longish SFJ piece on Timba and Neps in NY Times Magazine

Well, there's no accounting for taste, but I'd add the rest of Test (it really does amuse me how overhyped "Work It" was compared to how underhyped Test is), "Dirt Off Your Shoulder," some of the stuff off Under Construction II, "Jump Off," etc. Shit, you might as well throw "Cry Me A River" in too given how that dominated 03.

I just think the guy's been too good for too long, and was good enough in 03, for anyone to be shouting "fell off"! Respect!

I ain't even gonna bother defending the Neptunes from all the hataz around here...

the whole "country-fried" schtick really has seemed to re-ignite tim somewhat, but i'm not exactly sure where he can GO with it. some tracks on the bubba album give me a shiver, but they could also be by any journeyman producer who hit upon an effective formula. (little of it SOUNDS like timbaland on first listen, and i can't decide if that's good or bad.)

So let me see...

"he now needs to reinvent himself every year"

"little of it SOUNDS like timbaland on first listen"

Doesn't B answer A?

I have to say, I hope I disagree with you, as Clipse were my big hope for the Neptunes.

they sound much "huskier" than on the debut.

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anyway, yeah, i never said that the country-hop stuff WASNT tim's reinvention from last year (though, it's not...go listen to "bubba talk" from the first bubba album) (and i'd argue that the "darker" sound of the this is not a test singles and "the jump off" were actually the reinvention that snagged the publics attention.) (the idiots.) but for the most part the only bit of aesthetic unity to the country schtick is the samples...the beats could be anyone, and that's something you COULDNT say about tim between 96-early99. i guess the life and times of s. carter really was the turning point: four beats so different that you had to check the booklet to see who produced them.

I like the "here is this year's sound" aspect of Tim.

When I think of the 'Neptunes sound' I always think of the plastic ray-guns sound on Kaleidoscope even though they've not done anything like that for about 3 years :(

Deliverance isn't a full country-hop album?

It looks like I'll just have to wait for Clipse to come out - any tracks that actually did stand out?

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Agreed, about "Deliverance" - a lot of the love for it comes not from country hip-hop combine as people are saying - but just because it has the best melodies in a Timbaland production for a while (feel free to disagree).

andrew my timbaland shopping list would probably run:

- the first four missy albums (but esp. supa dupa fly and miss e)
- jay-z - volume 3: the life and times of s. carter
- aaliyah - one in a million and the s/t
- bubba - dark days, bright nights and deliverance
- timbaland and magoo - tim's bio: life from the bassment

these are (as far as i can remember, first thing in the morning) the only albums he's produced 1/4 or more of.

for the neps:

- kelis - kaelidoscope (!!!!) and wanderland
- clipse - lord willin
- nerd - in search of

(if you can slsk, there's also a two disc "best of the neptunes" bootleg floating about that has most of the big singles up until 2001 on it.)

Regardless, I'd put that on your Timbaland shopping list.

Feel like putting the tracklisting of your Timbaland singles on your blog - I've been meaning to do my own boxset for a while.

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Vol. 1
1. Aaliyah – Are You That Somebody?
2. Tim & Magoo – Clock Strikes 12
3. Ginuwine – Pony (Remix)
4. Aaliyah – Hot Like Fire
5. Ludacris – Fat Rabbit
6. Aaliyah – Try Again
7. Ginuwine – (Actually I forget which song I put on here.)
8. Tim & Magoo – Up Jumps Da Boogie
9. Tim & Magoo feat. Jay-Z – Lobster & Scrimp
10. Jay-Z – Nigga What, Nigga Who
11. Timbaland & Magoo - Roll Out
12. Aaliyah – One In A Million

Vol. 2
1. Missy – She’s A Bitch
2. The Lox – Ride or Die Chick
3. Ginuwine – Final Warning
4. Jay-Z – Snoopy Track
5. Memphis Bleek – Is That Yo Chick?
6. Missy – Hit Em Wit Da Hee (Remix)
7. Jay-Z – Big Pimpin
8. Nas – You Owe Me
9. Total – What the Dealio?
10. Tim & Magoo – Love To Love You
11. Playa – Don’t Stop The Music
12. Aaliyah – 4 Page Letter

Vol. 3
1. Bubba Sparxx – Twerk A Little
2. Jay-Z – Hola Hovito
3. Ludacris – Roll Out
4. Missy – Whatcha Gonna Do?
5. Bubba Sparxx – Bubba Talk
6. Tweet – Oops, Oh My
7. Missy – The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)
8. Jay-Z – It's Hot (Some Like It Hot)
9. Missy – Get Ur Freak On
10. Aaliyah - If Your Girl Only Knew
11. Tim & Mag – Indian Carpet
12. Aaliyah – More Than A Woman

here's what been added in the interim

Vol. 4
1. Bubba Sparxxx - Ugly
2. Missy Elliot - Work It
3. Timbaland & Magoo - Drop
4. Missy Elliot - 4 My People
5. Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River
6. Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance
7. Aaliyah - Are You That Somebody?
8. Missy Elliot feat. Ludacris - Gossip Folks
9. Miss Jade - Big Head
10. Jay-Z - Hey Papi
11. Lil Kim - The Jump Off
12. Mad Skillz - Together

Vol. 5

1. Missy Elliot feat. Jay-Z - Wake Up
2. Jay-Z - Dirt Off Your Shoulder
3. Cee-lo - I'll Be Around
4. Bubba Sparxxx - Jimmy Mathis
5. Jay-Z - 2 Many Hoes
6. Pastor Troy - Are We Cuttin?
7. Petey Pablo - Raise Up
8. Tim & Mag - Cop That Shit
9. Missy Elliot - Beep Me 911
10. Nicole Wray - Make It Hot
11. Bubba Sparxxx - Comin Round
12. Petey Pablo feat. Bubba Sparxxx - The Gun Line

I wonder is SFJ was able to get away with such a large article due to heavy guilt/catch up from big media. - but yes harass SFJ for the uncut twice as long essay to be put on his blog (or at least a comment on how many changes were made - and who initiated the article NYT or SFJ).