What's to hate about Kid Rock?

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I hate him because of his aesthetic, and the particlar mess of values he embodies. That is to say, the following things put me off: sleaze, meanness, petty rage, spite, misogyny, crudeness, sex, smarm, arrogance. Yeah, basically I hate rock'n'roll. I haven't heard his new one as I stay away from everything the man does. Is it any different, apart from genre?

Sean M (Sean M), Monday, 15 December 2003 03:31 (twenty years ago) link

He's an idiot. What more needs be said?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:19 (twenty years ago) link

AC/DC are idiots too; does that make them automatically hateable?

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:20 (twenty years ago) link

AC/DC are not idiots.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:21 (twenty years ago) link

have you read their interviews?!

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:22 (twenty years ago) link

haha

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:22 (twenty years ago) link

Of course.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:22 (twenty years ago) link

I give up, then!

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

AC/DC may not be rocket scientists, but they're savvy enough to know how to stay in the game for a long stretch. Moreover, they're humble guys....unlike Kid Rock.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

?!

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

kid rock hasn't exactly dropped off the face of the earth yet alex, unless you have access to fiddo's crystal ball.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:24 (twenty years ago) link

Alright then...new terminology. Kid Rock is a DICK!. Defend that.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:24 (twenty years ago) link

OK, now I'M confused...

roger adultery, Monday, 15 December 2003 04:24 (twenty years ago) link

No he hasn't, but I doubt he'll have as long a run as AC/DC have enjoyed.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:24 (twenty years ago) link

haha - i remember an interview with angus circa 2 live crew trial where he decryed their music as 'crass' and the interviewer was all 'um, what about 'giving the dog a bone'?' and angus went all 'it's a metaphor innit' and how his mom thought it was actually about giving the dog a bone.

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

rock stars in being dicks shocker!

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

the question isn't whether they're savvy or humble, it's about whether they're rocket scientists. and you say yourself they're not. so OK then.

xpost

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

Meanwhile, AC/DC are still playing stadiums....and where are 2 Live Crew today?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

what does this have to do with being dicks and/or stupid?!

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

Jess, stop me if I'm wrong, but you don't seem to even like rock. What can you add here?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

alex can i ask you that the next time you pop into an r&b thread?

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

Alex in NYC on various R&B threads to thread!

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

xpost of the night!

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

My head hurts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

what does this have to do with being dicks and/or stupid?!

Nothing, but it means AC/DC's music has more staying power than 2 Live Crew's.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

alex you turned on a radio lately?

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:28 (twenty years ago) link

watch your metaphors, Alex

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:28 (twenty years ago) link

alex can i ask you that the next time you pop into an r&b thread?

Certainly. Well, I do like some pop. It's the exceptionally rare bit of r&b that I like...or at least more contemporary r&b.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:28 (twenty years ago) link

watch your metaphors, Alex

Knew someone was going to jump all over that.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty years ago) link

2 live crew are the rosetta stone of all hip-hop from 1996 onward.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty years ago) link

haha "all hip-hop"

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty years ago) link

whereas ac/dc influenced steve albini.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty years ago) link

alex you turned on a radio lately?

Are you suggesting that you've heard 2 Live Crew on the radio recently?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty years ago) link

Knew someone was going to jump all over that.

keep digging! (and Dan Perry to thread!)

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty years ago) link

correction: all good hip-hop

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:30 (twenty years ago) link

haha "all good hip-hop"

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:30 (twenty years ago) link

My comment wasn't a sweeping indictment of hip-hop. It was targeted solely at 2 live Crew (we are straying off topic here.)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:30 (twenty years ago) link

"haha"

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:30 (twenty years ago) link

FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY, MATOS

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:31 (twenty years ago) link

Anybody here prepared to defend Uncle Kracker?

ben welsh (benwelsh), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:31 (twenty years ago) link

i'm suggesting i've heard alot more music that wouldn't have happened without 2 live crew lately than i've music that wouldn't have happened without ac/dc (though i have heard 2 live crew on the radio lately also)

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:31 (twenty years ago) link

haha "straying"

haha "haha"

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:31 (twenty years ago) link

miccio vaguely defends uncle kracker when he puts down current kid rock

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:32 (twenty years ago) link

haha "the real enemy"

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:32 (twenty years ago) link

Luke Skyywalker, yesterday.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think 'being a dick' is the issue here at all, because i could see myself sharing a beer with Bob Ritchie, Angus Young, AND Luke Skywalker, no problemo. I think it'd be hard, however, to get through a round without punching Julian Casablancas, Ryan Adams, or Christian Aguilera in the fucking face.

roger adultery, Monday, 15 December 2003 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

i'm suggesting i've heard alot more music that wouldn't have happened without 2 live crew lately than i've music that wouldn't have happened without ac/dc (though i have heard 2 live crew on the radio lately also)


Do you really consider 2 Live Crew that influential? I don't claim to be a hip hop historian by any stretch, but that doesn't sound entirely credible to me. But hey....whatever mows your lawn. Kid Rock, meanwhile, is almost a bizarre hybrid of 2 Live Crew and AC/DC.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

I think Uncle Kracker needs to make a rekkid with Sugar Ray. It would blow up on VH1.

ben welsh (benwelsh), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:34 (twenty years ago) link

why does luke records' logo have a mcdonalds fryguy on it?

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:34 (twenty years ago) link

alex ts: lil jon vs. the darkness

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:34 (twenty years ago) link

Amen, Bob. She should be a real American like you, growing up on a six acre estate complete with tennis court and horse paddock, and then bravely adopting a faux “redneck shitkicker” cosplay persona. God bless you, buddy ruff. https://t.co/OLlL430TnN

— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) August 9, 2019

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 10 August 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link

Twitter’s blowin’ up b/c Kacey Musgraves apparently “liked” Kid Rock’s tweet, then “unliked” it afterwards (but not before screenshots were taken).

I generally assume a slip of the thumb in those cases (it’s happened to me once or twice), but who knowz (or, yes, carez)

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Saturday, 10 August 2019 04:58 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

Country rocker and rapper Kid Rock was caught on video lashing out at Oprah Winfrey in a vulgar rant while on stage at his Big Ass Honky Tonk Rock N' Roll Steakhouse in Nashville, Tennesee, NBC News reports.

"I’m like, Oprah Winfrey or Joy Behar, they can suck d--- sideways," Rock said, according to the video published on TMZ Friday.

“F--- Oprah Winfrey and f--- Kathie Lee Gifford,” he continued saying as someone in the audience described him as a "blackout drunk.” Rock continuously repeated the same phrases throughout his rant against Winfrey and other women who have hosted talk shows until he suddenly believed he would be accused of being racist based on his on stage remarks.

“To those who would say, “‘Well, I’m pretty sure Kid Rock’s a racist,”” he said, “I’m, like, ‘Fine. F--- off,’ sideways.”
After his outburst against Winfrey, "The View" co-host Joy Behar and TV presenter Kathie Lee Gifford, Rock was reluctantly escorted offstage by the venue's security team.

omar little, Sunday, 1 December 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

welp, I'm not gonna pretend "fuck off sideways" isn't a great turn of phrase just because it came out of Kid Rock's mouth

deepchord presents echosmith (unregistered), Sunday, 1 December 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

he just stumbled he says suck my dick sideways a few times then he just flubbed it

whole video is pathetic

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 December 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

I'm going to take a guess that Kid R. has issues with his mom.

earlnash, Sunday, 1 December 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

fuck off, Sideways

Tom Violence (Extended Club Mix) (Tom Violence), Sunday, 1 December 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

ha!

alomar lines, Sunday, 1 December 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link

What a douche

calstars, Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

while on stage at his Big Ass Honky Tonk Rock N' Roll Steakhouse in Nashville, Tennesee

this alone is reason enough to hate him

💠 (crüt), Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

Wow can’t believe he would put kathie Lee AND joy behar on blast like that... a true American badass

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

this...isnt terrible?

majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Sunday, 29 March 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link

you couldn't pay me to click that

These fuckin speechmarks are all over the shop:

“To those who would say, “‘Well, I’m pretty sure Kid Rock’s a racist,”” he said, “I’m, like, ‘Fine. F--- off,’ sideways.”

"I'll turn sideways, and I'll be like..."

sbahnhof, Thursday, 2 April 2020 06:18 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Kid Rock is BACK and he’s got some things to get off his chest pic.twitter.com/kKsMTkfnWq

— Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) November 19, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm0Vmt-QIDc

frogbs, Sunday, 21 November 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

Shouldn't have CGId the fire.

hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Sunday, 21 November 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

was hoping this bump meant he was dead

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 November 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

Hey snowflake

calstars, Sunday, 21 November 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

Fresh take with those participation trophy bars!

Wouldn’t mind this if it were in a language I didn’t know.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 21 November 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

barstool and kid rock, a match made in hell

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 November 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

if him and Portnoy could be on the same doomed monorail

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 November 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link

barstool and kid rock, a match made in hell

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, November 21, 2021 1:10 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

well they're both stool

Evan, Sunday, 21 November 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

Everything.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 22 November 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link

smithers, have the beastie boys killed

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 22 November 2021 01:39 (two years ago) link

Is the Ira Kaplan credited as the writer on this ancient Kid Rock song THE Ira Kaplan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXINj9qoHwE

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 22 November 2021 10:18 (two years ago) link

the album version ends with a 19-minute noise guitar freakout

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 22 November 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link

some years ago I was listening to New Kingdom when a friend stopped by. He said, "what is this? it sounds like Kid Rock" 😬 i'll never forget that.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:09 (two years ago) link

Haha, Al rarely gets snarky so it's cute when he does.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 00:14 (two years ago) link

surprised there's no "Let's Go Brandon" on this, possibly because Kid Rock didn't understand the reference

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 05:00 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

Ok, so this song apparently came out a couple months ago, but does include some "let's go brandons," frogbs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyFnLqJx-uU

I feel like he's actually gearing up for a run this time.

peace, man, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 16:10 (two years ago) link

I would love to have dinner with Kid Rock

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 16:41 (two years ago) link

does include some "let's go brandons,"

Just a few.

Imagine making an entire song screaming at Joe Biden because he initiated testing, tracing and quarantine at borders, thereby successfully saving a minimum of half a million lives and sustaining the economy of the US.

beepy fridges (sic), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 18:05 (two years ago) link

ok I know I see On Cinema references in everything but COME ON!!! ITS EXACTLY THE SAME!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm0Vmt-QIDc

frogbs, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link

I still get “ain’t noooobody gonna tell me how to liiiiiive” popping into my thoughts

mh, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link

like I swear it even uses the same stock transitions

frogbs, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link

Wow his voice/delivery is awful compared to 20 yrs ago (ie the last time I heard him)

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link

he is not a beastie boy but he is better that enema m!

xzanfar, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 20:38 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

There's on-brand and then there's this

#ScoopNashville — Kid Rock’s Bar scores 69 on health department inspection https://t.co/kmQ4OtHQ4f pic.twitter.com/hy8Hyy0chC

— Scoop: Nashville (@scoopnash) July 27, 2023

(his restaurant scored a 69 on its health inspection)

were there reports of him hootin and hollerin while people were trying to tell him his restaurant was shutting down

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 27 July 2023 06:20 (eight months ago) link

(his restaurant scored a 69 on its health inspection)

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra)

nice

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 27 July 2023 14:58 (eight months ago) link


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