New Apple Lust Objects

Wha? Everything I read said you either needed to have 10.5 or else buy the the "Mac Box Set" with iLife and iWork bundled for £129.

It's all inconclusive right now until we get the disks in hand on Friday. See also:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=773217

Installing over, myself, just had to have the whole thing wiped/rebuilt after a HD failed in the spring anyway, so it's pretty clean.

well this guy likes it - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/technology/personaltech/27pogue.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=global-home

Yeah, that's the licence. But the disks in the box don't check; they're full installer. WSJ and MacFormat reviews both say so.

I was swizzed! Seems odd to me though - if Apple wanted you not to skip Leopard, surely it would have been easy for the disks to check your system for 10.5? Maybe they couldn't face the whining from people needing to reinstall it down the line not being able to, having thrown out their 10.5 discs by then or whatever.

You're probably right about that - an existing OS or disc check would've been easy to do. If it's true, I'm glad - if I need to reinstall 10.6 later following a clean wipe, I won't have to reinstall 10.5 first or dig out my 10.5 disk.

The Box set seems like a good way to string people into buying iLife '09 on top of it, since it doesn't come included w/SL naturally.

You've been swizzed in the sense that it's technically possible to install from the $30 disk onto a blank hd, never mind a copy of 10.4, but if you're the kind of person/business that cares about EULAs then you have the advantage of being kosher.

yeah it's always been super easy to take advantage of Apple packages - who ever really needed to buy a family pack?

xp thanks for pointing out that iLife doesn't come with SL - guess I'll install over

So is this just showing up at store opening tomorrow? They usually do some dorky thing where they start selling it at 6pm and dorks can line up outside and possibly win things. I've dragged a friend along the last couple times for the, uh, people watching.

Don't think there's anything special, though I tried to get a Genius appointment for tomorrow and they were all blocked out.

available tomorrow from 10am

services overhaul might tip the scales for me

didn't notice the queue of men in the b.street apple store and just waltzed upstairs and bought one

might do a clean install, can someone refresh my memory how to save my itunes playlists??

right so what do I now?

why aren't 4-finger gestures showing up under trackpad sys prefs?

it did give me back 10GB however; which was nice

Starting to get really irritated that Apple considers iPhoto an "extra" and bundles it with stuff that I'd wager is used by around 5%-10% of buyers. I have used iMovie three times in the past... six years? just to put some fade-outs onto home movies. I have used Garage Band once, never used iWeb and... what else is there. I like iPhoto, use iPhoto, and want to upgrade iPhoto.

the new installer means that clean installs are allegedly not necessary with this upgrade, but if you want to do it then i would clone your pre-upgrade disk to another hard drive and use the migrate thing. if you're just bothered about itunes then just take a copy of the Music folder in your home and then drop that back in place after the upgrade.

Why am I sitting watching this installer? Box is pretty dull -- only three things they can think to highlight are Grand Central, Exchange support and "refinements". Feels like OS 9 -> 9.1.

Should have had Marble, really.

There are some not-awful desktop pictures included. And they've changed the font smoothing again. hum. what do i do now?

move some icons on your desktop around and then choose "clean up". that's the coolest thing I've found so far

ooh nice

Whoot, work has just bought me a new Mac Book Pro 13 inch, which arrives next week, so I shall get snow leopard goodness later although I am tempted to go and get snow leopard anyway as the old laptop will remain filling in as the TV.

my iMac is notably faster. SWEET.

right click on desktop and right click on dock app shd give you the same style menu imo : /

Am pretty sure they've started on Marble and then tried to back out. Things in various places just look a bit weird, like the close/min/max window buttons aren't properly recessed anymore, just a bit smudgy.

This totally blew up my iPhone connection btw. Fix:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1747

quick look is def leopard's killer app.

alt+space for a full-screen quick look in SL

your icons seem to need to be a certain size before they'll allow u to live preview too

here are the wallpapers missing in the final release of SL: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0tnlmj1tmje

overall finder and spaces performance is juuuuust improved enough to be noticeable... also gained bout 7 gigs back of free space which is cute. didn't know about alt+space, nice...

I do like how when you do the Show all spaces > Expose thing, it shows the app name on all the windows now, which is definitely helpful when you have a million little windows so you don't have to mouse over them anymore to figure out what's what.

how can i install from disk image on a HD? ;)

got this advice from a dodgy site, so who knows if it's right but...

if you have an external drive, USB drive, iPod:

-open disk utility
-select your USB drive
-choose restore from the tabs on top
-drag the image over the "source" field or use the "Image" button next to it to navigate to your image
-as target drag and drop your usb drive into the "target" field
-check erase target volume (not necessary but just to be sure)
-hit restore and wait
-reboot your mac with your usb drive plugged in
-hold the option key on bootup and choose your USB drive as startup device
-install as usual

obv. you have to wipe the external drive to do that

10 mins in, and everything seems to be running better than before (after an initial hiccough where my dock hiding and bluetooth keyboard weren't working at all). Logitech Control Center no longer thinks I have a mouse to configure, though. Will look at that tomorrow.

See http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/ for a useful wiki of app compatibilities.

Mouse fixed. Chrome fucked.

Everything seems to be working so far, although it seemed to need to do some directory scanning to recache icons and such. Kind of snappier, so far.

Fuck - XGestures is now broken. I need my mouse gestures!

when you boot into boot camp, there are updated Boot camp drivers, and some weird options about remoting into a macbook air or something

Since the MBA doesn't have a disc drive, it's used to install Snow Leopard over the network onto it. What's surprising is that you can do it from Windows now instead of having to do it from a networked Mac.

XGestures updated and SL friendly!

I have a new 3GS.

snow leopard has definitely made my machine faster: apps load faster, wakes up from sleep quicker, boots up and shuts down quicker too

hate how it has to quit and re-open prefs. for some of the pref panes tho

Right, that's to load 32-bit prefs, apparently. It seems like a lame implementation but maybe it's the best available.

Shutdown is really damn quick, yeah.

I've been switching between the 3GS and the OG iPhone for testing and the difference in speed there is nuts. OG really crawls along sometimes.

hey dudes, I don't think you are actually getting 7GB back...are you?

Understanding storage drive capacity in Mac OS X v10.6 and later

In Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard, storage capacity is displayed as per product specifications (base 10). A 200 GB drive show 200 GB capacity (for example, if you select the hard drive's icon and choose Get Info from the Finder's File menu, then look at the Capacity line). This means that, for example, if you upgrade from an earlier version of Mac OS X, your drive may show more capacity than in the earlier Mac OS X version.

The storage drive in your Apple product, like all storage drives, uses some capacity for formatting, so actual storage available for applications will be less. In addition, other factors, such as pre-installed systems or other software and media, will also use part of the available storage capacity on the drive.

fresh installs are quite a lot smaller because it no longer installs all printer drivers (downloads them as needed, saving 2-3GB), but the base-10 thing is apparently the the main factor in 'i have 10GB more space after upgrades.

who cares whether 7GB is 7GB dyao!!! 7GB is 7GB!!!!

lol

sorry I ws drunk when I wrote tht I think

anyway, new quicktime > old quicktime, for the lack of chrome alone