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I don't get how anyone would think that The Edge doesn't dominate this album.

You have heard "Love And Peace Or Else" and "City Of Blinding Lights," right?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 8 November 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the album is atrocious. "Miracle Drug" is encouraging after the awful "Vertigo", but it's all downhill after that. "Yahweh" is one of the worst songs the band has ever recorded.

a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 8 November 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Seriously, have any of you heard "Love And Peace Or Else"?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

We're an army of two, Perpetua.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Heard it, yes. Recall it, no.

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link

"Love And Peace Or Else" = 'Where is the love?' X 'Run Christian Run'

"City of blinding lights" is growing on me actually. That chorus is great.

Michael B, Monday, 8 November 2004 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Seriously, have any of you heard "Love And Peace Or Else"?

Okay, that song's not too bad, but the production masks the fact that the music is rather middling. And the lyrics...yikes. They've run out of ideas.

It's the second half of the album that really sinks the whole thing.

a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the album is really good. City of Blinding Lights brings me back to the days of the Unforgettable Fire. There really seems to be a lot of blind hatred for this band.

mugs, Monday, 8 November 2004 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not a U2 hater (loved much of their 80s stuff) but I think the new one's a bit dreary. Not really terrible, it just sounds like a collection of forgettable songs gussied up with high-budget production. I like "Vertigo" and "Original of the Species", "Sometimes..." is okay.

Jeremy (Jeremy), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll freely admit that I like U2. The only album of theirs that I dislike is the last one. I was just disappointed with it more than anything. Because of thatm I'll also admit, I didn't want to like this one. I especially didn't want to like "Vertigo" because it seemed like another "Elevation". But I can't help it, and I do love it. It's fun and catchy and a great tune to drive around to. The rest of the album isn't bad at all. "Love And Peace Or Else" shocked me. By the title I never would have guessed it was as good as it is.

I think most of the U2 haters here are just pissed because they couldn't be cast as an iPod dancing silhouette.

Mike Salmo (salmo), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

they really are well into rolling stones irrelevancy time now aren't they?

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I love how people still think music has to be relevant.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 00:41 (nineteen years ago) link

A cursory listen tells me this album is everything they promised "All That You Can't Leave Behind" to be but wasn't. That is, old U2 sound paired with new U2 sound. Doesn't the second song (whatever its called) start out a bit like Tom Petty's "Rebels"?

Oh, and lack of Eno/Lanois surely doesn't mean much, given how much Mr. The Edge has learned from Eno and Lanois over the past 20 years. Plus, people shouldn't forget that Steve Lillywhite engineered the last several U2 albums, working along side Eno and Lanois.

Anyway, I want to give this disc a lot more time.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Eno and Lanois were involved in this album.

(Credits lifted from a U2 site.)

1. Vertigo (3:13)
Lyrics by Bono with The Edge, Produced by Steve Lillywhite, Backing
Vocals by The Edge, Synthesizers by Jacknife Lee

2. Miracle Drug (3:53)
Lyrics by Bono, Produced by Steve Lillywhite, Additional production by
Carl Glanville and Jacknife Lee, Piano and additional vocal by The
Edge, Backing vocal by Bono and Larry Mullen, Synthesizers and
Programming by Jacknife Lee

3. Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own (5:05)
Lyrics by Bono, Produced by Chris Thomas, Additional production by
Steve Lillywhite and Nellee Hooper, Keyboards and additional vocal by
The Edge

4. Love And Peace Or Else (4:48)
Lyrics by Bono with The Edge, Original Production by Brian Eno and
Daniel Lanois,
Additional production by Chris Thomas, Jacknife Lee and
Flood, Mixed by Flood, Synthesizers by Brian Eno, Piano and backing
vocals by The Edge, Shaker by Daniel Lanois

5. City Of Blinding Lights (5:46)
Lyrics by Bono, Produced by Flood, Additional production by Chris
Thomas and Jacknife Lee, Piano by The Edge and Bono, Synthesizers by
Jacknife Lee

6. All Because Of You (3:34)
Lyrics by Bono, Produced by Steve Lillywhite, Mixed by Flood, Backing
Vocals by The Edge, Keyboards by Jacknife Lee

7. A Man And A Woman (4:27)
Lyrics by Bono, Produced by Jacknife Lee, Backing vocals and aditional
percussion by The Edge, Synthesizers by Jacknife Lee

8. Crumbs From Your Table (4:59)
Lyrics by Bono, Produced by Steve Lillwhite, Additional production by
Jacknife Lee, Mixed by Steve Lillywhite, Flood and Jacknife Lee,
Additional synthesisers by Jacknife Lee

9. One Step Closer (3:48)
Lyrics by Bono, Original production by Chris Thomas and Daniel Lanois,
Additional production by Jacknife Lee, Additional guitar by Bono, Backing Vocals by The Edge, Additional guitar and Pedal steel by Daniel
Lanois, Synthesisers by Jacknife Lee

10. Original Of The Species (4:34)
Lyrics by Bono, Produced by Steve Lillywhite, Additional production by
Jacknife Lee, Mixed by Flood, Piano and synthesiser by The Edge,
Additional synthesisers by Jacknife Lee

11. Yahweh (4:22)
Lyrics by Bono with The Edge, Produced by Chris Thomas, Piano, synthesisers and backing vocals by The Edge, Mandolin by Daniel Lanois, Additional guitar by Bono

Basically, it's every major U2 producer minus Jimmy Iovine, plus Chris Thomas.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Hardly a shocker that the two best songs on the album are the Eno/Lanois and Flood productions, is it?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, it's interesting how some people are willing to tolerate crap lyrics from some people, but not from others. I can't defend Bono's current lyrics (mediocre at best, sorry to say), but I do think that the lyrics are just a small part of any song.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link

JtN quite likes it! He has gone public, on it.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I still haven't heard it. And I'm fine with that.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

i heard "vertigo" and afterwards couldn't stop singing the supremes "keep me hanging on". which i prefer.

bg, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

John Pareles on the new album:
"The album easily stands alongside the best work of U2's career - "Boy," "War," "The Joshua Tree" and "Achtung Baby" - and, song for song, it's more consistent than any of them."

john'n'chicago, Sunday, 14 November 2004 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I dl'ed it yesterday, listened to the first three songs and stopped there. Unless you absolutely dig present day-Bono, hearing him in relatively "stripped down" arrangements is fucking painful. When he's in a cloud of Eno Echo and swirly harmonies ("Beautiful Day") it's sort of sublime.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 14 November 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I dl'ed it yesterday, listened to the first three songs and stopped there. Unless you absolutely dig present-day Bono, hearing him in relatively "stripped down" arrangements is fucking painful. When he's in a cloud of Eno Echo and swirly harmonies ("Beautiful Day") it's sort of sublime.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 14 November 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link

apologies for the 2x post there

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 14 November 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link

there's good stuff on here but by the sixth or seventh song i can't take any more of it. u2 have a rule of releasing at least one great song per album and i'm sure if i listen more closely to this one i'll figure out what that great track is. right now all i remember is "vertigo," which isn't too bad.

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 November 2004 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Whoever compared "Vertigo" to "You Keep Me Hanging On" OTM.

What are the other songs like?

David A. (Davant), Sunday, 14 November 2004 06:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Whoever compared "Vertigo" to "You Keep Me Hanging On" OTM.

ermmmmmmmm, sorrrrrrrrt of. i can hear what you're saying.

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 November 2004 10:48 (nineteen years ago) link

jacknife lee is seriously involved ! gosh.

wonder if we'll see a reissue of the Compulsion back catalogue then .. or even a reunion ?

their last lp Medium is the Future was indeed a fucking excellent album .. all the freaky synth noises etc set to fantastic songs ..

mark e (mark e), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

In finally getting throught this entire thing, (CD, not thread) U2 has once again proven that a really dull and marginally talented group can be somehow appealing if they get a producer who can spin gold out of flax.

Vertigo, for some reason reminds me of Dirty Boots.

dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 15 November 2004 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Why does everyone keep invoking "Dirty Boots"? I've heard that song a million times since I was 13 and I just don't hear it in "Vertigo" even one tiny little bit. Either I'm crazy or you're lazy with your comparisons.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link

eighteen years pass...

Having finished Bono's memoir I go back to this CD. I'm a bit disappointed. It feels thinner than I hoped. Like ... "2000s rock-pop that might appeal to Steve Jobs", rather than the magical band I first loved.

"All Because of You", "Crumbs From Your Table", "Original Species" are all relatively low points.

I do have some affection for "Miracle Drug", tucked quietly between two 45s - and I was always quite impressed by "City of Blinding Lights". But I think the great underrated track here remains "A Man & A Woman". Melody, structure, voice, delivery, guitar, texture, words, it's all here - for once, in this era.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 12:40 (ten months ago) link

I was very underwhelmed with this album when it came out, but "City of Blinding Lights" is a keeper.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 15:40 (ten months ago) link

There's a lot of keepers on this, but despite everything it isn't that different from ATYCLB. They went on the attack, matching their New Rock-adjacent sound with the red/white/black album art and atomic bomb/target roundel icons, but they still gave it an unwieldy title rather than a quick snappy one - 'Vertigo' would have worked.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link

When this was first released I wasn't really enthusiastic about it, I mean their sound has always appealed and therefore I liked it but it felt flat. However I kinda found the vinyl reissue from several years back to be a bit revelatory, I don't know what they did but it sounds punchier and the songs sound more confident. If you happen to own a record player, I recommend picking it up. After hearing it anew i feel it's an album that hangs together much better than anything since, though it doesn't have the highs of NLOTH and does unfortunately have Yahweh, which is probably the least of Bono's religion songs.

omar little, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 16:16 (ten months ago) link

Good, well-informed posts - thanks.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 16:22 (ten months ago) link

I agree w/your take on 'a man and a woman', kind of an unwieldy title but a really strong cut.

omar little, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:05 (ten months ago) link

I was very underwhelmed with this album when it came out, but "City of Blinding Lights" is a keeper.

Same here. Still don't like the album, but when I saw them for the only time on the No Line on the Horizon tour, that track was a highlight, partly because "the spaceship" (or what was more commonly referred to as "the claw") opened up into a mothership out of a Spielberg movie and started spinning around, shining its lights across the stadium the entire time. A great spectacle even if the rest of the show was pretty uneven.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:55 (ten months ago) link

Just played 'Yahweh' again and I like a) the first few seconds before the verse starts and it feels like it will be more musically exciting than it is, b) when Bono dramatically sings, twice, 'this love is like a drop in the ocean' at the end of the bridge - the drama I think being in how he's belittling his own love (which with the minor chord music at that moment sounds ominous) rather than aggrandising it.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:55 (ten months ago) link

xp (I double checked and actually the structure itself didn't spin. Rather they created an illusion of spinning via the honeycomb of screens that covered the surface of the structure.)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 19:00 (ten months ago) link

"City of Blinding Lights," like "Happy" and "Can't Stop the Feeling!," became a staple of administrative gatherings + corporate nonsense that I couldn't hear it for the decent anthem it was for years. I prefer this album to ATYCLB: it's the Emotional Rescue without the title track, depending on what you think of "Vertigo."

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 19:19 (ten months ago) link

Egregiously clunky album title

Davey D, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 22:47 (ten months ago) link


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