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Have you heard Saunders' Issac Babel reading on the New Yorker podcast?

C0L1N B..., Wednesday, 13 August 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

no wai cutty -- slothrup would barely be parachuting within the first two hours, and that's omitting the musical numbers.

i do not think coens are a great match, because of their tendency to flatten the whole range of humor into one dry sadistically funny band, and i would submit alex cox as a better director.

remy bean, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't think you could do it justice in 2 hours! you'd have to leave too much out and all of the plot digressions are what make the book what it is.

also i think the coen brothers would make it too hokey. i don't really think gr could be made into a worthwhile film, actually.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

i would say maybe terry gilliam over the coen bros tho

bell_labs, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

howz about coens for the dance numbers, someone else for the rest.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Have you heard Saunders' Issac Babel reading on the New Yorker podcast?

wrong thread?

cutty, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, yes. That was for "Book Remakes".

C0L1N B..., Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

just found a link to it, i will check it out!

cutty, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

and that's omitting the musical numbers.

the musical number in the white visitation room with all the lab workers in a maze, damn that would be so awesome.

cutty, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I think this would have to be an animated film to work properly.

Also Louis, I would recommend reading it as quickly as possible and not trying to follow it too closely, just enjoy the language and humour, and then re-reading it extensively at your leisure.

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

the coens could totally do JR by Gaddis--a bunch of people talking over each other for 2+ hours

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

resurrect altman

remy bean, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

lol singing and dancing octopus

remy bean, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

question is who plays rocketman?

cutty, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

bill pullman in a surprise cameo

remy bean, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Well already I'm very pleased with the nonchalant approach to the absurd evident in Pynchon's writing-style. I've heard it scales astonishing heights of intense and comic intricacy. Sounds fab. Will get on the case as soon as I get home tomorrow.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Roberto Rodriguez would do a fab job, maybe with particularly surreal sections either by Pixar or rotoscope-style (or both!)

s.clover, Saturday, 16 August 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

pynchon really needs an action director for the most part, and a straight-up genre director in general.

s.clover, Saturday, 16 August 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Is this book anything like 'O Lucky Man'?

I have to say the X-Treme enthusiasm for this over the entire history of ILX has made me not want to read it, ever.

Abbott, Saturday, 16 August 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Not being funny, but y'know O Lucky Man is a re-working of Candide, right? GR does have elements of them in it, come to think of it. I understand what you mean about being off-put, but I think it's beautiful and like most big beautiful books best approached as a quilty wonderland to get lost in rather than as a code to break or a mountain to climb.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 16 August 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

richard kelly

kl0pper, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry, coen brothers suck. who could be this funny and amazing? no one. leave it as a fucking book for once.

strgn, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Noodle Vague OTM re "quilty wonderland"

I am using your worlds, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link

yes! why some things should never be film adapted unless they are something completely different

strgn, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Could work as an ongoing prime time soap opera style serial though, 30 mins a week in perpetuity. And I still think an animated version might work.

I am using your worlds, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link

totally, anything serial or genre. animated would be amazing but crazy. graphic novel?

strgn, Monday, 18 August 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

There is some German film based on (bits of) GR. It also features Robert Forster out of the Go Betweens! Trailer is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ046SJpl8E

Stevie T, Monday, 18 August 2008 12:36 (fifteen years ago) link

"as per leslie fiedler there is little difference, generically, between sex porn and horror-porn"

huh well even for leslie fiedler that's cracky

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i haven't reread this book in like almost two years! this makes me sad.

thomp, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 00:25 (fifteen years ago) link

malcolm mcdowell would be the best of all possible slothrups

remy bean, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 02:10 (fifteen years ago) link

leave it as a fucking book for once.

generally, i agree with this sentiment. but i think the narrative of GR is one of the most brilliant and beautifully crafted things i have ever read. i would love to see it in visual form. preferably while pynchon is still alive and is willing to work on it. most likely that will never happen.

cutty, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

there's always the opera, which he technically agreed to

thomp, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

coogan?

s.clover, Friday, 22 August 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

x post

He only agreed for the opera if it was entirely scored for kazoo

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 23 August 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Banjo, I think.

Stevie T, Saturday, 23 August 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

It is now almost exactly 5 years since I finished this book. I hope it has improved a bit in that time.

the pinefox, Monday, 25 August 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Or maybe you have?

s.clover, Monday, 25 August 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought it was ukulele; I wonder if the whole story is actually apocryphal.

I am quite impressed that the pinefox finished this book, considering his distaste for it.

thomp, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link

more & more I think certain aspects of its reputation are unearned, but also unaimed for � aspects which help it maintain a kind of cachet without helping readers or potential readers read it better, or read anything else

I tend to change my mind twice about whether any novel of P.'s is any good at least twice during the course of a reading. I have decided to reread Against The Day next, but only if I see the American edition somewhere.

thomp, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Though uke and kazoo are both plausible, according to LA herself it was banjo:

http://www.transmitmedia.com/svr/vault/anderson/ander_transcript.html

Stevie T, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Well already I'm very pleased with the nonchalant approach to the absurd evident in Pynchon's writing-style. I've heard it scales astonishing heights of intense and comic intricacy. Sounds fab. Will get on the case as soon as I get home tomorrow.

-- Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:33 (2 weeks ago) Link


HOW ARE YOU SO GOOD AT MAKING THINGS I LIKE SOUND TERRIBLE

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

robert downey jr gains 40 pounds and plays slothrop, please

cutty, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

took me like five months but i finally finished it

fleetwood (max), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

sounds like it was a chore for you

velko, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

shit i need to do this

kell surprise (country matters), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

it would probably be in my top 10 favorite books.

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

congrats max, i couldn't even get all the way through the crying of lot 49 ;_;

steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

lol xp

i read the first 10 pages last summer and they were great...but then i just stopped...i've not been in the habit of reading novels since graduating, and now i actually don't have the time to even if the urge struck

but this in every way sounds like the kind of thing i'd go nuts for

kell surprise (country matters), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

crying of lot 49 is nowhere near as good as GR or M&D or IV imho

Mr. Que, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I have as yet to finish M&D. I'm not sure why it felt like such a struggle - maybe it was the historical period and subjects it tackled.

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

no, it wasnt a chore, but the last 150 pages were kind of tough going for me

fleetwood (max), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link


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