Linn LM-1 or DMX drum machine in 777-9311 by Morris Day and the Time

this is still the best beat btw

seriously dude, you seem to spend half your life obsessing over drum machines but you can't tell the difference between a programmed hi-hat pattern and a live one?!?!?!?!

Too all those who say the Oberheim DMX wasn't used before 1984

This video may or may not prove that wrong..

http://www.truveo.com/oberheim-dmx-classic-tracks-on-electribe-sampler/id/627479783

Among his tracks recreated is

Imagination-Body Talk which came out in 1982
Blue Monday which came out in 1983

lol

More proof the Oberheim DMX was used well before 1983..

Harlem Nights Music Recreates some of the old-school hip-hop beats that used the DMX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GflqqvEZ9Ag

You will hear in this recreation...SURPRISE! Grandmaster Flash "The Message"

this thread is peculiar.

Startrekman, the drums on 777-9311 are Linn LM1, not Oberheim DMX. When Marion 360 Systems took over manufacturing for Roger Linn (after the first 36 or so were built...by hand) they added, as an option, a cymbal.

You state in the first post "i know for a fact it was an Oberheim DMX drum machine." But in the last post you say:

"I listened to 777-9311 and I am slowly beginning to realize it may and i remphasize it MAY be a Linn LM-1."

then at the end you say

"I still say 777-9311 MAY be a DMX. Remphazie MAY be a DMX."

Well, which one is it?

Since this thread began, I have purchased a LM-2, aka LinnDrum, which has many of the same sounds (for instance, a better sample rate and new kickdrum) and very similar features to the LM-1 (not all sounds are tunable).

I say this bc on the LM-2, you can not only play the pads live (which Prince often did), but also quantize different sounds within the same pattern to different rates -- including no rate at all, which might explain why this cut *sounds* live.

the hi-hats are definitely quantized to 1/32. it's a testament to prince's skill as a musician that he managed to program such a complicated pattern (and different velocity levels!) on a real time sequencer. i've not used a linn drum, but i've tried on my dr-660 (which was designed by roger linn and features basically the same sequencer as the linn drum) to replicate this pattern but cannot come close. it's only slightly easier to attempt on a step sequencer!

i mean i guess he could've slowed the bpm right down when recording but still, hard

Naive Teen Idol,

I liked the Linn Drum too but it became dated very quickly since it was cheap and became popular real fast. Prince actually used it on Erotic City in place of the usual LM1 sounds. It's not always the equipment....It's sometimes the person using it. Simply put, Prince and his engineers can make any drum machine sound good.
The Linn Drum was sampled at 35K, the LM1 at 28K. The LM1 is below the Nyquist frequency, and the result is aliasing when you tune it up or down, resulting in that sizzle or ring that you hear on the handclaps or sidestick tuned real low. In my opinion, the LM1 was waaaaay better than the Linn Drum, just because you could tune any sound to any pitch and it would sound great. I can't say the same about the Linn Drum.

Rio,

I disagree with it being skill. All Linn machines have a repeat button...you set the quantize rate and it repeats at that rate. Harder with an LM1 than with my Linn 9000, but still do able.

With the 2nd snare hit of each measure, I believe he turned quantize off to achieve that off beat pattern. Actually sounds more like a mistake, but still very creative.

So i was looking on you tube how the hell he did that beat and found out something interesting with the linn lm-1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyFCy0DffZc

Yup -- LM-1 applies an envelope to a continuously running sample that varies as it plays. That means you get a different snapshot of the sample every time you trigger it. My LM-2 doesn't have that.

Roger Linn, hero:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Roger_Linn_%E2%80%9CDrum_Machines_Have_No_Soul%E2%80%9D.jpg

^_^

Roger Linn Shelved Products

Some good nerding out on this thread. Just to put it to rest, after Jam & Lewis talked about it a few years ago on Questlove's podcast and David Garibaldi confirmed it:

-It's definitely Linn LM-1

-David Garibaldi programmed the beat as a preset, which Prince based the song on.

ha, the first thing i did when i got home today was work out 777-9311 on drums.

― some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:38 PM (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol, I do remember trying to figure it out but I probably wasn't playing it very well. Went back to it this week and it's a bit closer:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CdbCDpYFq_F/

nice playing

interesting idea to program a beat like that

23:30, more or less

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOapYnlQMNQ

Insane skills Jordan!

ty!

Prince performing "777-9311" with The Time in Paris back in 2011. @BartFunk pic.twitter.com/WnoCa45cvx

— Bass Magazine (@BassMagOnline) August 18, 2022

Prince performing 777-9311 with Prince

(cool though, I love that he was playing bass live)

Yeah, I noticed the lack of Time.

I saw him play "Kiss" once and for some reason he played lead slap bass instead of guitar.