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'TDT' radio show

ie 'on the hour' (in b4 sotcaa smackdown).

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"the double-nine". is this new ilx trucker lingo?

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

'TDT' radio show

ie 'on the hour' (in b4 sotcaa smackdown).

on which Morris had only as much if not less input than Lee, Herring, Marber, Baynham etc. [/sotcaa swot]

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah well.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i only became aware of morris really round the period of BES '01. actually i saw jam when i was about 14 but had been all "where's the lolz?" in 1998 adam and joe were ruling my comedy anyway. thing about morris thou is that he, perhaps inadvertently, has built up this mystique. the BES furore cemented this image of reclusive, mysterious, media agitator genius in impressionable minds. then you go back and watch the dvds and yeh he was hot. it seems he's become like peter cook but without the being dead get out clause. actually his career maps pretty well onto that of radiohead. yeh chris morris is the thom yorke of comedy. i can't wait to get LJ's view on this.

fig 1
the day today = bends
brass eye = ok computer
blue jam = kid a
jam = amnesiac
BES = hail to the thief
nathan barley / it crowd = the eraser

acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link

isn't the whole reason Morris went to C4 to do his 'own' thing because they all fell out over who got the credit for what material etc.

as a team they really were a 90s Python only with a much more 'subliminal' influence on everything after (they're all known but not really as celebrated as Python gang were after they disbanded). i know the comparisons only stretch so far.

After Python there seemed to be quite a gap between something like that and early 80s 'alternative' 'edgy' stuff (Comic Strip etc.), only a handful of decent well crafted sitcoms in the 70s - which seems stranger and stranger looking back. perhaps we're seeing a similar effect even now with Whitehouse having killed laughtrack sketchom only for it's reanimated corpse to stalk the lands taller than ever before in Little Britain and Tate. Gervais is an anomaly with ridiculous carte blanche but can take 'credit' for pushing 'reality comedy' into mainstream. The conventional sitcoms remains thwarted, no show in that vein unable to command mass appeal of even mid 90s predecessors.

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link

no because 'the bends' was suckage and 'the day today' was not.

i think you're gonna have a very different perspective than me tbh, my dad knew about him before i did via radio 4 and he basically made me watch 'the day today', and then there was the radio one music show which was a revelation -- but also not infallible. so yeah the post-jam mystique is a bit lame, but it really is a recent development within his career, and arguably it ended with 'nathan barley' anyway.

xpost

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link

yeh chris morris is the thom yorke of comedy.

or the Mel C.

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

undergrads don't call mel c a "genius" much. maybe they did in 1998...

acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh Christ, people were doing the Morris maps to Radiohead thing on SOTCAA eight years ago. Sorry, perhaps you weren't to know that.

Yes, his very best work is probably behind him but I have a lot of time for most of his stuff post-BE. It was the "utter shit"/"I turned it off during the ad break" reaction of many posters on the SOTCAA/NotBBC/CaB forums to the BE P43d0 Special back in 2001 that made me realise that I just wasn't going to hack it as one of that crowd. Maybe I'm too easily amused.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

re python -- mark s's boy ben thompson says more like the 'beyond the fringe' crew and he's otm.

cook - morris
miller - marber
moore - coogan (ok it breaks down a bit here)
bennett - iannucci (wheels: off)

but he's still sort of otm.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:39 (seventeen years ago) link

under-rated show (but then so is TMWRNJ)

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

but then i think TMWRNJ is ultimately better than any Morris-led stuff.

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

ah well yes, TF/SNA.

iannucci has come back from post-TDT mediocrity (imo) to awesomeness. to be fair he's more of a producer than the other stuff but even still.

'TMWRNJ' has never been underrated on this talkboard.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd say it has actually, TMWRNJ, The Adam and Joe Show, and In Bed With Medinner are the holy trinity of 90s comedy. It's impossible to overrate them.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

but then i think TMWRNJ is ultimately better than any Morris-led stuff.
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 16th, 2007.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40897000/jpg/_40897670_crackpipe203spl.jpg

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link

GOOD ARGUMENT

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

eight years ago? ha! ok any band / artist (accidently?) living on mystique earned during the 90s then.

xp

acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Oasis

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

2Pac

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

tricky

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Longtime Stylus faves Embrace

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Whatever piece of shit band Perry Farrell is in these days

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

thin blue line

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

oops

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

chris morris and peter cook made a good radio series together called "why bother?". er, download it from somewhere, its worth it!

zappi (joni), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, OK, maybe it wasn't 8 years ago (I associate time spent slapping my forehand in frustration at idiotic SOTCAAishness [and mostly not posting] with goofing off on the Web during my pharma job in Welwyn and that was 8 years ago); perhaps the Radiohead thing was more in the wake of BES. I'm not about to run any searches to try and find out.

Whither Lionel Nimrod?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link

bit i remember from hearing that is peter cook say somethin along the lines of "oh you're going to make me work aren't you."

xp

also surely the true inheritors of brass eye are balls of steel and the friday night project. in a roundabout kinda way. alex zane mocking anne frank writer is speak yr brain fed through the millenial vice mentaility.

acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

whatever you say chief.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm aiming to get head hunted by comment is free.

acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

"the true inheritors of brass eye are balls of steel and the friday night project"

you made me sick up a little

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link

but you can see so much shit where someone has seen brass eye a bit of jackass (maybe some beadle) and said "we could do that only a bit more..." i'm not sure what the next word would be.

acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

"relevant"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be very surprised if the pitch for Friday Night Project didn't mention Morris at some point, put it that way.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"Brass Eye meets Jackass for the Libertines generation ON DRUGS" or summat

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

have you fellas seen 'brass eye'? it's like a parody of 'panorama'?

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

The question isn't have I seen it, it's has TV funnyman Marc Dolan seen it.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Y'see, you just mention FNP or BoS and straightaway I'm quite keen to get back to Stewart Lee talking about Rape An Ape.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

What should be on Channel 4 on Friday nights?

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link

all those funny programmes the americans talk about. '30 rock' and whatnot. it couldn't be any worse than the carr/JLC axis.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

they're not allowed to rely on American imports like that.

when Celeb BB finishes what will they do. show a film?

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

they're not allowed to rely on American imports like that.

rly?

my recollection of the 1990s (which is pretty good!) is that they always showed 'friends' and 'frasier' on fridays.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

They should have snapped up 'Entourage' - Sundays Dorkapalooza ep was sublime, but how many people watch ITV2?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

space 1999 is wasted on ITV4

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

my recollection of the 1990s (which is pretty good!) is that they always showed 'friends' and 'frasier' on fridays.

and now Ugly Betty. my point is they can't show JUST American shows on a Friday night.

is Entourage really as good/bad as people keep suggesting?

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

They should have snapped up 'Entourage' - Sundays Dorkapalooza ep was sublime, but how many people watch ITV2?
-- Jerry the Nipper (jerrythenippe...), January 16th, 2007.

cosign, it should have been a lock.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i rly like 'entourage'.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw a bit of 'Whatever' again the other week. shudders.

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i tell you what is good. those 'spying on chavs' skits on Paramount between programmes.

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link


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