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the new installer means that clean installs are allegedly not necessary with this upgrade, but if you want to do it then i would clone your pre-upgrade disk to another hard drive and use the migrate thing. if you're just bothered about itunes then just take a copy of the Music folder in your home and then drop that back in place after the upgrade.

caek, Friday, 28 August 2009 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Why am I sitting watching this installer? Box is pretty dull -- only three things they can think to highlight are Grand Central, Exchange support and "refinements". Feels like OS 9 -> 9.1.

Should have had Marble, really.

stet, Friday, 28 August 2009 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link

There are some not-awful desktop pictures included. And they've changed the font smoothing again. hum. what do i do now?

stet, Friday, 28 August 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link

move some icons on your desktop around and then choose "clean up". that's the coolest thing I've found so far

cozwn, Friday, 28 August 2009 13:23 (fourteen years ago) link

ooh nice

stet, Friday, 28 August 2009 13:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Whoot, work has just bought me a new Mac Book Pro 13 inch, which arrives next week, so I shall get snow leopard goodness later although I am tempted to go and get snow leopard anyway as the old laptop will remain filling in as the TV.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Friday, 28 August 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

my iMac is notably faster. SWEET.

Where is Stephen Gobie? (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 28 August 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

right click on desktop and right click on dock app shd give you the same style menu imo : /

cozwn, Friday, 28 August 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Am pretty sure they've started on Marble and then tried to back out. Things in various places just look a bit weird, like the close/min/max window buttons aren't properly recessed anymore, just a bit smudgy.

This totally blew up my iPhone connection btw. Fix:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1747

stet, Friday, 28 August 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

quick look is def leopard's killer app.

alt+space for a full-screen quick look in SL

your icons seem to need to be a certain size before they'll allow u to live preview too

cozwn, Friday, 28 August 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

here are the wallpapers missing in the final release of SL: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0tnlmj1tmje

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 28 August 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

overall finder and spaces performance is juuuuust improved enough to be noticeable... also gained bout 7 gigs back of free space which is cute. didn't know about alt+space, nice...

Nhex, Friday, 28 August 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I do like how when you do the Show all spaces > Expose thing, it shows the app name on all the windows now, which is definitely helpful when you have a million little windows so you don't have to mouse over them anymore to figure out what's what.

Nhex, Friday, 28 August 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

how can i install from disk image on a HD? ;)

cutty, Friday, 28 August 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

got this advice from a dodgy site, so who knows if it's right but...

if you have an external drive, USB drive, iPod:

-open disk utility
-select your USB drive
-choose restore from the tabs on top
-drag the image over the "source" field or use the "Image" button next to it to navigate to your image
-as target drag and drop your usb drive into the "target" field
-check erase target volume (not necessary but just to be sure)
-hit restore and wait
-reboot your mac with your usb drive plugged in
-hold the option key on bootup and choose your USB drive as startup device
-install as usual

caek, Friday, 28 August 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

obv. you have to wipe the external drive to do that

caek, Friday, 28 August 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

10 mins in, and everything seems to be running better than before (after an initial hiccough where my dock hiding and bluetooth keyboard weren't working at all). Logitech Control Center no longer thinks I have a mouse to configure, though. Will look at that tomorrow.

See http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/ for a useful wiki of app compatibilities.

Alba, Friday, 28 August 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Mouse fixed. Chrome fucked.

Alba, Friday, 28 August 2009 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Everything seems to be working so far, although it seemed to need to do some directory scanning to recache icons and such. Kind of snappier, so far.

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Fuck - XGestures is now broken. I need my mouse gestures!

Alba, Friday, 28 August 2009 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link

when you boot into boot camp, there are updated Boot camp drivers, and some weird options about remoting into a macbook air or something

calstars, Saturday, 29 August 2009 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Since the MBA doesn't have a disc drive, it's used to install Snow Leopard over the network onto it. What's surprising is that you can do it from Windows now instead of having to do it from a networked Mac.

Nhex, Saturday, 29 August 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link

XGestures updated and SL friendly!

Alba, Saturday, 29 August 2009 10:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I have a new 3GS.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

snow leopard has definitely made my machine faster: apps load faster, wakes up from sleep quicker, boots up and shuts down quicker too

hate how it has to quit and re-open prefs. for some of the pref panes tho

cozwn, Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Right, that's to load 32-bit prefs, apparently. It seems like a lame implementation but maybe it's the best available.

my dixie wrecked (Euler), Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Shutdown is really damn quick, yeah.

I've been switching between the 3GS and the OG iPhone for testing and the difference in speed there is nuts. OG really crawls along sometimes.

stet, Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link

hey dudes, I don't think you are actually getting 7GB back...are you?

Understanding storage drive capacity in Mac OS X v10.6 and later

In Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard, storage capacity is displayed as per product specifications (base 10). A 200 GB drive show 200 GB capacity (for example, if you select the hard drive's icon and choose Get Info from the Finder's File menu, then look at the Capacity line). This means that, for example, if you upgrade from an earlier version of Mac OS X, your drive may show more capacity than in the earlier Mac OS X version.

The storage drive in your Apple product, like all storage drives, uses some capacity for formatting, so actual storage available for applications will be less. In addition, other factors, such as pre-installed systems or other software and media, will also use part of the available storage capacity on the drive.

tony dayo (dyao), Saturday, 29 August 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

fresh installs are quite a lot smaller because it no longer installs all printer drivers (downloads them as needed, saving 2-3GB), but the base-10 thing is apparently the the main factor in 'i have 10GB more space after upgrades.

caek, Saturday, 29 August 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

who cares whether 7GB is 7GB dyao!!! 7GB is 7GB!!!!

cozwn, Sunday, 30 August 2009 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

tony dayo (dyao), Sunday, 30 August 2009 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry I ws drunk when I wrote tht I think

anyway, new quicktime > old quicktime, for the lack of chrome alone

cozwn, Monday, 31 August 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Do I still need flip4mac? It seemed to be doing some crazy looping to generate previews when I went to a directory of .wmvs.

mh, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I removed it for that reason. I use QT's editing, but never with WMVs, and when I do need to just play one I use VLC or mplayer.

caek, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a new beta out that works with Quicktime X but it's very slow

stet, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

why does os x only ship w/8 or 9 solid colour desktop backgrounds and no colour-selector wheel??

cozwn, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Does anyone know how to make the Quicktime 7 player the default over that Quicktime X hot mess?

BleepBot, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Get Info on a movie.

caek, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i installed this on the Lovely Emma B's first-gen Macbook Pro (yes, I found a copy of Leopard) and the performance increase is VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE.

i think it's mostly down to much faster loading and quitting times for Mail and Safari, but the Finder is MUCH more responsive, and Spotlight too. given the fact that the Lovely Emma B spends about 75% of her time with these applications this is very pleasant!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 11:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, Safari opens in less than a bounce. this is a three-year-old, non-64-bit computer.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link

party time: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars

caek, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 11:45 (fourteen years ago) link

the performance boost in spotlight from tiger to leopard was unholy; I ditched quicksilver

cozwn, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link

gah, this pisses me off:

"(As an aside to non-Mac users, note that the non-server version of Mac OS X has no per-user serial number and no activation scheme of any kind, and never has. "Registration" with Apple during the Mac OS X install process is entirely optional and is only used to collect demographic information. Failing to register (or entering entirely bogus registration information) has no effect on your ability to run the OS. This is considered a genuine advantage of Mac OS X, but it also means that Apple has no reliable record of who, exactly, is a "legitimate" owner of Leopard.)"

because mac store doof insisted I needed the 'family pack' version which was $49 if I wanted to install it on two machines. This is the sort of shit these doofs are supposed to let you in on!

akm, Thursday, 3 September 2009 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link

My £8 Snowy upgrade may or may not have serviced three computers already, and may or may not be lent to a friend who bought a Mac a week before the £8 cut off date too.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 07:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The Mac dude in the store who sold me my iPhone also suggested that Snowy would install absolutely fine on older versions of the OS, it just wont work with PowerPC chips.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 07:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Dear Snow Leopard:

I love how you have made my almost 3-year-old computer fast again and how you don't fuck around.

Big ups,

N

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Thursday, 3 September 2009 07:20 (fourteen years ago) link

"snowy"

caek, Thursday, 3 September 2009 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, no more PowerPC, at least not in new OS versions. I had to think about it a while when I read that PPC-based Macs haven't been released in almost four years. It really hasn't seemed like that long.

mh, Thursday, 3 September 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

New Mac, new snow leopard, lovely.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

SUPERCHUNK

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link


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