2001: A Space Odyssey

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OK, I figured.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

on the other hand, monkeys...

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link


and if only Morricone had scored it and Steve McQueen played Bowman.

btw, David Bowie, your new handle suits you, with the IQ and all.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't seen very many movies from the '60s. I voted for Planet of the Apes (monkeys!), Lawrence of Arabia, MASH, The Graduate, North By Northwest, Goldfinger, Easy Rider, and Cool Hand Luke.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

and if only Morricone had scored it and Steve McQueen played Bowman.
That would have been good, yes.

Paul Newman could have voiced HAL, too.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

So more like 2010, then.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I was thinking Enemy Mine.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

also, this Kubrick guy is so obviously unfamiliar with teh laws of robotics, wtf

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm encouraged that when I last saw it (December 2001) the audience laughed at the Dr Floyd briefing-room and space station dialogue, getting the satire. Many clueless critics in '68 complained about the curiously dull bureaucratese.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

also, who are these people? I mean, what else have you seen Keir Dullea in?!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.sensesofcinema.com/images/top/2001_ape.jpg

if you're gonna be a monkey, be a gorilla

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Dullea:

Bunny Lake Is Missing
David and Lisa

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Black Christmas! He was terrible in that.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Dullea is kind of appropriate, don't you think?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link


What do you expect from an *astronaut*? They're all military lunkheads who idolize George Lazenby.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

William Sylvester turned up in MST3K-worthy fare a few times, in Devil Doll and in some TV movie.

monkeybutler, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

this used to be my favourite movie. i still kinda love it.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

s1ocki, gimme a hug.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Gus: [gruff gus mode] Say, Hot Dog; what the hell does "astronaut" mean, anyway?
Gordo: [thinks for a moment] Star Voyager
Gus: "Star Voyager Gus Grissom"; I kinda like the sound of that.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: the monkeys in 2001 vs the monkeys in Aguirre

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i LOVE the right stuff too.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

This is one of my favorite things right now.

Lemmy Caution (sleep), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

a few other military lunkheads

Russell Schweickart, BS and MS from MIT who did research in the Experimental Astronomy Lab there

Buzz Aldrin, an MIT PhD in Astronautics

Frank Borman, a Cal Tech MS in Aeronautical Engineering, and graduate of Harvard B School's Advanced Management Program

Story Musgrave, MBA (UCLA) and MD (Columbia) and member of the New York Academy of Sciences who has studied at an advanced level math, computer science, chemistry and neurophysiology

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

David and Lisa is awful, awful.

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Anybody else play "Buzz Aldrin's Race Into Space" for PC? As a budding aerospace engineering student, it was my fave game for a long time(along with Wing Commander II and X-Wing).

Unfortunately, most NASA gigs in places I'd never live(central florida, houston, los angeles, cali desert, sunnyvale, etc).

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I-erny, gabb; just batting down the idea of some exciting Studio fruitcake in Dullea's place. And if Clarke and Kubrick had made Bowman like Pete Conrad, it woulda kinda derailed the Ligeti and Strauss mood. (Boy Morbius had an Apollo scrapbook.)

Have, somewhere, a battered paperback called The Making of 2001 with lots of fascinating production details (I think it's stayed in print).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

2001 in 70mm @ the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood (before they ruined it) was the best thing ever.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

It was my #2 in the poll. Strangelove was my #1.

Keith C (lync0), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

incredible

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/kubrick-2001.jpg

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

when i was still a student, we had some nasa-employed alumni come in and give a little talk about long-distance space travel(how you get to mars w/o going nuts, etc). some of them sat down one day to watch the footage of that spinning sequence, and figured out that it'd work fine, except that they were off. Either the carousel would have to be 2-3 times wider, or spin 2-3 times faster.

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw it as a pup at the NYC Ziegfeld on the first major re-release in '74; the first film with a narrative I had to struggle with. And I knew nothing about the primordial stuff going in, so you can imagine, wtf.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

still one of my favourite films of all time. the beaurocratic banter totally makes it. "i'm afraid i'm not at liberty to discuss it" - love that.

once saw a back-to-back screening of 2001/2010. i am probably one of the rare few who thought 2010 wasn't so bad... hell, i even read that damn 2061 book. is clarke still alive?

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

the birthday party for poole

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

SEE YOU NEXT WEDNESDAY

john landis really ran with that...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a running birthday motif -- Floyd's [played by Kubrick's] daughter, Poole, HAL's (recalled as he dies) and Bowman/Star Child's.

2010 wasn't hideous, but it inevitably literalized everything. Tragic mundanity.

I didn't recall Clarke's status, but he just got honored in Sri Lanka (his adopted land).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post

is clarke still alive?

very much so! and living in shri lanka.

i love 2001.

latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Floyd's [played by Kubrick's] daughter, Poole

I wonder if she ever got her bush baby.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

What's Dullea's other movie? About a hostile youth in a group home?

andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The Hoodlum Priest? And he's in the currently filming CIA film directed by de Niro:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0001158/

xpost

And "The Dawn of Man" birthday ... which covers both the man-apes and the moon excavation.

HAL was originally voiced by Bronx-accented Psycho detective Martin Balsam. I do a decent impression of HAL's rendition of "Daisy."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

What I hear when I receive e-mail.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Part of my ex-roomie's email is "ae35" (falsely malfunctioning unit on Discovery).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I just think 2001 is boring. The only Kubrick I can get into is War Kubrick. The rest (that I've seen) comes across as masturbatory rubbish. I AM STANLEY KUBRICK I AM SO FREAKING YOU OUT RIGHT NOW LOL. That's what I hear, in my head, during that stupid slow-motion blood spilling out of the walls shot in Shining. Or the space baby thing with the fanfare. Give it a rest, beardo.

Full Metal Jacket
Dr. Strangelove
Spartacus
Paths of Glory

I like all of these! I really do! And except for FMJ I liked all of them BEFORE I ever had any intention of joining the cast of MASH so there!

BTW Joshua could whup HAL's ass.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

hands up whoever has used hal-9000 audio themes on their PCs. *raises hand*
hearing "just a moment..." is so much better than the stupid default windows exclamation. or the critical stop sound of "i'm sorry dave, i'm afraid i can't do that" (extra good if your name happens to be dave)

did you like Barry Lyndon, TOMBOT? it's got war in it.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Tombot (pls don't crack my ribs), did you see 2001 in a theater ever? Cuz it really is different, and not just in a widesceen outer-space way.

Man, Spartacus is fine as Decadent Hollywood Rome spectacles go, but i can't take that slaves-frolic-with-the-lambs shit.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Judging from the film ballots, you've all seen it on small black-and-white TVs.

And haven't seen La Jetée at all. But que sera, et al.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw 2001 on a re-release on the old big screen at Unit Four in Wallasey (before they split it into two, maybe three screens) when I was 11 in the summer of 1979. Magical.

Isn't it the case that Sarah Cracknell was screentested for the Starchild? (Her dad was 1st AD.) Stanley decided to go with a fake.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, God knows what lengths Stan woulda gone to make infant Sarah Cracknell suggest Keir Dullea...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I have not seen Barry Lyndon.
I have not seen 2001 in the theater.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

john landis really ran with that...

Not the only thing that he ran into the ground...

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not THAT into Kubrick.

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone has now removed it

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

“Someone”

calstars, Sunday, 29 November 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

?

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

Whichever federal agency manages that land sure as shit needed to remove it, especially after those helicopter cowboys showed up on that youtube that forks linked, above.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

The agency says they didn’t. Maybe they’re lying, but they’re the ones who announced its existence to the public in the first place.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

Simplest explanation is that the aforementioned cowboys, or others like them, made off with it.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

good riddance

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

this was cool as an idea but the internet kinda ruins everything.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

Simplest explanation is that the aforementioned space cowboys, or others like them, made off with it.

calstars, Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

The fuck’s your problem?

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

huh?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 November 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

Space cowboys? More like some JOKERS.

pplains, Monday, 30 November 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link

Oh, I get it. Apologies I flew off the handle, should have read more carefully.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link

gangsters of love iirc

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 November 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link

of what do you speak?

huge rant (sic), Monday, 30 November 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link

The pompatus of love?

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 November 2020 05:44 (three years ago) link

or perhaps Maurice

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 November 2020 06:50 (three years ago) link

A (shoddy-looking) copycat effort has surfaced in Romania.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

Angry mob of locals

https://boingboing.net/2020/11/30/utah-monolith-was-removed-and-broken-down-by-annoyed-locals.html

Alba, Monday, 30 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

(After trying so smash it with bone, obv)

Alba, Monday, 30 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

it was probably an alien disc that had many cures for many diseases n we DISTROYED IT?

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 November 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link

"This is why you don't leave trash in the desert" and "Leave no trace" otm

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

Maybe they really loved some peaches?

pplains, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Can anyone identify this painting from the beyond the infinite hotel room?

https://ro.nu/2001/d.html

ledge, Friday, 25 November 2022 11:29 (one year ago) link

https://ro.nu/2001/d1.png

ledge, Friday, 25 November 2022 11:29 (one year ago) link

and this one:

https://ro.nu/2001/c1.png

ledge, Friday, 25 November 2022 11:31 (one year ago) link

Oh, I'm sure I've seen something or read about these, let me look through my books.

I seem to recall that they were recycled (Barry L possibly) but I could be wrong.

MaresNest, Friday, 25 November 2022 11:51 (one year ago) link

yes that's definitely the same one in 'the man who knew too much', not that that makes it easier to identify! the fact that two of the paintings have been identified suggests that, even if they were painted for the studio, they were copies of genuine works rather than complete pastiches.

ledge, Friday, 25 November 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link

feel like he missed a trick here: itt: paintings that are plot-points in movies and TV that are terrible paintings (or excellent ones if there are any)

mark s, Friday, 25 November 2022 12:11 (one year ago) link

https://live.staticflickr.com/4480/24097904808_9ab1284082_b.jpg

mark s, Friday, 25 November 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link

Assumed the revive was for 2001 winning the Sight and Sound poll.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 25 November 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link

Tangentially related — Idyllopus Press’s cluster of analyses around the painting in Lolita are, as usual for that site, an absolute tour de force. (I read the middle one recently)

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

My first thought on hearing that one painting is in both 2001 and The Man Who Knew Too Much isn't to theorize on shared themes or elaborate callbacks. I think it means they used the same prop house.

Hideous Lump, Friday, 25 November 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

ah but clearly Kubrick chose to work with this film studio so as to gain access to that prop house and therefore...

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

To me the beauty of these deep, intertextual analyses isn’t to get hung up on what % of the stuff is actually “intentional”; but to enjoy the connections being made and themes/observations being drawn out.

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

(When I read the Idyllopus write-up on EWS, I thought maybe 70% of her observations were brilliant/mind-blowing, and 30% a wild stretch… for The Shining, I would maybe reverse those numbers, but still really enjoyed reading it.)

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

Wow, first I've heard of those series. They out to put them in print.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 25 November 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

She gets pretty "out there" – but the degree of cultural knowledge that she brings into play is incredible. I've also never seen anyone analyze a film so closely... and there's obviously a lot of grist for the mill there (as a basic example, I had never realized that Kubrick moves props around and stuff).

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

(I would also highlight this piece called The Problems with Discussing Stanley Kubrick's Lolita... it's somewhat of a departure from her usual format, in that it's a lengthy, somewhat personal rumination/essay on "problematic" art & artists – obv. a very familiar subject these days, but she goes places that were new to me, and I thought it was really good and thoughtful.)

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link

Another good "Supplemental" piece (sorry, my last post) is The Real Horror of The Shining: The Misogyny of the Audience for Wendy Torrance.

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link


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