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windows, you're our only hope

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

how would you make a playlist of mp3's not containing cover art anyway? amst OTM, the fact the app. deleted his existing cover art makes it a shitty function not a stupid user.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

the way forward!

It reminds me more of chain based firewalls.

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, after stories of iTunes being "too helpful" in organizing people's music, I'd hope that we'd have thought before clicking by now. Hopefully Amateurist has taught us a valuable lesson.

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed, depending on your video card you can rotate the screen in Display preferences.

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

everything should be stateful based on user. the mac should identify known users via the built-in camera and relate their actions through a learned matrix of preferences according to facial pattern recognition.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

screw fast user switching, for a stationary desktop or a laptop that spends most of its time on the same table in the same lighting a simple comparison of chin-cheek high points geometry should be able to pick apart most members of a household as soon as they sit down. probably faster than it takes for bluetooth to do the requisite handshaking upon cold boot!

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i let my itunes (on windows) update overnight with album art and gapless shit, and this morning it is running faster than any version i have ever used ever has. this with a 370gig library. i dunno, i'm having a good time with this update, except that i can't figure out how to put MY OWN album art in. it seems like they are welding you solely to the itunes store for this shit now.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

where's the fun in clicking if you have to think first?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I can still add my own artwork in the new itunes windows version

― treefell (treefell), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

DG - aha yeah i think Cog is not really designed for you to drag like, your whole music library into. your "library" = the Finder. if you want to play a song, double-click it. or drag it into Cog. or make playlists in Cog. Etc.

Duderz, I have never understood the album art thing. IT'S NOT A CD IT'S AN MP3 FILE. I dunno it's like strapping a saddle to the top of your Ford Mustang - "it's just not the same without the smell of leather!"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i can add artwork in mac version too
xpost

― fellini-esque-lit-rockist (tehresa), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, annoyance --

Hitting Apple+I to edit multiple properties of a *MOVIE* does not work on multiple selected of movies. (There's a tab that is only visible with a single on selected)

HOW TO TAG ROBOTECHS .MP4

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

bah, can rotate on an intel mac mini but not on a mac book pro

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I think my solution is good (for those who are warped enough to need a smart playlist that complex).

Anyway, my solution give you the FULL POWER of boolean expressions instead of being limited to all ORs or all ANDs!

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

it would be fun to have the album covers, i was pretty psyched. at this point i have no idea what most of my album's covers look like. i hope they make it work (or maybe someone could step in w/a allmusic script or something).

xpost

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

ok smartyhungrypants - can you bulid me a smart playlist that will contain the songs i've listened to most over, say, the last ix months?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

(s)ix

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

1. "Last played" "is in the last" "6" "months"
2. Limit to 100 hours, selected by "Most often played"

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

itunes is like a mother in law.

― -- (688), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Or limit to "30" "gb" or whatever size yr ipod is

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

no come on - that will give me songs that i've played in the last six months that i've played the most forever.

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't really think it''s possible but jon's talk of cascading playlists and boolean made me think maybe there was something i wasn't thinking of.

i just want sweet stats bros.

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

gapless playback is making love life again!

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

itunes doesn't keep a record of play dates, just play counts, so excluding counts from before the six months isn't possible, no. you could perhaps tie something in with last.fm or a similar recorder, but it'd be hassle

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah :(

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess me and James Murphy are the only happy ones, but I love this new iTunes. It runs faster for me and I like the new GUI.

― like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't wait for the next version of Photoshop where you drag all your images into it and it creates a giant flat list of files, in Photoshop, that you can browse, and then you can create groups of images if you want, in Photoshop - oh wait i can do all that already, without having to start any program at all

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

oh right, cos in Finder i can sort by genre and play count and unplayed and all sorts of music-related metadata.

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't understand "gapless playback" on itunes, couldn't it always do this via crossfade?

for whatever reason, running it completely choked my computer overnight.

yes I am buying a mac when I have money to do so.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't want to have "genre" decided for me

neither do i want the busy-work of deciding what "genre" each song i own is

play count - not sure why this is important? i'm being honest here - if you use this, how come?

other metadata - ?

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

kyle - gapless playback is v v important for DJ mixes and albums w/seamless transitions between tracks (b-side of abbey road, dark side of moon.. uh)

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

CHECK YOUR MAIL SESSIONS

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

albums w/seamless transitions between tracks (b-side of abbey road, dark side of moon.. uh

Almost all of Zappa's catalogue...

― Danny Aioli (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

U R USING WRONG EMAIL

xpost: yeah yeah i know! somehow those two have become the canonical examples in every article ever - it has infectulated my brane

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

neither do i want the busy-work of deciding what "genre" each song i own is
I use it to make life easier - I only have "full album", "single" and "spoken word" genres, so that when scrolling on the mac or ipod I can choose to only see a list of artists with full albums there and not have to plough through all the dross that I only have one track for.

play count - not sure why this is important? i'm being honest here - if you use this, how come?
So that I can have a playlist of songs that I haven't listened to yet/have only listened to a couple of times.

other metadata - ?
Year: So I can see songs made in 1994 for best-of lists etc.
Album art.
Is Compilation: so that songs by different artists can be grouped. Composer: Good for classical music, where composer and artist are v. different. etc etc etc.

Your original photoshop thing also falls down, because Aperture is bascially what you're talking about, and as an image workflow it stamps all over using the finder for organisation and versioning of images.

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

going back to rss: is there a firefox plugin that will let me click on an rss feed and have it opened by my external reader, rather than stolen by firefox itself?

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

in other news, i'm abut 90% through the process of backing up my ipod, converting it from pc to mac, then reimporting all the mp3s. gapless playback here i come...

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Aperture is bascially what you're talking about, and as an image workflow it stamps all over using the finder for organisation and versioning of images

so does Flickr

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

NEW SHUFFLE=IPOD NIPPLE CLAMP DO U C?!

― Jimmy Mod's Champion Erotic Fantasy Team 2006 (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

going back to rss: is there a firefox plugin that will let me click on an rss feed and have it opened by my external reader, rather than stolen by firefox itself?

Have you tried the Feed Your Reader extension?

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I use LiveLines for that.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 14 September 2006 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks - i couldn't get either of those to wrok with Vienna, though. am i bein stupid? in particular, i didn't even see an option to choose a target program with livelines.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 14 September 2006 06:42 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF i ran the "get album art" "feature" and it removed ALL OF THE EXISTING ALBUM ART ON MY MAC! for instance my album-art screensaver now tells me "you have no iTunes songs with album art"!!!!

the album-art feature is a heap of fucking shit. coverflow was a standalone app that worked pretty well ... you'd think iTunes might look to see if there was a copy of coverflow here too, and whether it had any artwork it might want to copy over? but no: i'm back to manually adding stuff. stupid fucking bastards.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

also: the behaviour of the coverflow function on my old iMac is just bizarre. doesn't display album covers; instead shows thousands of copies of, er, the current iTunes window. updating as you move/click/etc. they really have made a total arse of it.

that said, the rest of iTunes 7 seems pretty cool. although i'm not 100% convinced it isn't taking a lot longer now to import CDs.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 14 September 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll stick with the albumart widget from liquidx.net. re: the browser window, yeah i was just tripping.

the whole interface is still hideous tho.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 14 September 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

as long as we're complaining how come you can't resume transfers after a disconnect on ichat wtf

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 14 September 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Meantime, my new toy has been ordered...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 September 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

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― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 14 September 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

tut. get with the programme, grandad:

http://www.ipodwannahaves.nl/images/ibuzz.jpg

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 14 September 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

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