New Yorkers: Weigh in on the Swiftly Sprouting ASTOR PLACE "Luxury" High Rise

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I'm with the Hand

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

There are levels of inexplicable beauty on this thread. I really want to visit NYC now.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 13 August 2004 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow I forgot all about that U.N. conversation.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 13 August 2004 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not like Astor Place was some kind of down-home human-sized place before this started, either. It's been K-Mart, Starbucks, and Crunch gym hell for YEARS now

I think what I object to the most about the project are the following:

1. Another great area of open space in Manhattan has vanished (or been severely comprimised).
2. The martini-swiggin', Eurotrash riff-raff it'll bring into the neighborhood.
3. Ian Schrager has enough damn money and enough of a stranglehold on Manhattan already
4. Gentrification sucks
5. I fear change.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

6. One less place to park one's car.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

4. Gentrification sucks

Gentrify Astor Place?

― Jimmy Mod, Man About Towne (ModJ), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I should say: one less place to pay handsomely to park one's car in an exposed, poorly-supervised lot.

I meant gentrification as a whole.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm just going to post this pic again, as I think it kicks an entire dinner table of ass!

http://www.desordre.net/photographie/photographes/robert_frank/astor_place.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I bet the dude in the hat is craving a venti Iced latte right about there.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I just walked past it on the way to the 6 (East Village reprezent) and, again, I agree. It's going to be an eyesore of a building.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

astor place has already had the hell gentrified out of it, as tracer points out. you describe it upthread as "skater kids, gutter punks, irritating NYU'rs and pretentious Cooper Union brats hanging out at the Cube right in front of your lobby, the constant traffic stemming from Lafayette zooming up to 4th Avenue, the constant spillout of human cattle coming in and out of the Astor Place subway station." it's like someone's trying to pave prospect park. the area is a total nightmare anyway. from an urban conservationist perspective, i don't see how this will make it worse. and if you're worried about martini-swigging eurotrash, note that page six ground zero butter has been right there on lafayette street for a while now.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh man fuck people who drive cars in Manhattan.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

the area is a total nightmare anyway

Well, yeah, but why make it worse?

Butter is awful. For some reason, I'm on their mailing list, and I cannot for the life of me fathom how that came to be.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

you knew someone in high school

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Could be. I went to its former incarnation as Belgo (and my wife stole an etched beer glass from them...very naughty), but never to Butter.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.newyorkled.com/sights/villagePublicTheater01.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.gratefuljoe.com/concerts/blondielandmark-7.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link

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― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

http://valerian.araneum.ca/Images/newyork/tvaudville.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link

http://valerian.araneum.ca/Images/newyork/stmarks.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.brama.com/news/press/030816blackout2003NYC/thumbs/030814blackout2003vl007people.JPG

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.brama.com/news/press/030816blackout2003NYC/thumbs/030814blackout2003vl003people.JPG

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

i http://www.brama.com/news/press/030816blackout2003NYC/thumbs/030814blackout2003vl004people.JPG

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link

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― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm waiting for the day amusement park-esque mascotts just start roaming the streets of NYC hugging everybody.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.offoffoff.com/film/2001/images/downtown81.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.continentalnyc.com/images/3.jpg

(for those wondering why I'm posting this pic of Nashville Pussy on a thread devoted to Astor Place, The Continental is just to the East of the building site on 3rd Avenue. I was actually at the show, I must confess).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.continentalnyc.com/images/cont_cd_v1.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Long gone....

http://webtunes.com/coney/coneys.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.popsmear.com/popculture/features/22/images/coneyoutside.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.in-nyc.com/in-bars/images/grassroots-tavern.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.nycgoth.com/shops/venus_records/venus_records.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, Alex. Your pics have made me nostalgic for places I pretty much disliked in the first place. Namely Coney Island High ('cept for the great, great Green Door parties in their basement space. Fond memories) and Venus. But - hey - Change, man. 'Tis inevitable.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 14 August 2004 00:57 (nineteen years ago) link

great Green Door parties in their basement space

I so miss those.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.beautifulmonde.com/pict/nyc_lower3.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.urban75.org/photos/newyork/images/ny376.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I walk past the second to last building every day on the way to the subway.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

And tonight walking past Tower I realized where you get your inspiration for the cover connections! I saw the Los Lobos cover and thought it was that Bunnymen best of.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

http://homepage.mac.com/alexinnyc/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-08-12%2011.35.12%20-0700/Image-96FA5D9CEC8D11D8.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

http://homepage.mac.com/alexinnyc/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-08-12%2011.35.12%20-0700/Image-96FA6888EC8D11D8.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.afscet.asso.fr/afscetcafe/gaston/astor_place_2.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.samsoloman.com/photoalbumn/ny2002/100-0095_IMG.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

This is making me nostalgic and I fucking live here.

― Jimmy Mod, Man About Towne (ModJ), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.jewishprintsandpaintings.com/images/CityscapeLandscape/BIGastorplacenight.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.a4.net/svensk/vykort/vykort01/img01/01_astor.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.tokyotales.com/gallery/photos/ny/street/astor31.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link

http://artsavant.com/images/wtcnyc/astorplace02.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

http://home.flash.net/~ral1/starbucks/bigimages/DSCN3414.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link

http://paperweight.cooper.edu/administration/eas_drafteis/EEKimage.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link

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