ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS

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/me cover eyes, peers through fingers, unable to stop watching the slo-mo car crash

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

kid a will win all the telltale warning signs are there

― artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

is it gonna be florida all over again?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i hope its that close

― artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

funny how both the "ilm taste" and "critical hivemind" picks are really good records

― amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I will grant "Weak Become Heroes" and "Don't Mug Yourself" but otherwise there's a sparseness on _OPM_ that I find completely, totally, absolutely off-putting. Kick it in the nuts!

(xpost at this point I hope _Kid A_ wins because it is hands down a better album than _Discovery_, which is yet another example of ILM taking a decent album and elevating it to undeserved godhood)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it might be in Stevem's best interests to put Radiohead at #2 no matter who actually won.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

all great albums are decent albums elevated to undeserved godhood

― artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

This is true but some albums are more undeserving than others.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

some girls are bigger than others!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Kid A is interesting in theory, tedious in actuality. Some people would no doubt say exactly the same about Discovery. Some people will say it about BOTH!

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I think both albums are totally worthy of #1.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

It's kind of understandable that Kid A would do well in this list, as it really works as an album in the age of the track (although I am now bitterly regretting placing it at all). As Jess said over on the other thread, though - I can't understand the love for Radiohead tracks. Whereas with Discovery, I (shame) never listen to the whole album at all. I just play the singles over and over.

― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

i very very rarely listen to all of either album

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm guessing if stankonia had been nominated it've taken this thing

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think it works as an album, though (Kid A this is) - so often when I tried to listen to it I got lulled by the ambient one and then thought ah, fuck it, I want something pretty every time the harsher stuff came back in.

I can understand people respecting it but liking it? Eh. LOVING it? Double eh.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

not sure i ever made it through kid a straight through

― artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

wait. why wasn't it or "is this it" nominated?? did they come out in 1999? if not, that seems so odd. i don't understand this poll.

― amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

_Is This it_ wasn't nominated because _It Is Shit_.

(I SLAY ME)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't often make it to the end of Discovery either but that's cos I feel happy and delighted with the world by the end of Something About Us!

I do take Jamie's point though, I'm not an 'albums person' and maybe thats why I put Discovery as my #1.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

i hate to say it but not enough brits voted

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Kid A is interesting in theory, tedious in actuality. Some people would no doubt say exactly the same about Discovery. Some people will say it about BOTH!
I am some people.
Actually, "Discovery" isn't even interesting in theory, so never mind that.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Look, at Glastonbury 2003 I had to fucking stand for about an hour watching those tedious twats, having the most fucking miserable time of my life waiting to discover that all my friends were thinking exactly the same thing and that we could go somewhere else and actually enjoy ourselves. We did and it was great. How can the best fucking album of the decade come from the same band that put us through that? Jesus Christ, I hate Radiohead.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Alba smells like poo.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

_Is This it_ wasn't nominated because _It Is Shit_.
(I SLAY ME)

-- VengaDan Perry (djperr...), August 27th, 2004.

hahawhatever but anyway a lot of people here and everywhere like it a lot. so i'm surprised it wasn't even an option. as with "stankonia."

so no outkast albums in the top 100 then?

― amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

(I would not be so down on _Discovery_ if I didn't think that "Music Sounds Better Than You" encapsulates the vibe of the album in one song.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

(er, "Than" = "With" DAMN YOU ID)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

This is the beauty of the nomination process I think, it reminds me of when big teams don't qualify for the World Cup, it allows plucky minnows their chance to shine (step forward, uh, LCD Soundsystem)

xpost "Music Sounds Better Than You" is a great lost title for someone.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

no - everyone had a chance to nominate something and somehow noone got around to nominating any strokes or outkast albums. and the thing is i'm pretty sure both would've gotten the highest ranking of their genre.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

'Please Let Me Wonder' encapsulates the whole vibe of Pet Sounds in one song. Who cares?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

So is Interpol at no.9 the same as having something like Public enemy at no.9 in the all time top 10? A token indie rock record.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

rockist scientist why are you playing such a curmudgeon caricature on this thread? ease up.

Do you feel I'm usurping your persona?

― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Except that Kid A is gonna be 1 or 2, Julio.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't really think 'music sounds better with glue' encapsulates discovery at all, no guitar solo for one.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Alba, in this particular case, I do.

They released a fucking blinder of a tune under a different name, then went on to record multiple infeior versions of it and released it under the Daft Punk moniker and people went batshit insane over it and I never really understood why.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Kid A (musically speaking) is hardly token indie rock.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

("vibe" != "instrumentation" but anyway)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

x post

Er, this is embarrassing (in a persistent lurker defends Radiohead even though I didn't vote for it that high, honest kind of way) but...

The album itself takes you on the ol' personal>political journey that Tommy took. Quietude and withdrawal from the world ('I'm not here') to a kind of wake up call ('This is really happening'). The ambient one sits bang in the middle while they think about it all. Kind of symmetry to it all. (The National Anthem should have come in the second half, though.) Anyway, while not being a *fan*, by any means, it is one of the very few 00s records that I actually listen to the whole thing every time I listen to it.

― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

somehow noone got around to nominating any strokes or outkast albums.
As I mentioned upthread (or maybe it was on the other one), this "randomness" in the nomination process is certainly the most glaring weakness in this poll.
(xposts)

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I somehow wonder if there might not have been 20 or so albums that Stevem could've thrown in as "automatic qualifiers" -- maybe, like, the top 5 P&J finishers from each year? And then we'd nominate the rest.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

'Music Sounds Better With You' is kind of annoying, mostly. Mind you, so is 'One More Time', but I like most of the rest of Discovery a whole lot more than Stardust.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

isn't there more electronics on kid A tho'? (I haven't heard either).

but ok, ilm was nearly there.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

rockist scientist why are you playing such a curmudgeon caricature on this thread? ease up.
Do you feel I'm usurping your persona?

-- Rockist_Scientist (phatw...), August 27th, 2004.

er, i don't recall posting 100 times to this or any other thread with variations on "i've never heard that one"/"i heard that one once in a friend's car, i didn't like it"/"i can't bring myself to care about this"/etc. i dunno, it reminds me a bit of ned's popping up on springsteen/strokes/etc. threasd to offer 1800 chipper variations on "meh."

― amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i think the "randomness" has turned out to be it's saving grace!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Weirdly I bought the Stardust record when it first appeared and didn't like it. In fact I've never much liked it. It's odd because I can see exactly what Dan's saying, for me they tweaked the formula in some indefinable way and went from pfft to perfection.

I totally disagree about the nominations process, lets have SOME room for quirk for fucks sake.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Jaymc, that sort of idea was bandied about on the nominations thread, but nobody showed much enthusiasm for it.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Spare us nominations for the 90s poll!!!!

― Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't even like Homework that much to be honest.

Do I have to hand in my Daft Club card now?

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

poor outkast and strokes now these overlooked classics will never achieve the critical recognition they deserve!!!

― artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

i own 35 of the records on the list. that's more than i thought i would have for some reason. i will go buy the rest of them tomorrow. and if it is kid a coming up next then make that 36.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

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