― pm (p-m), Friday, 18 February 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 February 2005 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't dig Califone, Sin Ropas, etc at all though
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Friday, 18 February 2005 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― la camilla bf, Friday, 18 February 2005 02:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Friday, 18 February 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
I remember seeing them at the Blind Pig in Champaign just before the Jimmywine came out. There was all this buzz about the deal they signed a, like, twenty album deal with subpop or something. The place was *packed*. Then they came out and within three songs, half the place cleared out. By the end of the set there was maybe thirty people left. They were awful.
― john'n'chicago, Friday, 18 February 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
I was working in a record store in Chicago when Bunny Gets Paid came out, and sort of dutifully threw it on the player, and man, it just sounded so different to anything they had attempted before. Just a real nice album to soak in. Think maybe that was the height of Rituli's drug-phase? I dunno, don't wanna speculate on dude's personal life. But there's a real nice narcotic glow to that record. I still wouldn't call it genius or anything, but I have fond memories of it and it got me through not a few boring days at work. I don't own a copy of it though -- I've never actually owned any of their records, while still considering myself kind of a fan. How odd. I always intend to pick up that Bunny Gets Paid if I come across a nice cheap vinyl copy...
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 18 February 2005 03:01 (nineteen years ago) link
"There's a Star Over the Manger" and Califone is more like ambient music than a rock band. It all sounds o.k., but nothing really sticks.
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 18 February 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― David A. (Davant), Friday, 18 February 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 18 February 2005 05:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link
JM was the first of the RRM records I got, so that may have some influence on it being my favourite one. I don't think Califone are different enough (in music style or personnel) to justify a name change; Rutili's output is as good as ever, I feel.
― eoin_notts, Friday, 18 February 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― LaToya JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 February 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 19 February 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link
I cant beleive I never heard sin ropas til today, damn I thought I heard it all. sin ropas is a great new find. and califone still sucks comparably.. so boring
― ❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 23 November 2008 07:33 (fifteen years ago) link
What do Sin Ropas sound like?
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 23 November 2008 08:03 (fifteen years ago) link
like the slow red red meat songs - same voice. but more grungy and experimental than califone
― ❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 23 November 2008 08:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Seems like as good a place as any to talk about the deluxe reish treatment of Bunny Gets Paid that came out today on Sub Pop. Listening now and it sounds great, but as I missed this band the first time around (outside of a stray song or two) I don't have a whole lot to wax nostalgic about.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link
not gonna knock bunny but i'd like a deluxe reish treatment of jimmywine majestic. one of the best rock albums of the 90s. let's go, sub pop
― kamerad, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link
looking forward to hearing this. I was listening to jimmywine today. for a band that comes out with 50% meh songs... the other 50% sound godly.I really appreciate this band. some bands might have more good songs, but red red meat has more great songs if you know what I mean.
― CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link
50/50? really? i feel pretty much every song on that albumthey lock into a groove from the get go and don't let up till the last song
― kamerad, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link
probably what drew me to them the most initially is the vocals - if they had a crappy vocalist I wonder if I would have been such a hardcore fan.50/50 might be a bit harsh - I was going over all 4 albums and I definitely don't mind hearing any of them in their entirety.
my favorite album of theirs is either Bunny Gets Paid or A Star Above The Manger.... funny how tons of people would prefer Jimmywine and maybe the self-titled album more so.
I remember playing 'Just Like An Egg On Stilts' in the car, and someone thought it sounded terrible - heh, that noisy part near the end is incredible!
― CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 02:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i like those two too. it's just i prefer the earlier sleaze to the later abstraction. kind of how i still listen more to rrm than califone
― kamerad, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I couldn't ever listen to much califonebut the abstraction in There's a Star Above The Manger is pretty sleazy at times :)
― CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Saw these guys live a few days ago and it was fucking incredible. Did a cover of Low's "Words" that absolutely killed, too.
― ilxor, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 06:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I was recently able to score a copy of Loftus s/t cd. Red Red Meat and Rex members on a one off project. Intresting stuff recorded at a truck stop.
― Jim, Monday, 18 January 2010 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link
C
― Shitschnitzel (admrl), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
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― Evan, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:57 (twelve years ago) link
lassic
― the lovely T-Boz with the ill haircut (admrl), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
well it's true
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
Very much so
― Mule, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 07:03 (twelve years ago) link
bunny gets paid fills a place
― snack, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 07:09 (twelve years ago) link
Red Red Meat *and* Califone are playing the Empty Bottle in November and there are somehow still tickets.
― john. a resident of chicago., Monday, 2 October 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link
Been thinking about these guys lately. What a neat band. Bunny Gets Paid is great.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link
Love that one as well.
― Evan, Sunday, 21 January 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link
Such a great, singular band
― Mule, Monday, 22 January 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link
I remember once hearing an incredible cover of 'Gauze' from Bunny Gets Paid, but my searches are turning up nothing.
Does anyone know any covers of this song? Or am I making this up in my head? It's not impossible, my brain does this with music sometimes...
Bunny Gets Paid is a masterpiece btw.
― The Ghost Club, Thursday, 15 September 2022 05:47 (one year ago) link
Never heard it myself, but you may be thinking about Carissa’s Wierd’s cover. It’s on this:
https://www.discogs.com/release/571648-Carissas-Wierd-Scrap-Book
― Mule, Thursday, 15 September 2022 12:50 (one year ago) link
And yes, massive album
― Mule, Thursday, 15 September 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link
That's the one, thank you! Nowhere near as good as I remember it, sadly. Guess I used to have a higher tolerance for mumbly lo-fi slowcore...
― The Ghost Club, Thursday, 15 September 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link
Yeah, it’s really not all that. The original is magnificent though. Such an unsong band.
― Mule, Thursday, 15 September 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link
unsung, damnit
― Mule, Thursday, 15 September 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link
Totally agree, they're way too underappreciated.
The left turn they took on Bunny is amazing, like a lower-stakes version of the transformation Talk Talk took on Spirit of Eden. There's a willingness to embrace different textures and a looseness to the playing (without compromising composition) that totally works.
Carpet of Horses is a stunning statement of intent that really sets the tone for the record's textural highlights (Gauze, Nadia's Theme, Sad Cadillac). It's these detours that really puts into sharp focus the more propulsive highlights (Chain, Idiot Son, Oxtail). What a journey!
― The Ghost Club, Friday, 16 September 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link
like a lower-stakes version of the transformation Talk Talk took on Spirit of Eden.
This is a really good way to describe Red Red Meat, and something I had never considered before.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link
Agreed, very good observation
― Mule, Friday, 16 September 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link