New York City is for sellouts

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and i do interpretive dance to Van Halen.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

is there anyone who lives in NY that actually hates it?

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

Sam there are bums everywhere I know, i wanted to do a diptych that shows: NY has more cultural collision weirdness, encountered on a daily basis, than any other American city i've been to BY FAR, but concomitant with this is more in-your-face human misery, encountered on a daily basis, than any other American city i've been to BY FAR

i hate it, Chris, or at least i've told myself that many times

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

I wanted to be a writer, and I knew that this was the place to make that happen.

Ya think? I dunno. I have wanted to be/always felt like I am a writer and all, but I figure urban mystique in your brain is where you find it, I can pitch to editors and hash out ideas on-line, you can download all the music and art and whatever you like in life these days, and I can walk out from my door and get great ramen, soul food, Cuban cuisine and fish tacos (and Iranian and Indian food etc.) within a hundred yards. So I dunno, it seems less necessary that NYC specifically should be it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

Tracer's German Soul Food photo is the most OTM thing on this thread. I was gonna post a defense of my town but he's already said it all.

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

I admit that's pretty sweet. There's this one Chinese 50s style drive in around OC that could rival it, though.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

I think the best place to live as a writer is the place that makes you feel like writing -- I'm not sure local networking is as necessary as it was before the prevalence of the internet, and even comic book writers -- who need to exchange stuff back and forth between editor and artist and letterer and keep to a monthly schedule -- live all over the planet now.

NYC undoubtedly offers more writing-related job opportunities than many places, though.

(The German Soul Food is one of the few things that has made me want to visit NYC.)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

I don't understand. It looks just like German food only the word "soul" is thrown in there for no reason that I can see.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

it's pretty much our platonic ideal of 'the city;' anywhere else is just 'a city.'

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, moving to NYC to pursue a creative field=well and good.

Being moved to write verse/stories/songs/scripts about it and capture the "vibe"=horribly cliche.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

But do ya got Thai gyros? I THOUGHT NOT.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

NYC undoubtedly offers more writing-related job opportunities than many places, though.

I'm sure you're right there, given the publishing houses and all -- since that's never really appealed to me as a career path, NYC was never going to be a beacon on that front, but for others (Nabisco, for instance?) it would be a darn good holy grail.

it's pretty much our platonic ideal of 'the city;' anywhere else is just 'a city.'

*rubs chin* Sorta yes, sorta no. Mine seems to be a combination of NYC's transit setup with Melbourne's beachfront and SoCal's food.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:54 (twenty years ago) link

I don't understand. It looks just like German food only the word "soul" is thrown in there for no reason that I can see.

and therein lies the humor

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

As far as a place to be that makes you feel like writing a big city wouldn't do it for me. Too many distractions. Im country all the way. Give me cow shit, green grass, pine trees and lakes.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/summer/popband.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/summer/skyline.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

I've got a pop band here in my pocket!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/myhouse.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

NY has more cultural collision weirdness, encountered on a daily basis, than any other American city i've been to BY FAR, but concomitant with this is more in-your-face human misery, encountered on a daily basis, than any other American city i've been to BY FAR

That's because, what 8 million people pack themselves into 25 square miles or something every single day? (i'm pulling these numbers out of my ass but I'm sure they're not too far off). That's one of the biggest reasons I have for no longer living there.

The most desolate, decript bums I've ever encountered were in London.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/blizzardycar.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

I guess I was expecting this big culture clash mash up of greens and wurst or something.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/budweiser.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.kossarsbialys.com/

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

Get yer brats on.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/panties.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/summer/avenuex.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~sack/us25.jpg

We have a million diners.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.co-ra.com/~gourlay/scrytch/images/portfolio/places/full/2000-nyc-cloisters-vaulted-ceiling.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/summer/cyclone.jpg

(these pictures are all my answers to the question)

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

An old mental hospital.
>img src="http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~sack/us14.jpg">

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/summer/freakshow.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

An old mental hospital.
http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~sack/us14.jpg

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

Those winter pictures are lovely Ally, but really could be in any city in the midwest.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.sixfoot6.com/photos/ryan/nyc/river4bridgewide.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

But if we have the pictures, do we need to go now? *hides*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.tribeofman.com/images/NEW%20YORK%20CITY%2311.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

Those winter pictures are lovely Ally, but really could be in any city in the midwest.

B-b-but if you move here you can have the midwest AND Germany AND Worcester and a million other places all in one city with an easily navigable and reasonably cheap transportation system!

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:04 (twenty years ago) link

I'm wondering too if there could be any cache to moving to NYC now, after 9/11. Thoughts?

I think most of the reasons one would have for living and loving where you live are personal. They can seem like nice reasons to others but unless they're *your* reasons no one else is going to get them.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

They couldn't be any city in the midwest--all those photos were taken about 2 feet from Central Park, which is the nicest municipal park I've ever gone to in any city.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/after.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.liberty-stone.com/oystercounter.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

Not technically in the city but within such a reasonable distance:

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/belmont.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

http://newmedia.jrn.columbia.edu/2003/islands/zone3/images/zone1_historylobster.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

Seriously, the pictures are really good pro-NYC arguments...

..for visiting.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

We aren't asking you to move here.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/July4/legoclash1.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

Heh, well the impetus of the thread was about people specifically moving to New York City.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

http://forgotten-ny.com/CEMETERIES/Prospect%20cemetery/prosp6.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

NA - I'll try to justify later, but for people who live here, honestly, we hold the truth to be self-evident

(also, um, some people grew up here)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, but I don't WANT any of you people moving here!

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

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