Momus

I should have been here earlier. Damn that London Transport.

And, I'll side with Ally about that "going above 14th street" business. Personally, I like the smallness and snuggliness of lower Manhattan, but the people could mostly catch on fire and I wouldn't be too upset. Of course, NYC, in general, is full of pose/eurs, so it's easy enough to ignore them anywhere. But, some of the nicest parts of the city, restaurants and getaways, can be found in those big, scary numbers, too. It's also not as filthy, which is nice, too.

Anthony, if you want to live someplace better than the boonies why not just do so? MOmus tells us what he is doing in life becasue unlike most ego-strangled "music geniuses" he wants to share his life with his fans, albiet electronically. I mean realy, someone give s you such valuable insights, music and references, and you thank him with hostility? DO you really crave his love, as a father figure or something? I say, have admired cohorts, but worship no man. Just listen to his songs and enjoy his cool website .

http://www.screamadelica.co.uk/justlikehoney.htm

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Studio/8890/

well i thrashed lauren laverne at pool intha egypt one drizzly sunday night, she looked aghast.

this talksoftheadphone sh'ite iz well 3key, your words come out sounding like a demonic-deanna-durbin

cheers to tha wrongfooted googliers - fishin' moi ?

I stopped enjoying Momus LPs a while ago, but that's my personal taste. How can he be anything but a good thing? I shouldn't say any more, because almost every time I ever met him I was extremely drunk and probably antagonistic or, at best, a bore. Also, I'm terribly jealous of anyone whose life corresponds even remotely with what they'd like their life to be, which isn't normally a problem in these sorts of places.

I don't think I ever properly answered the main question this thread posed -- seems to me he's just talking about things as they happen, and he has the chance to go to a lot of spots I don't have the chance to and reflect on the results. It makes for a good experience. And I was listening to him for moons before starting to chat with him every so often, and now he's here. Way cool, mang.

I think I was totally foolish to hero-worship Momus the way I did. But then the same applies to a lot of people I've looked up to. I work hard and concentrate on the work these days, not like back then.

: - )

I used to have sex to Momus.

Just popped in my head that insult and had to use it!

answer: no.

: - )

I like being insulted as well (is that a hint??? weell...no.....maybe....)

Ummm...believe it was "tender pervert" "the angels are voyeur"...on cassette, nonetheeless!!!!!!

Not cassingle but CASSETTE. Purchased in a help the aged. Sounded like if Felt had written porn for seniors.

This week's NME has half a page of phone sex adverts. Real ones. Is that what you meant, Nick? One of them says "MANDY - 30 SECS 'TIL U SMILE." Presumably a Labour campaign line for the Hartlepool area?

Oh, everyone's gone.

Yours, a sophisticated dandy warhol.

Ahem. The phone sex stuff the lowest ebb in the NME yet, surely?

He can’t even gossip.

Momus knows Japanese. he's written lyrics in Japanese and has sung in Japanese. plus i've seen him practice with my own eyes. he was practicing when i was on tour with him in 2002. i was in a chiptune band of his creation called Super Madrigal Bros. it was the American Patchwork tour and we drove all over America playing shows with 2-3 other acts. he was dating a Japanese woman (also his tour manager) at the time and she was helping him with his kanji. it was the first time either of them had been to the US outside of New York or LA, and they were amazed by all the land and space. whenever we passed a farm with cows she would point out the window saying "Nick! Nick!" i have great memories of that tour, it was a lot of fun and brilliant music, and our hosts were very kind Tour Mom & Dad.

i wonder what he's up to these days. i see him on youtube he has a series of videos continuing his old blogging style about art and culture and stuff. this is good news on the new compilation! i've only heard one of those albums but it was a very cool, moody, weird folk record. hope he is well and happy.

i remember seeing you guys play in austin. and momus complaining on his blog about texas being "huge, hot and empty".

woah. that was at Emo's. did they have a drop down movie screen that projected old cartoon before the bands played? i feel like that might have been at that show...

that's not something i remember ever seeing at emo's.

Adam! Had no idea you were a Super Madrigal Bro! (Apologies for the brand new unfamiliar dn I've been mostly lurking for the past decade though I do post now and again when I work up the gumption)

Anyways I made a new account mostly just to tell you that I'm a great fan, and that I desperately tried to see both you and Momus on that tour you mentioned when it came thru Portland, even went so far as to enlist the prettiest girl I knew to try and beg the doorman to let us in but we weren't anywhere near old enough to be there and he wasn't having it, oh well.

Anyways would love to hear anymore memories you have of that tour, or being on AmPatch (you say the band was of his creation?)

cool nice to meet you Florin! im curious how you heard about us. i know they did flyers and ads in the local alt weeklys every where we went.

it was probably the greatest summer of my life. travelling around the US playing a show just about every night every day for a month. Momus had been doing this a long time so he was an old pro by this time, and a lot of places we had stayed were friends of his from previous tours, other artists, musicians, etc. it was mostly sleeping on the floor of a punk house type situation, which is one i have always been fine with. towards the end of the tour we splurged on a few hotel rooms. lol i think we all snuck into two rooms, this eccentric Scottish guy w an eyepatch, his Japanese business manager, and 8 or so freaky teenage art schoolers. on that tour it was Momus, the Gongs, Phillip, and the Supermads:, me and John Fashion Flesh. Fashion Flesh just released an LP by the way (https://www.discogs.com/Fashion-Flesh-Withdrawn/release/10946402) it is amazing kind of in the vein of Severed Heads or Throbbing Gristle, early industrial/synth-pop, instrumental, minimalist, w trippy glitchy stuff and home made synths. amazing stuff!

https://i.imgur.com/2TiUwyTl.jpg
hanging out on a breezy porch one morning after a show

the band itself and the album name was Momus's idea. i was doing chiptune music (this was 1998/1999) and had recorded an album of Christmas music. my main idea was to get this CD to Bjork cos i thought for some reason she would love it or something. i sent it in to Momus (i had previously sent a few other things in) and he wrote me back an email a few months later basically saying "Here's this idea for a band, you would work with this other guy who lives in another state, we need an album by x so we can do a summer tour with my whole label." i was 21, had just dropped out of college, and was living in a 2 bedroom room punk rock apartment with 5 other people and 3 dogs. i was like fuck yes, i'm going to do this, goodbye to my dogshit apartment. i went to the library to use the internet to look for MIDI files and would find songs to do, then do them in Fruity Loops. unfortunately i did not use samples from actual consoles, i was using emulators to isolate channels and make samples from that. NESticle was one emulator I used the most to get samples. i had a lot of tricks i used all the time, like the Gameboy startup sound for bass (this is something Momus used in his song "Walter Carlos" so I ripped it off him) and having it do an octave leap rather than having a break or stopping the note, this gave the songs little glitchy blips at the end of the lines (around this time i was introduced to Roxy Music and the octave leaps in "Virginia Plain" were a big influence). after arranging a song and saving a .WAV i would burn a CDr and mail it to John, who would remix the tracks in his own unique way (often with custom gear, twisting my clockwork creations, like your body stepping outside of yourself and now seeing things in the Astral World. it was like a shadow album living alongside the regular one), and mail another disc back to me. we had them back and forth on the albums and i think it's the best way to get both versions of the material. i think he had gotten a little bit of a budget for 2 records and a tour and it was a really wonderful experience and i will be forever grateful for the invitation. to be able to perform w so many amazing artists and musicians was incredible.

i've always been a huge fan of Momus (imo some of his best work is for real Bowie-level talented but just not as lucky or commercially palatable) and the Gongs and Phiiliip. Phiiliip has done some really cool stuff since then, an album called "Divided by Lightning" that had an accompanying art show and accompanying music video DVD (i love the song that mixes in Boyz II Men's "It's So Hard to Say Goodbye..." over a trance beat and footage of NY club kids in the 80s). i wrote to him on Facebook years ago and he was taking a sound class with one of the guys in Animal Collective and he was learning how to mix properly and stuff. his music started getting less lofi but still very psychedelic, very much like if Beck hadn't decided to start sucking and went back to what he was doing in the early 90s but with Ableton. i heard he had fallen ill and had to move in with his family but that was a while ago, so i'm not sure what's up with him now. i did find a soundcloud page of his recently (Wirekid) that had all these really intense, really crazy and amazing remixes that were like live mashups with new lyrics, melodies, and raps. like he had Buddy Holly's "Everyday" glockenspeil going over a death metal blast beat. or the "Goonies R Good Enough" synth arpeggio over skittering drum n bass. but they are all original songs??? it's really amazing stuff, some of the most unique music i have ever heard in my life. there is one song he did recently that was "Sparkle Off the Clock" and i think it was a take on Justin Beiber (not sure) but it had a really catchy melody and the arrangement was a really nice, crunchy 8-bit thing, complete w video game noises, and at one point he starts mixing in Mr. Miyagi and he's taking about catching the fly and making these swish sounds. yeah this shit is dope.

anyways for the "Shakestation" record Momus really gave us full freedom to do whatever. he didn't tell us how long to make the album or how many songs or what songs to do or anything. he had an artist who would do the cover, Florian Perret, who did an amazing black and white drawings. personally i wanted something colorful and videogamey and pixelly but i respected the collaborative spirit of the whole thing. tbh i think the "Shakestation" cover would look nice on an LP jacket, the CD is just too small to show those details. anyway i had no idea what a madrigal was so i just started slapping sounds together. i wanted to do via video games and medieval music what Esquivel or The Three Suns had done for jazz and exotica, with weird arrangements, stereo effects, basically kitchy electronic Perry-Kingsley style stuff etc. inspired by the Moog Cookbook and A Clockwork Orange (lol i was listening to this soundtrack yesterday, Wendy Carlos is God). the second album has a whole romantic section where we do more modern stuff like the Carmen opera and the whole direction got more baroque in general. i remember Momus not really being happy about that, lol, us time-jumping like that, and maybe we really should have stuck with the medieval smaller scale stuff. half of the second album is still pretty medieval though. it's funny, since then i have read many books on medieval history and have found it to be something i am really very interested in. at the time i was just trawling through MIDI websites for songs to try to cover i didn't really care about the history. well i think if we ever re-visit it (and we have talked from time to time, u never know) then i will take it more seriously and probably incorporate more of a historical concept to the work.

the tour... wow! Portland was cool, i wish you could have made it! i remember we went to a punk house that had little to no furniture in it. by that time i think we had met up with Rroland, who was really cool. he had written all these songs using only a Roland synth. he was Nick's age, in his 40s, which was cool and kind of funny. there were all of us electronic noise kids and then this middle aged father who owned a vineyard and produced his own wine! and yet that music he made was transformative, you really felt like you were listening through his past lives. he was only with us for a few days out west. i remember that drive up and down the west coast so well, it was so beautiful, it felt like we were at the edge of the world, on the edge of paradise. this was the first time i ever heard Klaus Nomi, and i remember driving along the west coast highways listening to "Rubberband Lazer" and just kind of being dazzled by it all (probably on shrooms!).

https://i.imgur.com/eYgFxfel.jpg
here is a photo of me with Cythia Plaster Caster, 2002

the tour was a lot of fun, it was the experience of a lifetime. mostly i really loved the other musicians we were touring with, like we were listening to each other's CDs in the car on the road between shows. i have some great memories of hazy parties, memories of driving across states as the sun rises, etc. the kind of memories you get when you go on road trips with friends. the coolest person i met was Cynthia Plaster Caster who was at our show in Chicago. she had casted Momus and he was in a recent documentary about her. she was a total sweety and just she gave me a big hug and called me a sweetie like the coolest rock n roll aunt ever. i also met Mumbleboy at our NYC kickoff show, but i was so nervous about playing for the first few days, i don't remember what i said. i met Beck's brother at Spaceland and Beck was going to come to the show but didn't and this was a big letdown personally cos i am obsessed with Beck but it was cool cos Phillip had this mix CD with all the Midnight Vultures outtakes and i had never heard that stuff before. still blows my mind. i remember at the second to last show in my hometown of Atlanta the people at the club got real aggressive (i don't remember why, an unpaid bill or something? it seemed unreasonable) and they threw us out, calling us "F*****s", yelling "Get the fuck out of here!" and i felt real embarrassed cos i lived there lol. after the show we stayed with some friends in Dunwoody including Jack Hines of the Black Lips who thought Momus was hilarious and who drove us the next day to the final show in SC. heh after living in 2 cramped cars with 7 other people for a month, it was nice to get into a new car, so i remember how luxurious it felt to be able to spread out and like stick my feet out the window!

i remember going home and bringing a check - we had made a couple hundred dollars which is really impressive now that I've seen a few tours. i was still living with my parents out in the country at this point, so i got home and was completely fried and feeling isolated and getting really depressed and cabin feverish. it was almost like having jetlag or something. it made me want to move to the city, which i ended up doing just a few months later. i've lived here for the past 15 years this winter.

Thanks so much for sharing, that was awesome to read. I was at the Lawrence Kansas show and remember really enjoying it.

He's been videos for new stuff every couple of days on youtube. Residents meets ISB vibe in most of it so far. Anyone listening?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHLymyfTAhw

I have. This is my fave from the new album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5o8VAmEQnM

One of the best opening posts in site history

Is it the one by Anthony? /zing

*Loads, scrolls, nods*

The first three posts are all great.

Between this and the Miles thread today has been Ye Olde ILX0r Wayback Wednesday.

I wish anthony still posted. There is a lot of overlap between his interests and mine, it seems

I’m a fan of momus but if he knew me he’d think i was a rube for sure you know so, preemptively, fuck you momus

Anthony helped me edit down my mom's obituary so it could fit within the required parameters to be published in the local newspaper. I'll never forget that bit of kindness extended to me.

Just like I won't forget how I used to listen to Momus's podcast episodes (back when he hosted them on his website -- I found his voice soothing, even if I disagreed with his content) and in one of them he rhapsodized about one of my top 100 favorite songs of all time (and the namesake to what was my vehicle at the time), David Sylvian's "Orpheus". Any man who loves DS can't be all that bad.

60 today!

doompatrol doing robust half-bright sock-work on the thread, i wonder how he is these days

60?!?!?

Good for him. I check in on his tumblr every once in a while and he seems to be doing well and still living by his own rules.

‘Flame Into Being’ is one of the forgotten great songs of the 80s.

I was just listening to Stars Forever today. I think it's my favorite album of his. His old ironic-misogyny stuff really grates, but some of the songs on Stars Forever have the kind of heart I wish he'd put into his poetry more often.

Yeah he has a kind of nabokovian disdain for anything sentimental. This attitude seems to be declining—probably for the worse. It’s good to have some mandarins around.

For those not in the habit of visiting the *BBC Scotland website, he's working on a Covid-LP.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52270653

(*I'm not either, someone posted the link on Facebook).

"At that moment, I was very scared. I really thought - this is it - and started anticipating all the RIP Momus messages people would be posting."

... on ILX. They missed that bit out.

^ Ha! I liked "The Hairstyle of the Devil reached number 94 in the singles chart in 1989."

too high

... on ILX. They missed that bit out.

my man with the hustle

“My Corona” lol

So there is a book about Momus coming out from Zero Books. I’m reading the blog it’s based on, fifteenpeople.com, and revisiting some of those albums.

Timelord is a great record. Not as snotty and arch, filled with longing and despair, so more my speed than his other records. I like how he draws out the main theme of most sci fi— the fact that so much of our technology is motivated by a desire to overcome time and death. The kind of thing that sounds trite in a messageboard post but the buried longing does come out on songs like Enlightenment, which also deals with more contemporary concerns

of course it's fucking zer0

cancel culture can't go far enough

I’m discovering some personal stuff about him in the blog that isn’t so cool also.

Not trying to avoid that reality. I feel like momus is cancelled here already so discussing the music should be ok

Ah. Just came here to wonder how the book was?

I'm unable to watch his series of Open University videos because he has this possibly unconscious click in his speech which really triggers my misophonia.

Did anyone read the book?

I wrote it, if that helps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3KwmdOYPvk