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Yeah, exactly.

Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

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The Narrow Margin

Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:13 (eighteen years ago) link

"Oh wake up, Brown, this train's headed straight for the cemetery. But there's another one coming along, the gravy train. Let's get on it."

Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Hm. the director of The Narrow Margin, Richard Fleischer, just died. Please forgive him his later filmography.

The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
cool thread, love the Scarlet Street mentions.

I recently saw John Boorman's Point Blank. I'm assuming maybe it doesn't exactly fit into the "noir" category, maybe neo-noir, "hollywood rennaissance"? I love how lots of people die in it and the main character's motivation is violence and revenge, but nobody gets killed by him. Such a fantastic movie with some very funny/brutal parts.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd call it maybe a "daylight revisionist noir." Lots of sunshine, anomie and bitter laughs.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

re: The Narrow Margin, i love that once marie windsor's true identity as a cop is revealed, charles mcgraw could care less that she died.

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

er, couldn't care less.

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol17/issue09/screens.windsor.3.gif

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I agree, although some people say that the movie is prevented from being truly great because there is no scene of him seeing her dead body being removed from the train, some people being William Friedkin on the DVD commentary and Eddie Muller in his book.

In The Court Of The Redd King Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
"Two things I can smell inside a hundred feet: burning hamburger and a romance."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 03:51 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...

"I bet your the kind of man that does push-ups every morning just to keep his belly hard."
"..You got something against good health?"

poortheatre, Friday, 31 August 2007 09:28 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Just saw something about Richard Fleischer by Dave Kehr in the Times- a few films showing at the Walter Reade and Film Comment in the coming weeks.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 17 February 2008 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh man just saw Night and the City starring Richard Widmark. One of the bleakest noir films I've ever seen. Widmark is amazing in it.

brownie, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Richard Fleischer thing starts on Friday at FF. It's in color- in Cinemascope!

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Wow this 1948 UK film Daughter of Darkness was just given dvd reissue by Redemption films. It's both British noir and femme fatale wrapped in one with plenty of chiaroscuro and gothic vibe. Definitely recommended.

http://www.thelmagazine.com/images/blogimages/2009/09/30/1254335093-daughterofdarkness.jpg

Nate Carson, Sunday, 29 November 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I think I'm noir illiterate. Watching the big sleep - drunk, granted - and I can't make a lick of sense out of it.

pithfork (Hurting 2), Friday, 19 February 2010 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link

iirc an actor approached hawks before filming the scene for his death. "i know my lines, howard," he said, "but who kills me?" and hawks thinks for a second and says "well hell, i'm not sure. hang on." so he rings faulkner, who wrote the screenplay, and he asks him "hey bill, who kills this guy?" and faulkner says "damn howard, I'm not sure. hang on." and he telegrams chandler "who killed butler STOP hawks wants to know STOP"

next day hawks gets a telegram: "hell if i know--ray"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 19 February 2010 05:38 (fourteen years ago) link

iyigd

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 February 2010 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link

why chandler had to telegram hawks when they were in the same city is beyond me, but i fuckin love that story

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 19 February 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought Chandler's line was actually "who cares?" which I think is funnier.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 February 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Isn't there some companion story of Hawks saying something to the effect that making that movie taught him that the plot didn't really have to make sense?

the clones of tldr funkenstein (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 February 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

the studio thought the original was boring and made him do reshoots. the result capitalized on the bogart-bacall relationship but made less sense.

hawks continued to make films whose scripts were well-crafted by conventional standards.

later people began to interview this great maestro, this incomparable innovator of cinematic form, and he made up some stories that made him sound cool but don't really accord with the facts.

sharter the unstoppable ilx machine (history mayne), Friday, 19 February 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll buy that.

the clones of tldr funkenstein (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 February 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

the original cut is on the US DVD and it gives an explanation for the chauffeur's death.

abanana, Saturday, 20 February 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone seen Nightmare Alley? I have seen most of the classics save, Detour and this. Think I like Kiss Me Deadly or Gun Crazy best.

Hinklepicker, Sunday, 28 February 2010 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Spent last week at the Noir City festival - always tremendous, especially with Eddie Muller's commentary.

Jaq, Sunday, 28 February 2010 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link

nightmare alley is good, tyrone power trying to ditch the pretty boy rep

velko, Sunday, 28 February 2010 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

AFI Silver has just announced its 2019 Noir City DC lineup: https://silver.afi.com/Browsing/EventsAndExperiences/EventDetails/0000000010

Not sure yet which screenings I plan to attend, but a couple of them will be free co-presentations with the National Gallery of Art. And last year I liked Muller's intro to both versions of The Killers.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Friday, 13 September 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link


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