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― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Caesar's Palace, morning glory, silly human silly human siillllyy huuuuuuman race....
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.doheth.co.uk/profiles/cbg.gif
― wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
I fucking love "Yours Is No Disgrace" so damn much. What a beautiful, beautiful song. Howe's playing on the whole Yes Album just blows me away.
I grew listening to WIOT out of Toledo, Ohio, and when 90120 came out they used to play "Our Song" all the time because it had that line "Toledo is just another stop along the good king's highway". Like, they actually thought it was about Toledo, Ohio!!
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Yes fans jonesing for more YESSOUNDS should totally check out those two latter-day Os Mutantes LPs, by the way. When they got all progged-out. Total Yes homages.
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link
I thought "yessed out" was some sort of cockney slang for "sucking it's own dick" or somethin'.
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Your mention of the "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" video reminded me there was one version that had a guy with maggots crawling around on top of his closed eyelids. Did "Fear Factor" rip off this idea? I think MTV stopped showing that version.
― wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link
i love yes. sometimes i'll be walking around and suddenly a bass line from some yes song will pop into my head and i'll be all excited.
would that ilm actually were a bit more yessed out.
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:54 (nineteen years ago) link
One of my (many) large gaps of musical knowledge is rock of any variety from 1970-1985 or so.
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Wobbly, if you're out there, tell your Jon Anderson at NAMM story . . .
best
Drew
― Drew Daniel, Friday, 27 August 2004 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link
at a booth that sells vocoder software there is a man earnestly saying in a silvery, elven speaking voice reminiscent of Glinda the Good Witch "no, no, NO, you don't understand. I want to make my computer-" and here he erupts into a shivery high melodious flutter "s-i-i-iing!" and it's HIM and he's singing the word "sing" in THAT Yes voice.
― Drew Daniel, Friday, 27 August 2004 05:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:54 (nineteen years ago) link
What is NAMM, anyway?
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― ___ (___), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link
I just watched some of that DVD "The Future Is Wild", the cheezy computer animated forecast of what freakish species will dominate this planet in 200 million years. It was very Yessed out too, CGI supercontinent-formation footage and giant global oceans (topographic tales of .. .)
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link
http://stat.discogs.com/R/262506-1103102672.jpg
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Olias of Sunhillow Critical Edition, with commentary track guest starring the 'scientists' from The Future Is Wild
― sharkopath (Jon L), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link
maybe a little like the trevor horn yes (or maybe i just wish it sounded more like trevor horn yes).
it's basically arp-heavy metronomic 1978 eurosynth cheese.
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― LaRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― 6335, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
I always see a Dean landscape, or some Art Nouveau P. Craig Russell planet landscape whenever I listen to Yes. Except for Yes mach-90125 and onward.
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link
I guess the only interesting thing in them was that apparently Eddie Jobson was in the "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" video. They tried to edit him out when he ended up not being in the band, but couldn't do it completely. The edits are one reason why the "plot" is so hard to follow.
― wetmink (wetmink), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link
and yes, there ARE maggots on the dude's eyes.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 27 December 2004 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 27 December 2004 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
BUT! just guess what my classic rock station is playing right now on their so-called DEEP CUT weekedn at this ungodly hour ...
yup, STARSHIP TROOPER!!
good god what a tune.
and i'm out
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 13 March 2005 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 26 August 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 20 January 2007 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link
wait, pat smear is listed "project assistance"!
did he tape one of the shows as a child?
― mark s, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:29 (five days ago) link
listed in wikipedia i mean, i know he's a steve howe fan but he was like 12 when this was recorded
― mark s, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:30 (five days ago) link
Since so many vids on the thread are no longer available here's one of my selfish faves. It was the only YES show I ever attended and is still one of theeee greates shows I've ever experienced. Well worth sitting through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez07S8hoE3g
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:32 (five days ago) link
oops sorry looks like it can't be posted here. Search "Yes new york city 2004"
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:33 (five days ago) link
Youtube, that is.
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:37 (five days ago) link
Clicking on the Watch on yt link gets me there.
― nickn, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:44 (five days ago) link
unperson OTM
progeny is yessongs raw and exponentiated. i wish YES got more love not least since maybe there'd be a never-ending grateful dead-esque dick's picks bootleg bonanza. they may not have improv-ed "dark star"-style but i could listen to dozens of "starship trooper"s when they were square in their prime
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:31 (five days ago) link
starship pooper
― calstars, Friday, 19 April 2024 20:34 (five days ago) link
party trooper
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:38 (five days ago) link
i saw one of the progeny shows! my second concert ever -- nassau coliseum '72. my dad drove us. i think lindisfarne opened but i have no recollection of them whatsoever. yes were cool as hell.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 19 April 2024 22:03 (five days ago) link
That Nassau show is amazing — the longest version of "Yours is No Disgrace" on the whole box.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 19 April 2024 22:20 (five days ago) link
At the risk of sounding like the guy who loves everything...
The hate for Tormato completely baffles me, I think it's a really fun album and I have great memories of it, I actually have more overall fondness for it than some of their albums with better highlight tracks.
Wakeman: I really like or love Six Wives, Journey To The Centre, King Arthur, No Earthly Connection, White Rock, Liztomania. That's as far as I've got and I'm ready for much more. I think he he odd choices in singers who fit a bit awkwardly but I still mostly enjoy them. There's bits on King Arthur which really blown me away and I'd love to hear anyone else who got similar effects (the super fast bits and the swirly bits) because I've never heard the like. If I had to recommend one I'd say No Earthly Connection.
Patrick Moraz's debut album is so much better than the funny curiosity I had heard it was, it's really incredible and eclectic. Really looking forward to hearing more of his solo albums, I'm so happy Cherry Red/Esoteric has several albums of his remastered. Hope to buy them all soon.
I feel like there's so many of the Yes solo albums which are second only to the very best Yes albums. I wish more people would check out Animation by Jon Anderson.
...and I hope you all remember I'm rarely this enthusiastic about many things, I really love all this music and it's completely deserving.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 April 2024 23:42 (five days ago) link
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/patrick-moraz-amp-syrinx-coexistence-remastered-cd-edition
nice to see the tradition on men's asses on prog covers was continued
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 April 2024 23:55 (five days ago) link
holy shit how have I never heard of that, huge John Mills-Cockell fan here
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 19 April 2024 23:58 (five days ago) link
RAG I think you'll enjoy "Criminal Record".
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 20 April 2024 09:58 (four days ago) link
And Gong, though nothing was ever released officially (there might be live boots).― nickn
― nickn
there are boots... he also played for national health! the thing is he did have a very distinctive style, i kinda understand why fripp came and and was like "ok you can be in the band again but NO CYMBALS got it?"
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 April 2024 14:53 (four days ago) link
When I ask myself,“how much yes is too much yes?” I see that boxed set and think “that’s too much yes.”
― calstars, Saturday, 20 April 2024 18:46 (four days ago) link
When it first came out I remember joking that since they'd already done Yessongs and Yesshows, this one should just be called Yessss.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 20 April 2024 18:50 (four days ago) link
haha
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 April 2024 19:19 (four days ago) link
The hate for Tormato completely baffles me
it sounds like it was mastered on a coffee filter
I think the problems with it (aside from jon anderson's kid yammering about circuses) are almost all sonic and not related to the quality of the songs themselves. there was some mess up regarding dolby and I think that really impacted it. apparently the multis are missing so without some kind of 'get back' attempt at demixing it that's not going to ever be fixed (and no one is going to put that money forward for this album) unless they show up
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 20 April 2024 23:30 (four days ago) link
never knew that! thx
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 April 2024 23:50 (four days ago) link
I have sometimes wondered why I think GFTO and Yesshows both rule but I never clicked with Tormato, this may explain it
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 April 2024 23:51 (four days ago) link
and I can also understand why someone loves it b/c of the weird sound
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 April 2024 23:52 (four days ago) link
"records that are accidentally sui generis, for better or worse" RFD
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 April 2024 23:53 (four days ago) link
Haven’t heard this tomato version that is lately spoken of
― calstars, Sunday, 21 April 2024 00:03 (three days ago) link
And I probably won’t, there’s been too much “yes” irl recently
― calstars, Sunday, 21 April 2024 00:18 (three days ago) link
I've only ever had the remaster and I never really noticed a problem with its sound.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 21 April 2024 00:46 (three days ago) link
When I ask myself,“how much yes is too much yes?”I see that boxed set and think“that’s too much yes.”
But if you love YES this boxset is not nearly enough. Seriously, though, it's a great listen.
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 21 April 2024 13:05 (three days ago) link
goldilocks option: thus entire box set except cut out all the wakeman solo spots = JUST RIGHT
― mark s, Sunday, 21 April 2024 13:09 (three days ago) link
the dolby issue: according to brian kehew (an actual genius) eddie offord recorded the original tormato sessions in dolby-A, they fired him and overdubbed the rest not in dolby-A cuz they are dumb. when brian went the tapes later on he knew eddie liked to record in dolby A and went to playback the tapes and they sounded WAY BETTER except for the over dubs which still sounded like shit. so there's no saving the sessions.
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:53 (two days ago) link
huh, maybe that explains it, I always thought Tormato sounded weird but could never articulate why. I knew Wakeman's Birotron had something to do with it (is this the only album that actually uses it?) but like what I got a vinyl copy and played it on a good system I remember thinking I needed a new stylus because something was just off about it. it's got such a narrow soundstage, everything is kind of in a line...when Wakeman is playing you can't really hear anything else, ditto for a lot of Anderson's vocals, while Howe and White just kinda languish in the background surrounded by pillows. I can't really remember a single Howe guitar line on the album, outside of the more straightforward rock n' roll ones.
but also the songs aren't quite as good as they were, I mean yeah it's kinda interesting to hear them try disco and power pop but it's not really their strong suit, also they don't really have any of the cool jam sections that Yes excelled at. they come close sometimes but you can tell "no epics" was sort of their M.O. here. it does have some tracks I like though - the opening and closing track are both great, and I'll defend "Arriving UFO" just on the grounds that its really odd, I just wish they had the courage to get even weirder with it
― frogbs, Monday, 22 April 2024 17:28 (two days ago) link
there's a demo of the Birotron here, if you're interested. apparently Wakeman financed the development of it and there were only ever 2 working units.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URR7l-uI6JA
I recommend reading the description, its pretty insane:
Life is short. The Birotron is in danger of disappearing and both positive vibes and hard work are now required to save it. 'Trolls' harassing anyone, 'internet beggars' demanding free sounds, 'sound poachers/criminals' sampling this video to exploit it, and pushers of any political agendas will be:a) Permanently banned from this page / other related Birotron pages. b) Permanently blacklisted from buying, owning or using these sounds if and when they become available commercially. c) Prosecuted for any crimes or offenses committed in relation to the above. (This page is being monitored by a Private Investigation Agency 24/7) Protecting this instrument, and all of you visiting here deeply matters to us, especially when this is your only source for it.
I think it's cool people are trying to 'restore' the sound of the thing, but it kinda sounds shitty doesn't it? my understanding with the mellotron is the machine itself is pretty faulty and doesn't really reproduce the sound of the tapes well but it distorts it in a way that gives it this ethereal and mystical quality. that's a pretty tricky thing to reproduce. the Birotron just sounds cheap to me.
― frogbs, Monday, 22 April 2024 17:42 (two days ago) link
leon theremin meet robert moog meet dave biro (actual name)
― mark s, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:04 (two days ago) link
The version of "Days" on Tormato bonus tracks is really lovely, I prefer it to the version that ended up on Song Of Seven, it's just vocals and works really well
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:15 (two days ago) link
I could not take it oh so seriously reallyWhen you called and said you'd seen a UFO
- noted skeptic and debunker Jon Anderson
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:20 (two days ago) link
Don't know Borstlap but nice to have these collectionshttps://www.cherryred.co.uk/bruford-borstlap-sheer-reckless-abandon-3cd1dvd-editionhttps://www.cherryred.co.uk/patrick-moraz-bill-bruford-temples-of-joy-3cd-edition
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:24 (two days ago) link
https://shop.spotify.com/en/artist/7AC976RDJzL2asmZuz7qil/product/yes-incense
― calstars, Monday, 22 April 2024 22:46 (two days ago) link
Along with several other Ilxors, I was born during the brief period known as the Gerald Ford era, meaning that nearly all of my memories of that decade are of the "Long '70s" variety that ran through '83 (wood-panel basements and weird swirly lights as room decor, leaded gas, classic rock's last stand on MTV before the Prince/Lauper/MJ era, malls with massive plants near the Miller's Outpost, you get the idea). Tormato, especially "On The Silent Wings of Freedom" (which might be the most 'Yes' song title ever), makes me 'remember' the late-70s, as if they are teleporting me to an era where I get to experience borrowed nostalgia, whether I actually experienced it or not.
― Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 00:32 (yesterday) link
Joni Mitchell played the Birotron on one of her best late songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOfJ7S9f2LM
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 00:35 (yesterday) link
That's a misnomer - the actual credit on Night Ride Home is "Billatron", which is a keyboard sample of the guitarist Bill Dillon.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 01:00 (yesterday) link
The bonus tracks on Tormato show that they still had a lot of ideas, but no-one was capitulating to fit those ideas together. Anderson wants to get soft, Howe wants to get hard, Bootsy Squire's Mutron pedal whose sound doesn't fit in with what anyone else is doing, and Wakeman's assortment of shrill keyboards covering everything like a tinsel explosion. I like most of the record in spite of its flaws.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 01:07 (yesterday) link
Waksman’s baroque solo on the Birotron on Don’t Kill the Whale rules so hard.
― timellison, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:48 (three hours ago) link