― p@reene (Pareene), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link
if you've read The Big Sleep you've read Chandler, basically -- but Farewell, My Lovely is my personal favorite Marlowe book.
― p@reene (Pareene), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Revivalist (Revivalist), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link
I've also had the novel Out of the Past is based on -- Build My Gallows High -- forever, but haven't read it (tho I've read that Daniel Mainwaring's adaptation of his own book is judged an improvement).
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link
HA, "loathsome." Yeah, Chandler was pretty irredeemably sour, but you know, Marlowe as chivalrous Arthurian knight in morally bankrupt world and all that; he's the most interesting character in pulp fiction, 'cause he's entirely self-loathing, never shoots or fucks anything, really a sort of pathetic repressed moralist masochist, he's as painful to watch as an early Woody Allen protagonist (impotent but for his cleverness, which just gets him beat up repeatedly), except he gets less satisfaction from this terrible modern society, 'cause Allen protagonists always get laid.
― p@reene (Pareene), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Cornell Woolrich is fun too.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― p@reene (Pareene), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link
The novels are distinguished by a combination of the hard fiction style of the late forties and a pervasive and morbid sense of psychology, in most cases pathological (psychiatrists and general discussions of insanity pervade the works). The protagonists are subject to extraordinary situations which provoke intense feelings of distress and mental agony, communicated to the reader with a lucidity that makes his storytelling logic surrealistic, fantastic, persuasive and disturbing at once.
― Revivalist (Revivalist), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link
Border Incident is in a new Noir box.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link
!!!
Of course, the only pre-"Space Seed" Ricardo I've seen is Cheyenne Autumn.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― duff (duff), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Friday, 16 June 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Saturday, 17 June 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 June 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Saturday, 17 June 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyone seen Cry Terror!... At Film Forum tonight, intriguing pairing of Mason and Steiger?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051501/
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link
How come we discussed Red Harvest and Enrique didn't come along to mention that Goldoni play?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link
The Farmer's Daughter is in that movie, Morbs?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I haven't seen it, no. I don't think I ever really watched the other feature either.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Has anyone got the recut of Touch Of Evil? Is it worth paying more for over the original?
― aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Absolutely.
― C0L1N B..., Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Redd, I don't believe Loretta Young is in it.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Touch of Evil is great if you can stand charlton heston.
it's tough to beat Out of the Past, although the faulkner-penned Big Sleep is classic, too (although the plot literally does not make any sense). I'm also a huge fan of Night and the City and Asphalt Jungle.
An interesting but unsuccessful noir is Dark Passage with Bogey and Bacall, which features a lot of 1st-person shots. Agnes Moorhead is great in it, however.
noirs i dislike: Force of Evil, The Postman Always Rings Twice (both John Garfield vehicles), Cat People (despite its alleged influence), Angel Heart (neo-noir).
― poortheatre, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Curse of the Cat People is better than plain old Cat People.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link
noirs i dislike: Force of Evil
!!!!
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Yar, The Big Sleep film is tough to follow, but that's down to the production code.
― aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
The I Love Film noir thread is pretty good; here's the link if it's not already upthread: film noir
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Morbius, have you seen that Danish movie that's at FF now?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link
no.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link
boo Force of Evil. yay Touch of Evil.
another borderline noir is Kurosawa's High and Low, although a proper noir has to end more pessimistically.
― poortheatre, Friday, 31 August 2007 09:26 (sixteen years ago) link
No mention here of D.O.A., which I saw last night. Man walks into police station, claims he's been murdered, then in classic noir fashion the whole movie is in flashback. It's not quite up there with the best noirs (Double Indemnity, Laura, etc.), but it's pretty terrific and almost an A-Z of noir tropes - flashback structure, protagonist doomed from the start, femme fatale/wholesome girl binary, urban paranoia...
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 25 January 2008 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Double Indemnity and Touch of Evil are my shit. All-time.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 25 January 2008 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link
hells yeah, BIG HOOS.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 25 January 2008 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Time to rep for Preminger's Fallen Angel and Where the Sidewalk Ends.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 25 January 2008 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link
'the big heat' ftw
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 25 January 2008 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Naked City was better than I'd expected.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 25 January 2008 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Just saw Murder, My Sweet. Pretty great. I'm still trying to work out the plot.
― brownie, Friday, 25 January 2008 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link
So awesome that Netflix has its own section for this. Just watched "Woman in the Window", which was okay.
Now have "The Asphalt Jungle" running.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 07:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Asphalt Jungle Le Doulos The Second Breath hell - basically just about all Melville that involves a raincoat or gun somewhere Double Indemnity T-Men let's see...
Too many to mention but it's my fave genre
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 07:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Gotta be The Third Man.
― chap, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 10:42 (sixteen years ago) link