer? To be fair, some of the others have moved into other areas, but they've all been hopeless on the telly since '93 or so.
(Lou1s J@gger is 19 or something, isn't he? I was a daft sod at that age too.)
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Ooh, automagical googproofin'.
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:24 (sixteen years ago) link
however 'i'm alan partridge' is kind of sneering and loathsome
Who is being sneered at?
― Tom D., Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:34 (sixteen years ago) link
There's a difference between not liking/being unsettled by Brass Eye, which I can fully accept, and being 'alienated' by it. I'm sure plenty of my friends don't much like Brass Eye, but I doubt any of them are completely, vocally opposed to its principles.
― Just got offed, Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link
principles?
― acrobat, Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Louis thinks everyone has many principles has he has
― Tom D., Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link
i did see the 'how to be science fiction' which was actually 'how to be 70s science fiction' as it took most of it's cues from gareth edwards. was very much a 'lol, actors were bad back then' type affair.
brass eye argumenting now in it's 5th great year.
― koogs, Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:25 (sixteen years ago) link
surely 10th?
― acrobat, Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link
principles of expression and humour xxxpost
― Just got offed, Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Only 5 of them were great.
xpost
― onimo, Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:32 (sixteen years ago) link
That many?
― Tom D., Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Brass Eye - is that what all the fuss was about? -- tarden, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (6 years ago)
BRASS EYE - 8/8/01 -- dave q, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (6 years ago)
Brass Eye / Chris Morris... -- Nick Southall, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (5 years ago)
― koogs, Thursday, 16 August 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link
The Office and Extras star/writer/director, Ricky Gervais, has signed to direct and star in This Side Of The Truth!
Gervais, 46, will play the leading role in the comedy and co-direct with Matt Robinson. This will be Gervais' directing feature debut.
This Side Of The Truth is about a contemporary world where no one has ever lied. A performer (Gervais) tells the first lie and harnesses its power for personal gain.
― DavidM, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link
according to guardian peter serafinowicz has his own series starting in september (that's this month).
― koogs, Friday, 14 September 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Trailer for The Peter Serafinowicz Show.
― DavidM, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Jimmy Carr is being lined up to front a new clip show for the BBC. He last night recorded a pilot episode of What Are You Looking At? with plans for a full series.
The show, made by Have I Got News For You producers Hat Trick, promises to take a ‘comedic look’ at the week's television
However, the show has already been criticised for being a carbon copy of Harry Hill's TV Burp, which has proved a ratings hit for ITV.
BBC director general Mark Thompson has previously been dismissive of copycat programmes, and the corporation says their show will be ‘more spiky’*.
― DavidM, Saturday, 15 September 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s236/mezxspectrum/HarryHillsmallerrordiffusion.gif
― DavidM, Saturday, 15 September 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Dogface officially not too bad.
― blueski, Friday, 21 September 2007 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Who'd have thunk it 25 years ago that the only member of the Young Ones/Comic Strip clan to still be making reasonably good TV comedy into his 40s/50s would be Planer?
"Mike" was on SAXONDALE last night.
― PJ Miller, Friday, 21 September 2007 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't remember ever having seen this episode, but it sounds fucking fantastic.
― PJ Miller, Friday, 21 September 2007 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link